Pretty much all Marvel heroes underwent something similar over the year. Originally, Ben Grimm could only lift 4-5 tons and Spidey was around the 1 ton benchmark.
Also they never said if they were metric or imperial tons.
Pretty much all Marvel heroes underwent something similar over the year. Originally, Ben Grimm could only lift 4-5 tons and Spidey was around the 1 ton benchmark.
I'm pretty sure that, for Volstagg, it was tuns.
Ohhhhh yeah, stuff like the Vulcan Nerve Pinch is probably dragged from the same sources. I had no idea they went back that far. Yeah, that makes sense.Ares wrote: ↑Thu Dec 27, 2018 8:35 pm The whole Nerve Cluster / Pressure Point thing is actually older than that. Back in the 1920s, several pulp heroes were using them to take out opponents. The Spider several times would target nerve points to instantly take out opponents with a single hit, though he often had to use surprise in order to do so.
More famous was Doc Savage, who basically had his own version of the Vulcan Neck Pinch, where Doc could grab the base of your neck and squeeze it in such a way that you would be paralyzed but still conscious, rendered unconscious, etc. And he could "lock" you that way so that either he had to personally undo it, you needed to wait several hours, or needed some strong drugs. But with Doc Savage, the idea was that he was the world's greatest doctor, so he had discovered some means unknown to science.
And then the kids that read those pulps grew up to write comics and there you go.
Also, weirdly enough, Jim Starlin had Gamora use pressure points to KO Ben during Infinity Crusade.
LOL- I was wondering why any writer bothered to remember him- now I know. Wikipedia never lists "who wrote the follow-up". But I've noticed that dozens of times since I've started doing this thread- guys who wrote Marvel Team-Up or Marvel Two-In-One were prone to using their one-off creations from that in later books.I had wondered why this new Lockdown guy was in the Contest of Champions 2, until now, where its revealed that Claremont wrote both CoC2 and his origin story.
Yeppers- got the second half in my Christmas loot this year . Though I never start watching the season until I have both halves, fearing the other won't be released in time. I was gonna start the first half earlier this month when I saw the second part in stores, but I got busy with other stuff (okay, watching Kim Possible DVDs- THIS THREAD IS WORK, DAMMIT !!).KorokoMystia wrote: ↑Thu Dec 27, 2018 9:11 pm Of course, when I think Pressure Point-based martial arts in fiction, my mind usually jumps to Fist of the North Star, where they take it to the point that pressing the right pressure points just makes people straight up explode.
Also, did the Sailor Moon SuperS blu-ray come out yet? I haven't heard much on it lately.
Haha, holy crap- TOTALLY missed that link. Damn, that writer WAS a major comics fan, I guess!KorokoMystia wrote: ↑Sun Dec 23, 2018 1:42 am Man, whoever created those characters must have had quite a bit of knowlege of SHIELD, since the Director/Gemini thing seems to directly parody the Nick Fury/Scorpio thing (villain named after a Zodiac sign is actually the brother of the director)
It did pop up in the 70s martial arts stuff like Shang Chi, Iron Fist, Richard Dragon and occasionally even that era Batman. Pulp-inspired fiction like Remo Williams: The Destroyer also made heavy use of it. And it was also the basis for 60s guys like Karate Kid and Karnak's weak point detection.Jabroniville wrote: ↑Thu Dec 27, 2018 11:17 pmOhhhhh yeah, stuff like the Vulcan Nerve Pinch is probably dragged from the same sources. I had no idea they went back that far. Yeah, that makes sense.Ares wrote: ↑Thu Dec 27, 2018 8:35 pm The whole Nerve Cluster / Pressure Point thing is actually older than that. Back in the 1920s, several pulp heroes were using them to take out opponents. The Spider several times would target nerve points to instantly take out opponents with a single hit, though he often had to use surprise in order to do so.
More famous was Doc Savage, who basically had his own version of the Vulcan Neck Pinch, where Doc could grab the base of your neck and squeeze it in such a way that you would be paralyzed but still conscious, rendered unconscious, etc. And he could "lock" you that way so that either he had to personally undo it, you needed to wait several hours, or needed some strong drugs. But with Doc Savage, the idea was that he was the world's greatest doctor, so he had discovered some means unknown to science.
And then the kids that read those pulps grew up to write comics and there you go.
Also, weirdly enough, Jim Starlin had Gamora use pressure points to KO Ben during Infinity Crusade.
Though I notice it being a particularly big thing in the comics post-Dark Knight Returns. None of my comics set in an earlier time period seem to feature such a thing. Was it around in the Iron Fist stuff?
This is so silly it transcends itself and becomes...artJabroniville wrote: ↑Fri Dec 28, 2018 12:30 am
LECTRONN (Tommy Samuels)
Created By: Sholly Fisch & James Fry III
First Appearance: Marvel Age #49 (April 1987)
Role: Forgotten Villain
Group Affiliations: None
PL 7 (97)
STRENGTH 7 STAMINA 5 AGILITY 3
FIGHTING 4 DEXTERITY 3
INTELLIGENCE 1 AWARENESS 2 PRESENCE 2
Skills:
Deception 2 (+4)
Insight 2 (+4)
Advantages:
Ranged Attack 2
Powers:
Electron Blasts 8 (Feats: Split) [17]
"Lowering His Atomic Weight" Flight 7 (250 mph) [14]
"Atomic-Powered Strength" Power-Lifting 1 (12 tons) [1]
Offense:
Unarmed +4 (+7 Damage, DC 22)
Electron Blast +5 (+8 Ranged Damage, DC 23)
Initiative +3
Defenses:
Dodge +6 (DC 16), Parry +5 (DC 15), Toughness +5, Fortitude +6, Will +4
Complications:
Relationship (Amy Jo- Wife)- Lectronn's wife was transformed by aliens, and he re-trains himself in order to rescue her.
Total: Abilities: 54 / Skills: 4--2 / Advantages: 2 / Powers: 32 / Defenses: 7 (97)
-Lectronn appeared in the anthology/advertising book Marvel Age- he was a polio patient who'd been confined to a wheelchair, but was given great power by a mysterious alien. He manages to defeat some thieves, but in the process, seriously injures them by accident. He thus learns the age-old lesson, "With great power, there must come great responsibility". And then the character never showed up in another book. Marvunapp has some people going back and forth in obsessive detail about the guy (god I love that site), suggesting that he's inspired by a French superhero called Photonik, who has a very similar costume with the same spikey mask-things- the artist, James Fry III, says that he possibly unintentionally-copied the look after seeing one of the French comics lying around the office (this happens a LOT to artists, by the way- I once created an AWESOME new Cowgirl-Themed Superhero with blue stars on a white costume, only to realize that my costume was 100% copied from Johnny Haradrim).
-Lectronn is actually the result of a Sentry-like office prank at Marvel, where they claimed that Lectronn was created in the 1970s by legendary artist "Jack Fury". Fry was hired on because he was good at mimicking other styles (such as the "Seventies Style" used for this strip), and many aspects of the hero- like flying by LOWERING HIS ATOMIC WEIGHT- was designed to poke fun at old comics things like "Scientific explanations that make no damn sense". They used the same article to claim that MC Escher once drew an issue of Avengers, and they were shocked to discover that this actually drove up back issue sales of that one tale! Even though they'd put a disclaimer decrying their own article as a fake!
-Until, of course, some modern writers used him in a post-Civil War thing (that event, if nothing else, gave writers the excuse to dig up every obscure character they could find out of the woodwork- "they show up in Civil War: Battle Damage Report" is basically on an endless loop with many of my builds), where it's revealed that he's gotten married and had twins. His wife is transformed and taken away by aliens, and he has to re-train himself in order to rescue her. He appears in the background of many of the actual Civil War issues, being about the most random, obscure character there.
-Lectronn has "Atomic-Powered Strength" and some generic Flying Blaster stuff, but isn't a very powerful, nor experienced, super-hero.