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Re: Jab's Builds! (Mayan, Hindu, Polynesian & Celtic Gods! Leir!)

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For an example of Egyptian myths retold, try this Overly Sarcastic Production.
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Jabroniville wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2017 4:31 amTHOTH: The distinctive Thoth has the head of an ibis (sometimes a baboon), and is a God of Wisdom, Arbitration, Magic, Writing and Science.
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Khonshu

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KHONSHU:
First Appearance:
Moon Knight #1 (Nov. 1980)

Khonshu in Mythology: Khonshu is the son of Amun, and a God of the Moon. He was often depicted as a youth, and sometimes had a hawk's head.


-Khonshu is central to the character of Moon Knight, but never really does things that can be statted up. He resurrects Marc Spector to be an agent for justice, and is generally benevolent... but as Marc grows crazier and crazier, Khonshu turns into a bit of an antagonist- insulting Marc, berating his capabilities and more. He doesn't interact with other characters very much, but at one point appeared before a psychiatrist who was attempting to declare Spector insane, and both got the verdict he wanted, and converted the man to worshipping him.
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Horus

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HORUS
Created By:
Bill Mantlo, Roy Thomas & Sal Buscema
First Appearance: Thor #240 (Oct. 1975)
Role: Egyptian God of The Sky, Sun & Moon, War & Hunting
Group Affiliations: The Heliopolitan Pantheon
PL 13 (254)
STRENGTH
12 STAMINA 13 AGILITY 4
FIGHTING 10 DEXTERITY 3
INTELLIGENCE 4 AWARENESS 4 PRESENCE 4

Skills:
Acrobatics 2 (+6)
Close Combat (Unarmed) 1 (+11)
Expertise (Egyptian God) 10 (+14)
Expertise (History) 5 (+9)
Expertise (Magic) 8 (+12)
Insight 4 (+8)
Intimidation 9 (+13)
Perception 5 (+9)
Persuasion 4 (+8)

Advantages:
Beginner's Luck, Benefit (God), Diehard, Equipment (Staff), Fast Grab, Improved Critical (Solar Beam) 2, Improved Defense, Jack-of-All-Trades, Power Attack, Ranged Attack 8, Ritualist, Takedown

Powers:
"Immortal God"
Regeneration 2 (Feats: Regrow Limbs) [3]
Immunity 10 (Aging, Starvation & Thirst, Heat, Cold, Disease, Fatigue Effects) [10]
Immunity 4 (Drowning & Suffocation, Poison, Pressure) (Flaws: Limited to Half-Effect) [2]
Speed 2 (8 mph) [2]
Morph 1 (Falcon Forms) (Extras: Metamorph) [6]
Flight 8 (500 mph) (Flaws: Winged) [8]
"Eyes of the Falcon" Senses 4 (Extended 2, Ultra & Low-Light Vision) [4]
"God of the Sun" Environment 6 (1,000 feet) (Light 2) [12]
Immunity 2 (Visual Dazzles) [2]

"The Eye of Horus" Affliction 13 (Fort; Dazed/Stunned/Paralyzed) (Extras: Cumulative, Ranged) (39) -- [42]
  • AE: "Solar Blast" Blast 14 (Feats: Split, Penetrating 8) (37)
  • AE: "Wide-Area Burst" Damage 13 (Extras: Area- 60ft. Cone) (26)
  • AE: Dazzle Visuals (Extras: Area- 60ft. Burst +2) (Flaws: Touch Range) (36)
Offense:
Unarmed +11 (+12 Damage, DC 27)
Solar Blast +11 (+15 Ranged Damage, DC 30)
Burst Area +13 (+13 Damage, DC 28)
Dazzle Area +13 (+13 Affliction, DC 23)
Paralyze +11 (+13 Ranged Affliction, DC 23)
Initiative +4

Defenses:
Dodge +10 (DC 20), Parry +11 (DC 21), Toughness +13, Fortitude +13, Will +9

Complications:
Responsibility (Egyptian Pantheon)
Enemy (Seth)

Total: Abilities: 108 / Skills: 48--24 / Advantages: 20 / Powers: 91 / Defenses: 11 (254)

Horus in Mythology: Horus is among the most significant Egyptian deities- a falcon-headed Sun God that is said to be the son of Isis and Osiris (he was made from the discarded penis of the slain Osiris, though early cults had Isis, Osiris, Set and Horus as siblings), and the one who slays Set, who killed Osiris. Horus is the God of the Sky, War and Hunting- as "The Sky", he contained both Sun & Moon (his eyes). His final descendants were, of course, the Pharaohs, thus "justifying" their power as being divine birthright.

-Horus spends much of his time in Marvel Comics being imprisoned by Seth- this happens in his first two appearances (in Thor and Marvel Two-In-One), and later on, he's easily defeated and consumed by The Demogorge. Only later does he really do anything, helping Thor fight Seth. In an alternate universe featured in The New Warriors, Horus is seen on the Avengers in place of Thor, as this is a world in which Egypt forged the future, not Europe. In every other story, he's "One Of Those Guys"- one of the figureheads just sitting around judging stuff.

-Horus is rather powerful, matching Hercules and being a tad below some versions of Thor (they can fight more or less as equals, give or take). He's quite versatile and strong, kicks ass pretty well (PL 11.5 unarmed, PL 13 Blaster, PL 12 Paralyze), and he's a Flying Brick/Blaster/Experienced Warrior combo.
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Re: Jab's Builds! (Mayan, Hindu, Polynesian & Celtic Gods! Leir!)

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Oh damn, finally saw this one in the bookstore:

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Yes, they FINALLY crossed over the two lines. Except they did it too late, since Ever After High has basically been cancelled. Quietly, as Mattel never really "announces" these things- you just sorta see them release less and less stuff, and then toy stores discount everything and get rid of it.

It's really too bad, because EAH had a way more fun story and characters than MH. But they really pulled a boner when they failed to REALLY launch EAH using the successful Monster High I.P.- all they did was put C.A. Cupid in the school! They should have done a full movie with, like, crossover characters and stuff! There was no excuse to just let this Disney Princess-esque line try to prove itself all on its own! The same-y looking character designs didn't help, of course.

I flipped through the book itself (READING about the characters just doesn't hold my interest for long), and it ends in a pretty "meta" way, as the Narrators get involved, they start speaking TO the readers, then it literally becomes a Choose Your Own Adventure in the last chapter, and you have to write your own solution, because of how the plot works out (sorry to spoil it for the readers just chomping at the bit to find out how it was ending).
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Re: Jab's Builds! (Leir! Cuchullain! Filipino & Egyptian Gods!)

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Another issue with the "Celtic Gods" is that the term "Celtic" just means "the people from this general area", and isn't any one particular group. So the Celtic Gods could very well be the folk tales of any number of people, roughly jumbled together ("Oh, so Lugh is a thing, too? Okay, well I guess he's the father of OUR guy, then"), years after the fact.
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Re: Jab's Builds! (Leir! Cuchullain! Filipino & Egyptian Gods!)

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Jabroniville wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2017 11:24 am Another issue with the "Celtic Gods" is that the term "Celtic" just means "the people from this general area", and isn't any one particular group. So the Celtic Gods could very well be the folk tales of any number of people, roughly jumbled together ("Oh, so Lugh is a thing, too? Okay, well I guess he's the father of OUR guy, then"), years after the fact.
My classical mythology professor explained it as "The Celts were a wide-spread people, and their beliefs systems varied depending on their region and time-period... and none of them were interested in leaving records". The only records we have of their faith and culture came from outside observers (ie the Roman Empire) that did have a habit of keeping records of things and writing stuff down for posterity, and from Irish monks who had converted to Christianity and were taught to read and write in the monasteries centuries later that transcribed the Irish-Celtic myths and folklore in order to preserve that aspect of their culture and ancestral history.

The "Celtic gods" we know now are mostly known because of either Romans writing about them (and the Romans were pretty biased sources), or Irish monks talking about them much, much later and having to do some historical revisionism in order to actually be allowed to write them while in a monastery.
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Re: Jab's Builds! (Leir! Cuchullain! Filipino & Egyptian Gods!)

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Hi guys, I'm finally back from five days of Lucca Comics & Games, which is a lot tougher than it looks :P

Anyway after speeding through the last eight or so pages what is killing me is how Marvel pretty much strived to conform all the pantheons to a single recognizable model, which might be good for understanding them, but it's downright terrible in so many other way. Many characters here aren't even gods proper, nor demigods as we understand them (i.e. the Greek definition of half-human, half-divine) but some other kind of entity completely separated. This is particulary egregious when you consider the pantheons of Native Americans, Hawaians and Inuit.
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Re: Jab's Builds! (Mayan, Hindu, Polynesian & Celtic Gods! Leir!)

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catsi563 wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2017 1:45 am religious bias too since the serpent gets the shaft in judeo Christian mythos as the second root of mankinds downfall with women taking the first place trophy.
Yea, especially since a couple of different cultures saw them as either symbols of rebirth (the ouroboros) or healing (Rod of Asclepius). That's why the Rod of Asclepius is used as a symbol by a lot of hospitals, at least when they don't mistakenly use the caduceus which also has snakes.
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Earth Force

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EARTH FORCE:
-Earth Force was formed with the evil Egyptian Death God Seth (you have to say the whole thing, or it just sounds like you're describing some dude) empowered three humans who'd suffered horrible injuries through no fault of their own. Seth tricked them into fighting Thor & Hogun the Grim, but they eventually realized that the Asgardians weren't evil, and turned on Seth. Seth fatally-wounded them, but they were restored to life by the Gods of Heliopolis (Egypt). The group appeared a couple times in Thor afterwards, but after that they vanished until a Post-Civil War story threw them out there as a random one-off working under the Fifty State Initiative. Actually, it was just Skyhawk, and he turned out to be a Skrull.

-Their designs are interesting to me, because they're borderline Kirby-esque, being very simple but also somewhat iconic and neat to look at. But they're also very dated, looking like costumes from the 1960s in a book that came out around the same time Cable & Gambit did. It's really quite peculiar.
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Earth Lord

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EARTH LORD (Kyle Brock)
Created By:
Tom DeFalco & Ron Frenz
First Appearance: Thor #395 (Sept. 1988)
Role: Powerhouse
Group Affiliation: Earth Force
PL 8 (93)
STRENGTH
2/10 STAMINA 2/10 AGILITY 1
FIGHTING 6 DEXTERITY 4
INTELLIGENCE 2 AWARENESS 2 PRESENCE 2

Skills:
Deception 2 (+4)
Expertise (Police Officer) 4 (+6)
Insight 2 (+4)
Intimidation 2 (+4, +8 Size)
Stealth 2 (+3, -5 Size)

Advantages:
Fast Grab, Improved Hold

Powers:
"Draw Powers From The Earth" Growth 8 (Str & Sta +8, +8 Mass, +4 Intimidation, -4 Dodge/Parry, +1 Speed, -8 Stealth) -- (30 feet) (Feats: Innate) (Extras: Permanent +0) [17]
Power-Lifting 1 (50 tons) [1]

Offense:
Unarmed +6 (+2 Damage, DC 17)
Full Size +6 (+10 Damage, DC 25)
Initiative +1

Defenses:
Dodge +8 (DC 18), Parry +8 (DC 18), Toughness +2, Fortitude +2, Will +4
"Full Size" Dodge +4 (DC 14), Parry +4 (DC 14), Toughness +10, Fortitude +10, Will +4

Complications:
Responsibility (The NYPD)

Total: Abilities: 42 / Skills: 12--6 / Advantages: 2 / Powers: 18 / Defenses: 11 (93)

-Kyle Brock was an NYPD officer who was hospitalized after being shot by criminals. Given Growth Powers by Seth, the sign of Atom appeared on his palm while he fought. Like most low-end Growth Guys, he gets pretty tough (PL 8 on offense), but drops defenses horribly-fast (down to PL 7).
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Re: Jab's Builds! (Leir! Cuchullain! Filipino & Egyptian Gods!)

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Woodclaw wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2017 2:24 pm Hi guys, I'm finally back from five days of Lucca Comics & Games, which is a lot tougher than it looks :P

Anyway after speeding through the last eight or so pages what is killing me is how Marvel pretty much strived to conform all the pantheons to a single recognizable model, which might be good for understanding them, but it's downright terrible in so many other way. Many characters here aren't even gods proper, nor demigods as we understand them (i.e. the Greek definition of half-human, half-divine) but some other kind of entity completely separated. This is particulary egregious when you consider the pantheons of Native Americans, Hawaians and Inuit.
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One of the most notable things to me is how Marvel takes the fact that the Greeks were immortal and tries to reflect that with EVERY Pantheon, even though that's not true. Oddly enough, the Olympians could NEVER be killed (save Uranos), yet are merely un-aging in Marvel, but that whole "ageless/resurrection" thing shows up all the time. Various Norse Gods, Egypitan ones, the Celtic ones in particular (ALL of whom have tales of death), are seen being killed.

Multiple Pantheons have a single "Skyfather" even though you won't really see that reflected in many mythologies- the Tuatha have The Dagda arbitrarily made their chief god among all the others, the Japanese gods are led by Izanagi, etc. The "Creator" God isn't always the leader in real life, either.
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Wind Warrior

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WIND WARRIOR (Pamela Shaw)
Created By:
Tom DeFalco & Ron Frenz
First Appearance: Thor #395 (Sept. 1988)
Role: Elementalist
Group Affiliation: Earth Force
PL 8 (115)
STRENGTH
6 STAMINA 6 AGILITY 2
FIGHTING 5 DEXTERITY 4
INTELLIGENCE 2 AWARENESS 2 PRESENCE 2

Skills:
Insight 2 (+4)

Advantages: 
Ranged Attack 2

Powers:
"Become Wind"
Insubstantial 2 [10]
Concealment (Visuals) 2 [4]

"Tornado #1" Blast 8 (Extras: Area- 30ft. Burst) (24) -- [28]
  • AE: "Tornado #2" Blast 8 (Extras: Area- 30ft. Cylinder) (24)
  • AE: Wind Blast 6 (Feats: Accurate) (13)
  • AE: "Wind" Features 2: Snuff Flames, Throw Off Arrows, Other Effects (2)
  • AE: Environment 5 (250 feet) (Impede Movement 2) (10)
Offense:
Unarmed +5 (+6 Damage, DC 21)
Tornados +8 Area (+8 Ranged Damage, DC 23)
Wind Blast +8 (+6 Ranged Damage, DC 21)
Initiative +2

Defenses:
Dodge +8 (DC 18), Parry +7 (DC 17), Toughness +6, Fortitude +6, Will +4

Complications:
None

Total: Abilities: 60 / Skills: 2--1 / Advantages: 2 / Powers: 42 / Defenses: 10 (115)

-Given a horribly-depressing backstory, Pamela Shaw tried to take her own life after her baby died and her husband had left her (!!). She could transform her body into wind, and use basic Wind Stuff (I've statted enough forgotten Wind Characters to just Cut & Paste them frequently).
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Re: Jab's Builds! (Leir! Cuchullain! Filipino & Egyptian Gods!)

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Wtf, They made Bast and Sekhmet into dudes? Also weird to use some of the Egyptian names alongside the (more-well-known-and-we-actually-know-how-to-pronounce) Greek names for the majority.

The whole mess of conflation over the centuries involving Hathor, Bast, Bastet and Sekhmet is pretty fascinating (er, if you are at least a bit of a mythology nerd, that is).
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Skyhawk

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SKYHAWK (Winston Manchester)
Created By:
Tom DeFalco & Ron Frenz
First Appearance: Thor #395 (Sept. 1988)
Role: Flier
Group Affiliation: Earth Force
PL 8 (97)
STRENGTH
8 STAMINA 8 AGILITY 3
FIGHTING 8 DEXTERITY 4
INTELLIGENCE 2 AWARENESS 2 PRESENCE 2

Skills:
Expertise (Business) 6 (+8)
Insight 2 (+4)

Advantages: 
Improved Initiative 2, Move-By Action, Ranged Attack 2

Powers:
Flight 7 (250 mph) (Flaws: Winged) [7]
Power-Lifting 1 (12 tons) [1]

Offense:
Unarmed +8 (+8 Damage, DC 23)
Initiative +3

Defenses:
Dodge +8 (DC 18), Parry +8 (DC 18), Toughness +6, Fortitude +8, Will +4

Complications:
None

Total: Abilities: 74 / Skills: 8--4 / Advantages: 4 / Powers: 8 / Defenses: 7 (97)

-A businessman hospitalized due to overwork, he's the least-sympathetic of his team, but the only one to appear outside of a small window of time in Thor. Well, sort of- he showed up as part of the Fifty-State Initiative, except that it turned out he was a Skrull during Secret Invasion. It's kind of sad that they wasted a bitchin' name like "Skyhawk" on a character they're never gonna use. It's like how Claremont & Cockrum invented 20 amazing codenames and looks for the Shi'ar Imperial Guard- characters who were never going to get a big run, outside of Gladiator.

-Skyhawk, like his partners, is pretty simple, and based around being a Flier. Which isn't much of a power, except that he's ALSO a Class 10 Superhuman.
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