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The MANLIEST of Men Fight:Li-Shang vs.Gaston

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 7:53 pm
by MacynSnow
Remember,this isn't about which MOVIE is better.This is about who'd win if these 2 'Manliest of Men' fight each other,using ONLY what they had available to them from their respective movies and their given abilities.

Thatall being said,i'd have to go with Gaston winning due to cunning.As good as Shang IS,he almost loses a third of his force due to The Warlord's Ambush...

Re: The MANLIEST of Men Fight:Li-Shang vs.Gaston

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 8:43 pm
by Ares
Gaston's cunning is more along the lines of manipulating scared townspeople and figuring out that if he puts pressure on a girls father, the girl might do what he says (incidentally, making more of a beast than the Beast was at the start). Beyond that, Gaston didn't really display anything in the way of combat tactics, as his big fight scene involved him beating up someone who refused to fight back, and then getting thrashed the second they did. Interestingly enough, despite ostensibly being some Ranger / Fighter hybrid, he fights and acts more like a D&D Rogue, using manipulation and literal backstabbing to win.

And as I've said before, Gaston is basically a medium sized fish in a small pond. He's a skilled hunter and in great shape, but he's got no real mind for strategy and at best he's a tavern brawler against a bunch of untrained villagers.

Li-Shang, conversely, is an actual military commander and leader, a trained fighter and martial artist that not only knows how to fight, but how to turn other people into fighters. And unlike Gaston, Li has gotten into actual fights with people who want to kill him.

I'd say the only way Gaston wins is if Li makes a really big mistake or if he gets his gun, which Li doesn't really have any defense against. Deflecting thrown rocks and deflecting/dodging bullets are two different things.

Re: The MANLIEST of Men Fight:Li-Shang vs.Gaston

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2018 8:52 am
by catsi563
Don't usually get into these if I can avoid it but Im with Ares for all the reasons he stated.

Gaston is highly charismatic and looks pretty as such things go and I imagine could give a bunch of tavern brawlers a whuppin but Shang is a full on Soldier and a trained warrior most likely since birth given his family line of employment.

Gaston is also exposed as a coward pretty quickly by the Beasts counter attack, Gaston might get the drop on Shang and surprise him but once Shang started fighting back in Ernst Gaston would quickly fall or cry for mercy.

Re: The MANLIEST of Men Fight:Li-Shang vs.Gaston

Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2018 4:59 am
by MacynSnow
I'd still pull for Gaston over Shang.Alot of people tend to forget that Gaston served as an Officer in the ( i'm assuming French due to the Architecture of the area,but it was probably German ) Army and was actually rather good at it,given the Reputation he had with the soldiers.True,he's got NO CHANCE in a straight-up fight with Li,who just had better combat teachers.It's like that old argument in D&D:Who'd win in a fight between an exact level Fighter/Ranger and a Fighter/Monk....If Gaston can catch him somhow unawares(and believe me,Gaston is second-to-none when it comes to setting Ambushes),he wins every fight.But by that same token,if Shang can "Weather the Storm",then he'll win.I'm just saying that Gaston might not even give the man a chance in this...