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Re: Jab's Animal Builds (Elephants! Mammoths!)

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Girl Genius has adorable mimmoths.

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So does Seton Gakuen

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Re: Jab's Animal Builds (Elephants! Mammoths!)

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Tiny Proboscidians

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TINY PROBOSCIDIANS
Role:
Fat Prey Species
PL 5 (31)- Minion Rank 3, Sidekick Rank 7
Normal Version:
PL 2-4
STRENGTH 5 STAMINA 6 AGILITY -1
FIGHTING 4 DEXTERITY 0
INTELLIGENCE -4 AWARENESS 0 PRESENCE -3

Skills:
Athletics 2 (+7) -- Flaws: Limited to Swimming
Expertise (Survival) 4 (+4)
Intimidation 7 (+6 Size)
Perception 2 (+2)

Advantages:
None

Powers:
"Animal Senses" Senses 2 (Acute & Extended Scent) [2]

"Natural Size" Growth 1 (Str & Sta +1, +1 Mass, +0 Intimidation, -0 Dodge/Parry, -1 Stealth) -- (8 feet) (Feats: Innate) (Extras: Permanent +0) [3]

Offense:
Unarmed +4 (+5 Damage, DC 20)
Initiative -1

Defenses:
Dodge +2 (DC 12), Parry +2 (DC 12), Toughness +6, Fortitude +6, Will +3

Complications:
Disabled (Animal)- Proboscidians cannot speak to humans, nor use their hooves to easily manipulate objects.
Rivalry (Other Males)- Like moost hoofed animals, these must compete with other males for mating rights.

Total: Abilities: 10 / Skills: 14--7 / Advantages: 0 / Powers: 6 / Defenses: 8 (31)

-Many of the ancient relatives of Elephants werer barely larger than a Tapir. Moeritherium is a small Proboscidian (only 580 lbs. or so) that died out millennia ago, and is thought to be an offshoot of the main line, not an ancestor of it. They have very small, tapir-like trunks and are hog/tapir-shaped. Palaeomastodon looks more Elephant-like with small trunks, but were similarly-sized.
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Pygmy Mammoths

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PYGMY MAMMOTHS
Role:
Micro-Elephants
PL 7 (43)- Minion Rank 3, Sidekick Rank 9
Normal Version:
PL 2-4
STRENGTH 7 STAMINA 8 AGILITY -1
FIGHTING 6 DEXTERITY 0
INTELLIGENCE -4 AWARENESS 0 PRESENCE -3

Skills:
Athletics 2 (+7) -- Flaws: Limited to Swimming
Expertise (Survival) 4 (+4)
Intimidation 7 (+5 Size)
Perception 2 (+2)

Advantages:
None

Powers:
"Animal Senses" Senses 2 (Acute & Extended Scent) [2]

"Natural Size" Growth 3 (Str & Sta +3, +3 Mass, +1 Intimidation, -1 Dodge/Parry, -3 Stealth) -- (12 feet) (Feats: Innate) (Extras: Permanent +0) [7]

Offense:
Unarmed +6 (+7 Damage, DC 22)
Initiative -1

Defenses:
Dodge +3 (DC 13), Parry +5 (DC 15), Toughness +8, Fortitude +8, Will +3

Complications:
Disabled (Animal)- Proboscidians cannot speak to humans, nor use their hooves to easily manipulate objects.
Rivalry (Other Males)- Like moost hoofed animals, these must compete with other males for mating rights.

Total: Abilities: 14 / Skills: 14--7 / Advantages: 0 / Powers: 10 / Defenses: 12 (43)

-Many types of Proboscidians were subject to "Island Dwarfism", where populations end up on smaller portions of land, and smaller animals are more likely to survive, because they can get by on less food, and reach adult size more quickly. This can happen in only a handful of generations by the standards of evolution, and kind of explains why evolution works the way it does- it can be much quicker than you'd think. There are suggestions that many such Mammoths ended up on small islands by SWIMMING there, which is funny to think about. Also, quite amazingly, there is evidence that these isolated populations survived for centuries longer than their contemporaries, with some believed to have lived until the time the PYRAMIDS were built!

-Pygmy Mammoths are scaled-up, PL 7 versions of smaller creatures, hitting PL 6.5 overall.
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Re: Jab's Animal Builds (Mammoths! Mastodon! Tiny Elephants!)

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So yeah, I'm kind of all over the place with these guys, lol- I should have posted the Pygmy Mammoth after the other Mammoths but forgot I made one, and then I posted the Small before the Tiny. An editor's nightmare!
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Proboscidians (Mid-Sized)

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MID-SIZED PROBOSCIDIANS
Role:
Ancient Elephant Relatives
PL 9 (73)- Minion Rank 5, Sidekick Rank 15
Normal Version:
PL 8
STRENGTH 8 STAMINA 9 AGILITY -1
FIGHTING 4 DEXTERITY 0
INTELLIGENCE -3 AWARENESS 2 PRESENCE -3

Skills:
Close Combat (Unarmed) 4 (+8)
Expertise (Survival) 6 (+8)
Insight 1 (+2)
Intimidation 12 (+9, +11 Size)
Perception 5 (+7)

Advantages:
All-Out Attack, Diehard, Extraordinary Effort, Fast Grab, Fearless, Improved Critical (Unarmed), Improved Grab, Startle, Takedown

Powers:
"Animal Senses" Senses 3 (Acute & Extended Scent, Extended Hearing) [3]
"Tremor-Detecting Feet" Senses 4 (Accurate Ranged x2 Touch) (Flaws: Limited to Half-Effect) [2]
"Trunk" Extra Limbs 1 [1]

"Natural Size" Growth 5 (Str & Sta +5, +5 Mass, +2 Intimidation, -2 Dodge/Parry, -5 Stealth) -- (18 feet) (Feats: Innate) (Extras: Permanent +0) [11]
Strength-Damage +1 (Feats: Reach) [2]
"Thick Layer of Skin" Protection 1 (Extras: Impervious 5) [6]

Offense:
Unarmed +8 (+9 Damage, DC 25)
Initiative -1

Defenses:
Dodge +3 (DC 13), Parry +6 (DC 16), Toughness +10 (+3 Impervious), Fortitude +11, Will +6

Complications:
Disabled (Animal)- Proboscidians cannot speak to humans, nor use their feet to easily manipulate objects. Their trunks can, however, but not to the extent of human hands.
Rivalry (Other Males)- Proboscidian Bulls must duel other males for mating rights.
Weakness (Poor Vision)- Proboscidians have poor eyesight, and often miss things unless directly in front of them, and close by.
Temper- Proboscidians are notoriously ornery (especially males). Some are prone to sudden charges, however most are "bluffs".

Total: Abilities: 12 / Skills: 28--14 / Advantages: 9 / Powers: 25 / Defenses: 18 (73)

-This build represents a chunk of elephant-relatives, most of whom were around this big. There's Stegomastodon & Notiomastodon (from South America) and Cuvieronius (among the first ancient elephants studied- initially, Spaniards and natives alike had imagined these bones to be those of giant humans). Prodeinotherium, a smaller version of the huge Deinotherium, is known from specimens all over Eurasia, and was about Asian Elephant-sized.
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Amebelodon

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SHOVEL-TUSKER (Amebelodon)
Role:
Ancient Elephant Relatives, Iconic Ancient Animal
PL 9 (73)- Minion Rank 5, Sidekick Rank 15
Normal Version:
PL 8
STRENGTH 8 STAMINA 9 AGILITY -1
FIGHTING 4 DEXTERITY 0
INTELLIGENCE -3 AWARENESS 2 PRESENCE -3

Skills:
Close Combat (Unarmed) 4 (+8)
Expertise (Survival) 6 (+8)
Insight 1 (+2)
Intimidation 12 (+9, +11 Size)
Perception 5 (+7)

Advantages:
All-Out Attack, Diehard, Extraordinary Effort, Fast Grab, Fearless, Improved Critical (Unarmed), Improved Grab, Startle, Takedown

Powers:
"Animal Senses" Senses 3 (Acute & Extended Scent, Extended Hearing) [3]
"Tremor-Detecting Feet" Senses 4 (Accurate Ranged x2 Touch) (Flaws: Limited to Half-Effect) [2]
"Trunk" Extra Limbs 1 [1]

"Natural Size" Growth 5 (Str & Sta +5, +5 Mass, +2 Intimidation, -2 Dodge/Parry, -5 Stealth) -- (18 feet) (Feats: Innate) (Extras: Permanent +0) [11]
Strength-Damage +1 (Feats: Reach) [2]
"Thick Layer of Skin" Protection 1 (Extras: Impervious 5) [6]

Offense:
Unarmed +8 (+9 Damage, DC 25)
Initiative -1

Defenses:
Dodge +3 (DC 13), Parry +6 (DC 16), Toughness +10 (+3 Impervious), Fortitude +11, Will +6

Complications:
Disabled (Animal)- Proboscidians cannot speak to humans, nor use their feet to easily manipulate objects. Their trunks can, however, but not to the extent of human hands.
Rivalry (Other Males)- Proboscidian Bulls must duel other males for mating rights.
Weakness (Poor Vision)- Proboscidians have poor eyesight, and often miss things unless directly in front of them, and close by.
Temper- Proboscidians are notoriously ornery (especially males). Some are prone to sudden charges, however most are "bluffs".

Total: Abilities: 12 / Skills: 28--14 / Advantages: 9 / Powers: 25 / Defenses: 18 (73)

-Amebelodons are the iconic "Shovel-Tuskers", ancient Proboscidians known for their gigantic, flat, cudgel-shaped lower tusks, which were probably used for multiple purposes- wear on them indicates they were used for shoveling up plants, scraping bark from trees, and more. Their upper tusks are similar to Elephants, but much shorter. Their trunks are little-known, but were probably similar to modern Elephants- there's little evidence for the shorter trunk most artists give them. Most hailed from around modern North America.

-Amebelodons are 5-ish tons, so I made them similar to the Asian Elephant.
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Re: Jab's Animal Builds (Mammoths! Mastodon! Tiny Elephants!)

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[A]mong the first ancient elephants studied- initially, Spaniards and natives alike had imagined these bones to be those of giant humans[.]
The general consensus amongst academics is that fossil skulls of Pleistocene dwarf elephants, commonly found in coastal caves of Greece, are the most likely origin of the cyclops stories.

Frankly, when looking at an elephant skull, I can totally believe that it belongs to some monstrous humanoid and not a giant quadruped with a snake for a nose... and unlike the pre-historic Greeks, I know that elephants exist! I mean, look at the thing:

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Gomphotherium

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GOMPHOTHERIUM
Role:
Short & Ancient Elephants
PL 8 (79)- Minion Rank 6, Sidekick Rank 17
Normal Version:
PL 8
STRENGTH 7 STAMINA 9 AGILITY -2
FIGHTING 4 DEXTERITY 0
INTELLIGENCE -3 AWARENESS 1 PRESENCE -3

Skills:
Close Combat (Unarmed) 3 (+7)
Expertise (Survival) 6 (+7)
Insight 1 (+2)
Intimidation 11 (+8, +10 Size)
Perception 5 (+6)

Advantages:
All-Out Attack, Diehard, Extraordinary Effort, Fast Grab, Fearless, Improved Critical (Unarmed) 2, Improved Grab, Last Stand, Startle, Takedown, Withstand Damage (Trade Defenses For Toughness)

Powers:
"Animal Senses" Senses 3 (Acute & Extended Scent, Extended Hearing) [3]
"Tremor-Detecting Feet" Senses 4 (Accurate Ranged x2 Touch) (Flaws: Limited to Half-Perception) [2]
"Trunk" Extra Limbs 1 [1]

"Natural Size" Growth 4 (Str & Sta +4, +4 Mass, +2 Intimidation, -2 Dodge/Parry, -4 Stealth) -- (15 feet) (Feats: Innate) (Extras: Permanent +0) [9]
Strength-Damage +2 (Feats: Reach 2) [4]
"Thick Layer of Skin" Protection 1 (Extras: Impervious 7) [8]

Offense:
Unarmed +7 (+9 Damage, DC 24)
Initiative -2

Defenses:
Dodge +2 (DC 12), Parry +6 (DC 16), Toughness +10 (+4 Impervious), Fortitude +11, Will +6

Complications:
Disabled (Animal)- Proboscidians cannot speak to humans, nor use their feet to easily manipulate objects. Their trunks can, however, but not to the extent of human hands.
Rivalry (Other Males)- Proboscidian Bulls must duel other males for mating rights.
Weakness (Poor Vision)- Proboscidians have poor eyesight, and often miss things unless directly in front of them, and close by.
Temper- Proboscidians are notoriously ornery (especially males). Most are prone to sudden charges, however most are "bluffs".

Total: Abilities: 10 / Skills: 26--13 / Advantages: 12 / Powers: 27 / Defenses: 17 (79)

-Ancient relatives of modern Elephants, Gomphotheres hailed from Eurasia and the Americas. They looked primitive by Elephant standards, being shorter and sporting four squat tusks, two on the upper jaw and two on the lower. Unlike modern elephants, the upper tusks were covered by enamel. The longer skull indicates that the nose may have been shorter, like a Tapir's, and the animals probably lived near swamps.

-Gomphotheres were about 8 feet tall and 5 tons, similar to African Forest Elephants.
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Deinotherium

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DEINOTHERIUM ("Terrible Beast")
Role:
Giant Extinct Animal, Elephant Relative
PL 10 (85)- Minion Rank 6, Sidekick Rank 17
Normal Version:
PL 8
STRENGTH 8 STAMINA 11 AGILITY -2
FIGHTING 4 DEXTERITY 0
INTELLIGENCE -3 AWARENESS 1 PRESENCE -3

Skills:
Close Combat (Unarmed) 4 (+8)
Expertise (Survival) 6 (+7)
Insight 1 (+2)
Intimidation 12 (+9, +11 Size)
Perception 5 (+6)

Advantages:
All-Out Attack, Diehard, Extraordinary Effort, Fast Grab, Fearless, Improved Critical (Unarmed) 2, Improved Grab, Last Stand, Startle, Takedown, Withstand Damage (Trade Defenses For Toughness)

Powers:
"Animal Senses" Senses 3 (Acute & Extended Scent, Extended Hearing) [3]
"Tremor-Detecting Feet" Senses 4 (Accurate Ranged x2 Touch) (Flaws: Limited to Half-Perception) [2]
"Trunk" Extra Limbs 1 [1]

"Natural Size" Growth 5 (Str & Sta +5, +5 Mass, +2 Intimidation, -2 Dodge/Parry, -5 Stealth) -- (18 feet) (Feats: Innate) (Extras: Permanent +0) [11]
Strength-Damage +3 (Feats: Reach 2) [5]
"Thick Layer of Skin" Protection 1 (Extras: Impervious 7) [8]

Offense:
Unarmed +8 (+11 Damage, DC 26)
Initiative -2

Defenses:
Dodge +2 (DC 12), Parry +6 (DC 16), Toughness +12 (+4 Impervious), Fortitude +13, Will +6

Complications:
Disabled (Animal)- Proboscidians cannot speak to humans, nor use their feet to easily manipulate objects. Their trunks can, however, but not to the extent of human hands.
Rivalry (Other Males)- Proboscidian Bulls must duel other males for mating rights.
Weakness (Poor Vision)- Proboscidians have poor eyesight, and often miss things unless directly in front of them, and close by.
Temper- Proboscidians are notoriously ornery (especially males). Most are prone to sudden charges, however most are "bluffs".

Total: Abilities: 12 / Skills: 28--14 / Advantages: 12 / Powers: 31 / Defenses: 17 (85)

-Deinotheriums are Elephant relatives with shorter trunks and smaller, curved tusks only on the lower jaw, pointing downwards. The purpose for these is unknown- it could be for shoveling, stripping bark, or pulling down branches. Even larger than African Elephants, these are true giants- one male was 13 feet tall, and 14 tons. Truly, they earn the name "Terrible Beast".
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Stegotetrabelodon

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STEGOTETRABELODON
Role:
Giant Animal, Supreme Mount
PL 9 (82)- Minion Rank 6, Sidekick Rank 17
Normal Version:
PL 8
STRENGTH 8 STAMINA 10 AGILITY -2
FIGHTING 4 DEXTERITY 0
INTELLIGENCE -3 AWARENESS 1 PRESENCE -3

Skills:
Close Combat (Unarmed) 4 (+8)
Expertise (Survival) 6 (+7)
Insight 1 (+2)
Intimidation 12 (+9, +11 Size)
Perception 5 (+6)

Advantages:
All-Out Attack, Diehard, Extraordinary Effort, Fast Grab, Fearless, Improved Critical (Unarmed) 2, Improved Grab, Last Stand, Startle, Takedown, Withstand Damage (Trade Defenses For Toughness)

Powers:
"Animal Senses" Senses 3 (Acute & Extended Scent, Extended Hearing) [3]
"Tremor-Detecting Feet" Senses 4 (Accurate Ranged x2 Touch) (Flaws: Limited to Half-Perception) [2]
"Trunk" Extra Limbs 1 [1]

"Natural Size" Growth 5 (Str & Sta +5, +5 Mass, +2 Intimidation, -2 Dodge/Parry, -5 Stealth) -- (18 feet) (Feats: Innate) (Extras: Permanent +0) [11]
Strength-Damage +2 (Feats: Reach 2) [4]
"Thick Layer of Skin" Protection 1 (Extras: Impervious 7) [8]

Offense:
Unarmed +8 (+10 Damage, DC 25)
Initiative -2

Defenses:
Dodge +2 (DC 12), Parry +6 (DC 16), Toughness +11 (+4 Impervious), Fortitude +12, Will +6

Complications:
Disabled (Animal)- Proboscidians cannot speak to humans, nor use their feet to easily manipulate objects. Their trunks can, however, but not to the extent of human hands.
Rivalry (Other Males)- Proboscidian Bulls must duel other males for mating rights.
Weakness (Poor Vision)- Proboscidians have poor eyesight, and often miss things unless directly in front of them, and close by.
Temper- Proboscidians are notoriously ornery (especially males). Most are prone to sudden charges, however most are "bluffs".

Total: Abilities: 10 / Skills: 28--14 / Advantages: 12 / Powers: 29 / Defenses: 17 (82)

-They gave a pretty awful name to one of the most spectacular Proboscidians- a FOUR-TUSKED MEGA-ELEPHANT. Stegotetrabelodon had four huge, straight tusks, two on top and two below. As Davies notes, they were an inspiration for the Mumakil from the Lord of the Rings trilogy, though those are of course even bigger. They're about the size of African Elephants- 13 feet tall and 12-14 tons.
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Re: Jab's Animal Builds (Shovel Tuskers! Deinotherium!)

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These are the ones that the Lord of the Rings films used as a basis their take on the Mumakil.
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Re: Jab's Animal Builds (Shovel Tuskers! Deinotherium!)

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Davies wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 5:42 am These are the ones that the Lord of the Rings films used as a basis their take on the Mumakil.
Ah, interesting. I figured there had to be some of that to it, because I was like "Oh yeah, that's pretty close, isn't it?".
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Stegodon

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STEGODON
Role:
Giant Animal, Supreme Mount
PL 9 (82)- Minion Rank 6, Sidekick Rank 17
Normal Version:
PL 8
STRENGTH 8 STAMINA 10 AGILITY -2
FIGHTING 4 DEXTERITY 0
INTELLIGENCE -3 AWARENESS 1 PRESENCE -3

Skills:
Close Combat (Unarmed) 4 (+8)
Expertise (Survival) 6 (+7)
Insight 1 (+2)
Intimidation 12 (+9, +11 Size)
Perception 5 (+6)

Advantages:
All-Out Attack, Diehard, Extraordinary Effort, Fast Grab, Fearless, Improved Critical (Unarmed) 2, Improved Grab, Last Stand, Startle, Takedown, Withstand Damage (Trade Defenses For Toughness)

Powers:
"Animal Senses" Senses 3 (Acute & Extended Scent, Extended Hearing) [3]
"Tremor-Detecting Feet" Senses 4 (Accurate Ranged x2 Touch) (Flaws: Limited to Half-Perception) [2]
"Trunk" Extra Limbs 1 [1]

"Natural Size" Growth 5 (Str & Sta +5, +5 Mass, +2 Intimidation, -2 Dodge/Parry, -5 Stealth) -- (18 feet) (Feats: Innate) (Extras: Permanent +0) [11]
Strength-Damage +2 (Feats: Reach 2) [4]
"Thick Layer of Skin" Protection 1 (Extras: Impervious 7) [8]

Offense:
Unarmed +8 (+10 Damage, DC 25)
Initiative -2

Defenses:
Dodge +2 (DC 12), Parry +6 (DC 16), Toughness +11 (+4 Impervious), Fortitude +12, Will +6

Complications:
Disabled (Animal)- Proboscidians cannot speak to humans, nor use their feet to easily manipulate objects. Their trunks can, however, but not to the extent of human hands.
Rivalry (Other Males)- Proboscidian Bulls must duel other males for mating rights.
Weakness (Poor Vision)- Proboscidians have poor eyesight, and often miss things unless directly in front of them, and close by.
Temper- Proboscidians are notoriously ornery (especially males). Most are prone to sudden charges, however most are "bluffs".

Total: Abilities: 10 / Skills: 28--14 / Advantages: 12 / Powers: 29 / Defenses: 17 (82)

-Stegodon was one of the largest Proboscidians, and was once very common throughout Asia, even moreso than the modern Asian Elephant. There is some evidence to suggest that they died out only 4,000 or so years ago, and were more robust than modern elephants.

-Stegodons match the power of the African Elephant, being 12 feet tall and about 12-14 tons.
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