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Re: Jab's Builds! (Chucky! Jason! Ghostface! Ash Williams!)
Aaaaah Pinhead. My favorite character out of this whole lot, and second favorite film out of the bunch next to Halloween. I loved how the initial Hellraiser movies had more of a "gothic romance" aspect to them than just strict horror, and that thus informed the plot a bit more than your typical horror flicks. Also, Christopher Young's score! Mmmmmmmm, you could dance to that stuff in a macabre ballroom of the dead.
Also helps that Pinhead has some killer lines, though I generally preferred his more stoic, no-nonsense persona in the first Hellraiser over the large-ham mustache twirler or moral punisher we got later. That said, I always liked his brief monologue to the twins in "Bloodlines" the best out of all his quotes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQ__LyhyNoA
"I. AM. PAIN."
So badass.
Also helps that Pinhead has some killer lines, though I generally preferred his more stoic, no-nonsense persona in the first Hellraiser over the large-ham mustache twirler or moral punisher we got later. That said, I always liked his brief monologue to the twins in "Bloodlines" the best out of all his quotes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQ__LyhyNoA
"I. AM. PAIN."
So badass.
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Re: Jab's Builds! (Chucky! Jason! Ghostface! Ash Williams! Pinhead!)
haha, anyone check out the new DuckTales show? Pretty fun. Of course, nailing the "tougher than the toughies, and smarter than the smarties" line pretty much makes it a "plus" regardless. But the best part is probably Scrooge going "You kid are nothing but TROUBLE!" before sighing happily, going "have I MISSED trouble". The adventure is more tongue-in-cheek, quick and less "epic" than the original series (which was MUCH more "life or death"), but I'm digging the personalities of the kids (Webby is your "typical insane little girl" character- basically Mabel from Gravity Falls, like EVERY girl character tends to be these days; the green one is sarcastic and the most immoral; etc.).
But WOW- I can barely understand Donald. I mean, that's kind of his point, but it's really unintelligible. Probably because he has to talk at a normal cadence, like other modern cartoon characters- the old Donald was either a slow talker or going completely psychotic.
But WOW- I can barely understand Donald. I mean, that's kind of his point, but it's really unintelligible. Probably because he has to talk at a normal cadence, like other modern cartoon characters- the old Donald was either a slow talker or going completely psychotic.
Re: Jab's Builds! (Chucky! Jason! Ghostface! Ash Williams! Pinhead!)
Hellraiser is one of my old favorites. Some of that comes as favoring concept over actual execution.- great ideas just pulled off poorly. Yeah, Doug Bradley has an incredibly cool English wit, but so many other things around that just feel a bit lackluster. The second movie is actually my favorite with the depictions of the franchise's hell. It ranks up there with the Cell and Event Horizon as my favorite 'pretty movies that need a better plot'. Bloodline is interesting in a similar way, looking back into the history of the Lament Configuration before they decide to go.. to space and beyond *choke*.
Jack- did you ever get into the McFarlane toys Tortured Souls series? I was happily surprised to find that the short stories were expanded and made into a novel some time later.
Jack- did you ever get into the McFarlane toys Tortured Souls series? I was happily surprised to find that the short stories were expanded and made into a novel some time later.
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Re: Jab's Builds! (Chucky! Jason! Ghostface! Ash Williams! Pinhead!)
It's nice that they got an actual Scottish person to voice Scrooge this time.Jabroniville wrote: ↑Sat Aug 12, 2017 11:43 am haha, anyone check out the new DuckTales show? Pretty fun. Of course, nailing the "tougher than the toughies, and smarter than the smarties" line pretty much makes it a "plus" regardless. But the best part is probably Scrooge going "You kid are nothing but TROUBLE!" before sighing happily, going "have I MISSED trouble". The adventure is more tongue-in-cheek, quick and less "epic" than the original series (which was MUCH more "life or death"), but I'm digging the personalities of the kids (Webby is your "typical insane little girl" character- basically Mabel from Gravity Falls, like EVERY girl character tends to be these days; the green one is sarcastic and the most immoral; etc.).
But WOW- I can barely understand Donald. I mean, that's kind of his point, but it's really unintelligible. Probably because he has to talk at a normal cadence, like other modern cartoon characters- the old Donald was either a slow talker or going completely psychotic.
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Yeah, but the '80s Scrooge was still awesome. I assume actual Scottish folk can tell the difference with "Mock Scottish", but the rest of us really can't .
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Herbert West
HERBERT WEST- Terrordrome Version
Role: Unfortunate Doctor
Movie Series: The Re-Animator
PL 9 (107)
STRENGTH 2 STAMINA 3 AGILITY 4
FIGHTING 11 DEXTERITY 4
INTELLIGENCE 5 AWARENESS 1 PRESENCE 1
Skills:
Close Combat (Unarmed) 2 (+13)
Expertise (Science) 6 (+11)
Ranged Combat (Acid) 1 (+13)
Technology 1 (+6)
Advantages:
Equipment 2 (Bag of Tricks), Inventor, Ranged Attack 8
Murderous Fighting Style:
Accurate Attack (Weak), Daze (Intimidation), Extraordinary Effort (Unleashed), Fascination (Intimidation), Fast Grab, Improved Critical (Chosen Weapon) 2, Improved Hold, Improved Trip (Throw), Power Attack (Power), Startle, Withstand Damage (Block)
Equipment:
"Bag of Tricks"
"Dr. Dill's Head" Blast 5 (Reduced Defenses -2, Diminished Range -1, Inaccurate -1) (4)
"Defillibrator" Damage 4 (Extras: Multiattack) (Reduced Defenses -2) (4)
"Shovel" Strength-Damage +2 (Feats: Reach) (3)
"Acid Bottle" Blast 3 (Reduced Defenses -1, Diminished Range -2) (3)
"Grab and Choke" Strength-Damage +2 (Feats: +2 to Hit Foes Who Parried Last Round) (3)
Offense:
Unarmed +13 (+2 Damage, DC 17)
Defilibrator +11 (+4 Damage, DC 19)
Shovel +11 (+4 Damage, DC 19)
Acid Bottle +13 (+3 Ranged Damage, DC 18)
Dr. Dill's Head +10 (+5 Ranged Damage, DC 20)
Initiative +4
Defenses:
Dodge +14 (DC 24), Parry +15 (DC 25), Toughness +3, Fortitude +5, Will +4
Complications:
Responsibility (SCIENCE!)- West's goal is to find a way to properly resurrect the dead. He's come close a time or two, but never quite gotten it perfect. He is however completely convinced of his ability, nay, RIGHT to do so. He makes alliances but he will go to any distance to complete his work even murder...which he will show little to no remorse about. Very much an 'ends justify the means' kind of guy.
Weakness (Predictability)- These guys cannot simply "spam" out the same attack over and over again, as the opponent will expect the attacks, and be ready for them (and a counterattack). The third time he tries the same technique (or same combo of techniques) in a short span, they will be at -2 to Accuracy, AND to their Active Defenses in that round. All will decrease by 2 every successive round the same move is done.
Total: Abilities: 62 / Skills: 10--5 / Advantages: 11 + 10 / Powers: 0 / Defenses: 19 (107)
HERBERT WEST- Movie Version
Role: Unfortunate Doctor
Movie Series: The Re-Animator
PL 3 (50)
STRENGTH 1 STAMINA 2 AGILITY 1
FIGHTING 4 DEXTERITY 4
INTELLIGENCE 5 AWARENESS 1 PRESENCE 1
Skills:
Close Combat (Unarmed) 1 (+5)
Expertise (Science) 6 (+11)
Technology 1 (+6)
Advantages:
Inventor
Offense:
Unarmed +5 (+1 Damage, DC 16)
Initiative +1
Defenses:
Dodge +4 (DC 14), Parry +4 (DC 14), Toughness +2, Fortitude +3, Will +4
Complications:
Responsibility (SCIENCE!)- West's goal is to find a way to properly resurrect the dead. He's come close a time or two, but never quite gotten it perfect. He is however completely convinced of his ability, nay, RIGHT to do so. He makes alliances but he will go to any distance to complete his work even murder...which he will show little to no remorse about. Very much an 'ends justify the means' kind of guy.
Total: Abilities: 38 / Skills: 8--4 / Advantages: 1 / Powers: 0 / Defenses: 7 (50)
HalloweenJack's Notes:
-Dr. West, played by the awesome Jeffrey Combs, was actually a creation of HP Lovecraft for his story Herbert West, Re-Animator. Brian Yuzna, who's totally mental for all things Lovecraft, developed a modern horror adaptation of it in the 80s, and by all accounts everyone making it had a blast. So much so that two sequels would follow, Bride of Re-Animator by Yuzna and Beyond Re-Animator in the early 2000s by another director. Yuzna even sneaks references to Re-Animator into his other works. For example, that superhero/anime movie The Guyver, Yuzna threw in a doctor in there by the name of Herbert EAST...who was of course played by Jeffrey Combs.
-West is actually a small fry in the scheme of things. He's just an average guy, though he's very intelligent. I mean the guy has figured out a way to raise the dead after all. He doesn't quite get it right though as he doesn't so much resurrect anyone as he....reanimates them. They're just zombies with base instincts and some intelligence. Like his old professor.
-Terrordrome takes some liberties as he's able to summon some of the zombies to aid him, but canon-wise they're usually going to be against him. West has a lot in common with Peter Cushing's Baron Frankenstein. The same cold intellect, the same disdain for "small minds" and the unwavering ability to push his experiments to new levels (and get out of certain death by the skin of his teeth).
Jab's Notes: ... I got nothing. Except that I saw clips with Barbara Crampton where she looked fantastic. That's it. This is easily the shortest set of notes either HJ or I wrote .
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Re: Jab's Builds! (Chucky! Jason! Ghostface! Ash Williams! Pinhead!)
Trust me, it's grating when people get the accent wrong, and people get that accent wrong a lot. I've seen worse than the original Scrooge but...Jabroniville wrote: ↑Sat Aug 12, 2017 7:55 pm Yeah, but the '80s Scrooge was still awesome. I assume actual Scottish folk can tell the difference with "Mock Scottish", but the rest of us really can't .
One thing that did seem pretty appropriate though was the preview clip, given precisely which Scottish actor they got to play Scrooge.
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Okay..... Even though I'm innocent, I'll take one for the team.Jabroniville wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2017 8:32 pm
(hey, remember when I demanded MILF pics any time somebody went off about politics in the thread? We should start doing that again)
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Re: Jab's Builds! (The Tall Man! Leatherface! Michael Myers! Pumpkinhead!)
L-Space wrote: ↑Sat Aug 12, 2017 1:46 amYea beautiful Jason and the whole demons vs military battle scene was kind of...weird, but I will just chalk that up to being an Army of Darkness callback .HalloweenJack wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2017 9:38 pm I LOVED the first one. The second was kinda so so (long haired handsome Jason WTF) but I will say Freddy's daughter pushed my....er....buttons a bit.
Come to think of it there have been couple of other horror movie crossover comics too. There was a Leatherface vs Jason comic back in the 90's and then also Jason vs Jason X comic, which seemed a bit... masturbatory .
Leatherface vs Jason was okay....okay.....until the end and that killed it for me
Jason vs Jason X...I read that one recently and didn't care for it. But I still like the Friday the 13th one shot Avatar did and alot of the Wildstorm Friday the 13th stories
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Re: Jab's Builds! (Chucky! Jason! Ghostface! Ash Williams! Pinhead!)
I was interested in them and read up on them but never picked them up.Spectrum wrote: ↑Sat Aug 12, 2017 12:06 pm Hellraiser is one of my old favorites. Some of that comes as favoring concept over actual execution.- great ideas just pulled off poorly. Yeah, Doug Bradley has an incredibly cool English wit, but so many other things around that just feel a bit lackluster. The second movie is actually my favorite with the depictions of the franchise's hell. It ranks up there with the Cell and Event Horizon as my favorite 'pretty movies that need a better plot'. Bloodline is interesting in a similar way, looking back into the history of the Lament Configuration before they decide to go.. to space and beyond *choke*.
Jack- did you ever get into the McFarlane toys Tortured Souls series? I was happily surprised to find that the short stories were expanded and made into a novel some time later.
And that girlfriend I mentioned way back in the Texas Chainsaw notes? The one that was terrified of TCM and loved the Thing?
Well one Christmas, she got me three gifts. An Irish Claddagh ring (we both liked Buffy) and two action figures.....a Pinhead one and an Angelique one.
*sigh* sometimes you wonder how they got away ya know?
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Re: Herbert West
Jabroniville wrote: ↑Sat Aug 12, 2017 7:57 pm
HERBERT WEST- Terrordrome Version
Role: Unfortunate Doctor
Movie Series: The Re-Animator
PL 9 (107)
STRENGTH 2 STAMINA 3 AGILITY 4
FIGHTING 11 DEXTERITY 4
INTELLIGENCE 5 AWARENESS 1 PRESENCE 1
Skills:
Close Combat (Unarmed) 2 (+13)
Expertise (Science) 6 (+11)
Ranged Combat (Acid) 1 (+13)
Technology 1 (+6)
Advantages:
Equipment 2 (Bag of Tricks), Inventor, Ranged Attack 8
Murderous Fighting Style:
Accurate Attack (Weak), Daze (Intimidation), Extraordinary Effort (Unleashed), Fascination (Intimidation), Fast Grab, Improved Critical (Chosen Weapon) 2, Improved Hold, Improved Trip (Throw), Power Attack (Power), Startle, Withstand Damage (Block)
Equipment:
"Bag of Tricks"
"Dr. Dill's Head" Blast 5 (Reduced Defenses -2, Diminished Range -1, Inaccurate -1) (4)
"Defillibrator" Damage 4 (Extras: Multiattack) (Reduced Defenses -2) (4)
"Shovel" Strength-Damage +2 (Feats: Reach) (3)
"Acid Bottle" Blast 3 (Reduced Defenses -1, Diminished Range -2) (3)
"Grab and Choke" Strength-Damage +2 (Feats: +2 to Hit Foes Who Parried Last Round) (3)
Offense:
Unarmed +13 (+2 Damage, DC 17)
Defilibrator +11 (+4 Damage, DC 19)
Shovel +11 (+4 Damage, DC 19)
Acid Bottle +13 (+3 Ranged Damage, DC 18)
Dr. Dill's Head +10 (+5 Ranged Damage, DC 20)
Initiative +4
Defenses:
Dodge +14 (DC 24), Parry +15 (DC 25), Toughness +3, Fortitude +5, Will +4
Complications:
Responsibility (SCIENCE!)- West's goal is to find a way to properly resurrect the dead. He's come close a time or two, but never quite gotten it perfect. He is however completely convinced of his ability, nay, RIGHT to do so. He makes alliances but he will go to any distance to complete his work even murder...which he will show little to no remorse about. Very much an 'ends justify the means' kind of guy.
Weakness (Predictability)- These guys cannot simply "spam" out the same attack over and over again, as the opponent will expect the attacks, and be ready for them (and a counterattack). The third time he tries the same technique (or same combo of techniques) in a short span, they will be at -2 to Accuracy, AND to their Active Defenses in that round. All will decrease by 2 every successive round the same move is done.
Total: Abilities: 62 / Skills: 10--5 / Advantages: 11 + 10 / Powers: 0 / Defenses: 19 (107)
HERBERT WEST- Movie Version
Role: Unfortunate Doctor
Movie Series: The Re-Animator
PL 3 (50)
STRENGTH 1 STAMINA 2 AGILITY 1
FIGHTING 4 DEXTERITY 4
INTELLIGENCE 5 AWARENESS 1 PRESENCE 1
Skills:
Close Combat (Unarmed) 1 (+5)
Expertise (Science) 6 (+11)
Technology 1 (+6)
Advantages:
Inventor
Offense:
Unarmed +5 (+1 Damage, DC 16)
Initiative +1
Defenses:
Dodge +4 (DC 14), Parry +4 (DC 14), Toughness +2, Fortitude +3, Will +4
Complications:
Responsibility (SCIENCE!)- West's goal is to find a way to properly resurrect the dead. He's come close a time or two, but never quite gotten it perfect. He is however completely convinced of his ability, nay, RIGHT to do so. He makes alliances but he will go to any distance to complete his work even murder...which he will show little to no remorse about. Very much an 'ends justify the means' kind of guy.
Total: Abilities: 38 / Skills: 8--4 / Advantages: 1 / Powers: 0 / Defenses: 7 (50)
HalloweenJack's Notes:
-Dr. West, played by the awesome Jeffrey Combs, was actually a creation of HP Lovecraft for his story Herbert West, Re-Animator. Brian Yuzna, who's totally mental for all things Lovecraft, developed a modern horror adaptation of it in the 80s, and by all accounts everyone making it had a blast. So much so that two sequels would follow, Bride of Re-Animator by Yuzna and Beyond Re-Animator in the early 2000s by another director. Yuzna even sneaks references to Re-Animator into his other works. For example, that superhero/anime movie The Guyver, Yuzna threw in a doctor in there by the name of Herbert EAST...who was of course played by Jeffrey Combs.
-West is actually a small fry in the scheme of things. He's just an average guy, though he's very intelligent. I mean the guy has figured out a way to raise the dead after all. He doesn't quite get it right though as he doesn't so much resurrect anyone as he....reanimates them. They're just zombies with base instincts and some intelligence. Like his old professor.
-Terrordrome takes some liberties as he's able to summon some of the zombies to aid him, but canon-wise they're usually going to be against him. West has a lot in common with Peter Cushing's Baron Frankenstein. The same cold intellect, the same disdain for "small minds" and the unwavering ability to push his experiments to new levels (and get out of certain death by the skin of his teeth).
Jab's Notes: ... I got nothing. Except that I saw clips with Barbara Crampton where she looked fantastic. That's it. This is easily the shortest set of notes either HJ or I wrote .
think she looked good there? check out From Beyond sometime......
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Re: Jab's Builds! (Chucky! Jason! Ghostface! Ash Williams! Pinhead!)
Also, the character "Dr. West" from the Splatterhouse games (though he was unseen until the reboot) is named after Herbert West.
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Aaah, H.P. Lovecraft. Now that's a whole 'nother can of worms compared to this lot.
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Re: Jab's Builds! (Chucky! Jason! Ghostface! Ash Williams! Pinhead!)
All I'll say about Lovecraft for various reasons is that I think I built Cthulhu once back in 2E, though that side of things would probably fit more with whenever Jab gets around to reposting the kaiju builds.bsdigitalq wrote: ↑Sat Aug 12, 2017 10:10 pm Aaah, H.P. Lovecraft. Now that's a whole 'nother can of worms compared to this lot.
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Freddy Krueger
FREDDY KRUEGER- Terrordrome Version
Role: Child Killer, Smart-Ass
Movie Series: Nightmare on Elm Street
PL 9 (129)
STRENGTH 3 STAMINA 4 AGILITY 5
FIGHTING 11 DEXTERITY 4
INTELLIGENCE 0 AWARENESS 2 PRESENCE 3
Skills:
Athletics 8 (+11)
Close Combat (Claw) 2 (+13)
Expertise (Serial Killer) 8 (+8)
Insight 3 (+5)
Intimidation 9 (+12)
Perception 4 (+6)
Stealth 2 (+7)
Advantages:
Equipment 1 (Claw +2)
Murderous Fighting Style:
Accurate Attack (Weak), Daze (Intimidation), Extraordinary Effort (Unleashed), Fascination (Intimidation), Fast Grab, Improved Critical (Chosen Weapon) 2, Improved Hold, Improved Trip (Throw), Power Attack (Power), Startle, Withstand Damage (Block)
Powers:
"Grab & Drain Life" Damage 2 (Feats: +2 to Hit Foes Who Parried Last Turn) Linked to Healing 4 (11) -- [16]
- AE: "Long Arm" Strength-Damage +2 (Feats: Improved Critical, Reach 4) (7)
- AE: "Multi-Stab" Strength-Damage +2 (Extras: Multiattack 5) (Reduced Defenses -2) (3)
- AE: "Blade Uppercut" Strength-Damage +2 (Feats: Improved Critical, +2 to Hit Jumping Opponents) (4)
- AE: "Grab & Stab" Strength-Damage +2 (Feats: +2 to Hit Foes Who Parried Last Turn) (3)
- AE: Teleport 2 (Feats: Change Direction) (Extras: Easy) (7)
Offense:
Unarmed +11 (+3 Damage, DC 18)
Claw +13 (+5 Damage, DC 20)
Special Moves +11 (+7 Damage, DC 22)
Initiative +5
Defenses:
Dodge +13 (DC 23), Parry +14 (DC 24), Toughness +4, Fortitude +6, Will +8
Complications:
Vulnerable (Get a Hold of Yourself!): If you're holding onto Freddy and you wake up, he gets dragged along for the ride. In the real world, Freddy's still no pushover. He can still take damage like a champ (Jason tore one of his arms off and while it hurt like a mother, he kept fighting) and has a few minor powers like wall-crawling. Worst part is if you kill him in the real world, he'll just go back to the Dream World
Vulnerable (Fear Is A Four-Letter Word): Freddy's biggest weakness though is that he needs fear to keep coming back to terrorize your dreams. The residents of Springwood once attempted to black out every single record of Freddy's existence. They didn't even mention his name, and the people who did have encounters with him they just shipped off to a mental institution. This left Freddy in a really bad way....he couldn't hurt anyone in their dreams or even appear in them. He needed fear to get his power back. So he recruited a big hockey masked galoot......
Enemy (That %%^ing Jason!): Freddy hates Jason. HATES. Once he got Jason going, carving up the residents of Springwood to fuel his fire, he couldn't turn the darned guy off. When Freddy was about to off a girl in her dreams, she suddenly died blood spurting out over Freddy's face all because Jason killed her in the real world. That would not stand!
Enemy (The Dream Warriors)- Some kids managed to kill Freddy in one movie, but he came back and kill them all. A trainee of the one killed him in the next movie, however.
Motivation (Sooooooooooul Train!): Freddy is fueled by fear, but he feeds on souls. The more souls he eats the more powerful he becomes.
Enemy ("Women....Can't Live With 'Em ....Can't ButcheHEEEEEEY!"): Freddy likes the ladies (often referring to victims as his 'new girlfriend') but there are a few women he hates with a passion. Final girl Nancy Thompson who helped thwart him twice. His daughter Maggie likewise undid his plans. And then there's his mother Amanda, who's holy spirit was a persistent foe to her bastard son.
Weakness (Predictability)- These guys cannot simply "spam" out the same attack over and over again, as the opponent will expect the attacks, and be ready for them (and a counterattack). The third time he tries the same technique (or same combo of techniques) in a short span, they will be at -2 to Accuracy, AND to their Active Defenses in that round. All will decrease by 2 every successive round the same move is done.
Total: Abilities: 64 / Skills: 36--18 / Advantages: 1 + 10 / Powers: 17 / Defenses: 19 (129)
FREDDY KRUEGER- Movie Version
Role: Child Killer, Smart-Ass
Movie Series: Nightmare on Elm Street
PL 7-10 (179)
STRENGTH 3 STAMINA 4 AGILITY 5
FIGHTING 9 DEXTERITY 4
INTELLIGENCE 0 AWARENESS 2 PRESENCE 3
Skills:
Athletics 8 (+11)
Expertise (Serial Killer) 8 (+8)
Insight 3 (+5)
Intimidation 9 (+12)
Perception 4 (+6)
Stealth 2 (+7)
Advantages:
Accurate Attack, Daze (Intimidation), Equipment (Claw), Fascination (Intimidation), Fast Grab, Improved Critical (Claws) 2, Improved Hold, Power Attack, Ranged Attack 6, Startle
Powers:
"Dream Warrior" Variable 10 (Flaws: Limited to Within Dream World) [60]
"Attack You In Your Dreams" Movement 1 (Dimensional Travel- Dream World) (Extras: Attack 8) [10]
Movement 1 (Wall-Crawling) [2]
Immortality 1 [2]
Offense:
Unarmed +9 (+3 Damage, DC 18)
Claw +9 (+5 Damage, DC 20)
Initiative +5
Defenses:
Dodge +9 (DC 19), Parry +9 (DC 19), Toughness +4, Fortitude +6, Will +8
Complications:
Vulnerable (Get a Hold of Yourself!): If you're holding onto Freddy and you wake up, he gets dragged along for the ride. In the real world, Freddy's still no pushover. He can still take damage like a champ (Jason tore one of his arms off and while it hurt like a mother, he kept fighting) and has a few minor powers like wall-crawling. Worst part is if you kill him in the real world, he'll just go back to the Dream World
Vulnerable (Fear Is A Four-Letter Word): Freddy's biggest weakness though is that he needs fear to keep coming back to terrorize your dreams. The residents of Springwood once attempted to black out every single record of Freddy's existence. They didn't even mention his name, and the people who did have encounters with him they just shipped off to a mental institution. This left Freddy in a really bad way....he couldn't hurt anyone in their dreams or even appear in them. He needed fear to get his power back. So he recruited a big hockey masked galoot......
Enemy (That %%^ing Jason!): Freddy hates Jason. HATES. Once he got Jason going, carving up the residents of Springwood to fuel his fire, he couldn't turn the darned guy off. When Freddy was about to off a girl in her dreams, she suddenly died blood spurting out over Freddy's face all because Jason killed her in the real world. That would not stand!
Enemy (The Dream Warriors)- Some kids managed to kill Freddy in one movie, but he came back and kill them all. A trainee of the one killed him in the next movie, however.
Motivation (Sooooooooooul Train!): Freddy is fueled by fear, but he feeds on souls. The more souls he eats the more powerful he becomes.
Enemy ("Women....Can't Live With 'Em ....Can't ButcheHEEEEEEY!"): Freddy likes the ladies (often referring to victims as his 'new girlfriend') but there are a few women he hates with a passion. Final girl Nancy Thompson who helped thwart him twice. His daughter Maggie likewise undid his plans. And then there's his mother Amanda, who's holy spirit was a persistent foe to her bastard son.
Total: Abilities: 60 / Skills: 34--17 / Advantages: 16 / Powers: 74 / Defenses: 12 (179)
HalloweenJack's Notes:
-Wes Craven loves dreams. Like, a lot. Most of his movies contain a dream sequence of some kind. So he leaped at the opportunity to make a horror movie about a killer who attacks in dreams. He says he got this from a newspaper story about a family of Cambodian refugees who had survived the Khmer Rouge. One of the children in the family was going to great lengths to stay awake claiming that if he went to sleep he'd die. Supposedly he did.
-So Craven had an idea for a movie, but it wasn't one any studio in town wanted to make. Until he went to a small independent movie distributor and put them on the map with his movie (that even they didn't really want to make). That company was New Line Cinema.
-As for the titular villain (who was originally going to be played by David Warner of all people!) Craven had a few ideas. He mish mashed a lot of different things together and came up with the character. Freddy's first name? Craven's old elementary school bully. His last name? A play on a character from Craven's Last House of the Left named Krug (and yes it did have a nightmare sequence). The red and green sweater? Apparently there were studies that said when the colors red and green are in an alternating pattern like on Freddy's sweater, that was the clash that made the human mind most uncomfortable. The bladed glove? Craven read that all humans have a subconscious fear of creatures with claws. And the hat? Well look the Shadow People phenomena associated with sleep disorder Hypnogognia.
-As for Freddy himself? He was born via rape. His mother was a nun who was accidentally left in with a group of 100 mentally disturbed patients in an asylum over a holiday weekend... HOW DOES THAT WORK?! Growing up Freddy clearly has both sadistic and masochistic tendencies. He also had....other issues.
-Freddy was a child murderer....and it's also insinuated he did...other...things. To kids. The funniest thing is that some fans will argue “Nuh uh! He just killed them!”. Freddy was eventually caught and put on trial for what he had been doing but in a massive blunder (like are you shitting me?!) Freddy was released due to the fact that the proper search and seizure warrants hadn't been signed. Freddy got off scot free.
-For a few hours, before the parents of Springwood came for him, and Molotov cocktailed his ass in the very boiler room he'd take his victims too. Unfortunately for everyone Freddy's appetites had attracted the attention of a trio of demons that inhabited dreams. They cut him a deal. They'd empower him so long as he kept up the bad work. Which he did.
-Freddy is flat out one of the more powerful characters to be statted up here. In the Dream World, he can do just about anything he wants. Shapeshift (both himself and you!), change his size, use your fears against you, just about anything. And if you die in the Dream World, you die in the real world. He's not infallible. He can be hurt, but what's that when you can just overcome it at a whim? One of the more disturbing kills he had was when Freddy was on the losing end of a fight with a girl. He backed up and then smiled, having found her fear: the girl was a heroin addict and he simply turned his fingers into syringes filled with the stuff....and make the tract marks on her arms start to open and close like dozens of little mouths! He quipped (which he does...alot) “Oh...what a rush!”. You're welcome L.O.D.
-The bad part is that when you do manage to kill Freddy, usually via esoteric means, he just ends up getting resurrected by his demon masters.
Jab's Notes: I've seen a couple of these! I saw the first one (pretty dull, but works as a psychological thriller... it feels odd to barely hear any "Freddy Quips") and the Dream Warrior one- I found it kind of... I dunno, "endless"? That this movie began with Freddy kill the entire cast of the previous movie. Like you can kill him... but he's just gonna come back and kill you anyways? Then WHAT'S THE POINT, you know? In any case, Freddy was HUGE with my best friend in High School, and he was obsessed with the quips. He had a Freddy mask and a claw, and loved to quote Freddy's lines. Our Fictional Wrestling Federations included a guy named "Freddy Krueger" who later went by his real name (I forget what it was).
-The Nightmare movies were okay, but I prefered the Friday the 13th ones... not because of the nudity, though! ... okay, it was because the Jason flicks had more nudity. Shut up.
-Freddy, like Pinhead, is MUCH more powerful within the context of his own universe. He's not that great a fighter outside of Dream World (the standard "Way to Kill Freddy" is to wake up while holding onto him, then killing him in the real world... it was usually borderline non-combatants that did so, too!), but within it, he can essentially do anything he wants.
-He stats up pretty well against the other monsters, but watch Freddy (vs) Jason to see the difference in Power Levels... in Dream World, Jason is a helpless, drowning infant. When he wakes up, though... he gives Freddy the shitkicking of ten lifetimes, dragging him from one end of a cabin to the other, demolishing the surrounding area, and showing you what happens when a PL 8 Powerhouse fights a scrappier PL 7.