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Post by Flynnarrel » Wed Jan 15, 2020 7:05 pm

I'm only sad he doesn't have interpose.
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Post by Tattooedman » Wed Jan 15, 2020 7:08 pm

That's easily fixed :mrgreen: .

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Post by Flynnarrel » Wed Jan 15, 2020 8:45 pm

True, But didn't know if it fit your concept of the character.
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Post by McGuffin » Wed Jan 15, 2020 8:57 pm

I have a PL 10 character I could bust down to PL 8. I'll just post her as is so you'll get an idea of her crunch and fluff.

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Carolien ”Carol” Van Lunen
PL 10//150 pp/2e
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Concept: Female Spider-man-expy with a mercenary attitude and thrill-seeking tendencies

Abilites (30):
Str 18/24 (+4/+7) | Dex 18/26 (+4/+8) | Con 16/22 (+3/+6) | Int 10 (+0) | Wis 14 (+2) | Cha 14 (+2)

Powers (73):
Nimble: Enhanced Dexterity 8, Enhanced Attack 2, Enhanced Defense 2 [16]
Resilient and Strong: Enhanced Strength 6, Enhanced Constitution 6, Super-Strength 1 [26]
Spider Movement: Leaping 2, Super-Movement 3 (Swinging, Wall-crawling 2) [8]
Spider Senses: Super-Senses 6 (Danger Sense, Darkvision, Tremorsense) [6]
Web Snare: Snare 8 [16]
-Alternate Power: Web Tether: Move Object 8 [1]

Skills (10): Acrobatics 12 (+20), Bluff 5 (+7), Climb 5 (+12), Language 2 (Afrikaans – Native, Dutch, English), Sense Motive 4 (+6), Notice 6 (+8), Stealth 6 (+14)

Feats (23): Acrobatic Bluff, Attack Specialization: Unarmed 5, Attack Specialization: Web Snare 4, Defensive Roll 2, Dodge Focus 5, Evasion, Improved Initiative, Improved Trip, Move-by Action, Redirect

Combat (12): Atk +3 (+13 Unarmed, +11 Web Snare) | Damage +7 (Unarmed) | Def 22 | Init +12

Saves (3): Fort +6, Ref +8, Tough +8, Will +5

Abilities 30 + Powers 73 + Skills 10 + Feats 23 + Combat 12 + Saves 3 = 150

Complication: Motivation (Thrills)

Carolien Van Lunen is an Olympic level gymnast from a South African family with a tradition of service in armed forces. The Van Lunen family has served in various military outfits from the Navy to mercenary companies, from cavalry to guerrilla fighters. Her father, a notorious mercenary who has fought in many conflicts on the African continent, raised Carolien and her brother Jacob in a strict military fashion, drilling them from a young age in skills like survival and hand-to-hand combat. Carolien excelled at all things physical, having been blessed with a natural grace to her movements that made her particularly deadly.

Still, she didn’t take to her father’s no-nonsense attitude and strict military discipline, nor was she motivated by greed like Jacob. No, Carolien was in it for the thrills, the adrenaline rush that came from putting her life in danger and risking it all against increasingly dangerous opponents. She was an independent soul, who owed no allegiances to anyone except for herself.

Carolien has a playful personality which more serious mindsets might find difficult to work with. Still, although she has no trouble goofing off, making jokes or flirting with colleagues, she has shown herself to be every bit the born soldier her heritage would indicate her to be.
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Re: The Dirty (M&M2e Recruiting)

Post by Tattooedman » Wed Jan 15, 2020 10:20 pm

Flynnarrel wrote:
Wed Jan 15, 2020 8:45 pm
True, But didn't know if it fit your concept of the character.
Before he got his mind right? Nope. But now? Yep.

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Post by Poodle » Wed Jan 15, 2020 11:40 pm

I was thinking of a Deadshot/Punisher sort of build. Is that a little too dark? If so I can try and rustle up something a little fluffier..
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Post by Bombshell » Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:11 pm

CaptainChaos, that's fine I guess. I'd like to see a character pitch on top of it. What type of explosions are we taking about?

TattooedMan. I do enjoy the concept of the character, but this is not a 'get out of jail' program. The shadowy figures were upfront about the fact the reason they were using you guys is that you were the type that would do such black ops. To get you out and use you for a better purpose. I may have not said the latter point, but let me make implication known :mrgreen:

Speaking of implications, I'm assuming Manticore's weakness being his mental state? If he were to go rogue on a mission (not saying he will!) and the benefactors activate his weakness, right now I'm seeing him attacked by mental projections of kittens. That about right?

ZenGypsy/TattooedMan, as for the Impervious Toughness question, Luke Cage is very street level! Also, there are other ways to deal with tanks/walls than hitting them with damage. :twisted: But seriously, I will give you guys time to shine with both your strengths and weaknesses. Like I said in the interest thread, If the 'Issue 0' goes well, the games afterward will be kind of character focused on top of 'go do this for us'

McGuffin, that seems all well and good, but lower it down and tie it to the pitch and you're good.

Poodle, I mentioned that the tone would be sinister with an undertone of dark comedy. On that note, I'm not asking for full out silly. In this post dark age era, most people are self aware and take it with a lighter tone. That's why they chose you guys and not the Professor Take Over The World or Black Dark the Blood Miser.

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Post by Bombshell » Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:29 pm

And a quick note. While you guys are not world bashers, you have fought against some of the world's best heroes. To a defeat mind you, but 'street level' might not fit some of you guys :D

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Post by FuzzyBoots » Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:41 pm

Bombshell wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:29 pm
And a quick note. While you guys are not world bashers, you have fought against some of the world's best heroes. To a defeat mind you, but 'street level' might not fit some of you guys :D
Just for the sake of verisimilitude, are these best heroes also at PL 8? If not, were we just having a good day? Have our skills gotten rusty over our imprisonment and/or we've been deprived of the source of power that let us match those heroes?

It's a pretty standard comic book trope that even the most pitiful of villains can have an issue where they fend off the top-league heroes (and as Jabroniville comments on as "New Villain Stink", villains typically debut at a PL or 2 higher than their typical performance, presumably since the hero hasn't met them before, and therefore doesn't know how to fight them best), but in a mechanically limited system like M&M, it would be good to know how the PL 8 villain managed to hold off PL 10 heroes, at least for backstory purposes. :)
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Post by Flynnarrel » Thu Jan 16, 2020 3:51 pm

Part of a gang?
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Post by Tattooedman » Thu Jan 16, 2020 4:26 pm

Bombshell wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:11 pm
TattooedMan. I do enjoy the concept of the character, but this is not a 'get out of jail' program. The shadowy figures were upfront about the fact the reason they were using you guys is that you were the type that would do such black ops. To get you out and use you for a better purpose. I may have not said the latter point, but let me make implication known :mrgreen:
Oh I get the implication, but for Manticore I was trying to show his reason for taking up the offer. He wasn't going to get out now that his mind is right (despite there could be a possible case because of it) and Manticore knows it.
Bombshell wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:11 pm
Speaking of implications, I'm assuming Manticore's weakness being his mental state? If he were to go rogue on a mission (not saying he will!) and the benefactors activate his weakness, right now I'm seeing him attacked by mental projections of kittens. That about right?
Yep. Although I was debating about giving Manticore a Vulnerability to Psionic themed attacks as well.
Bombshell wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:11 pm
ZenGypsy/TattooedMan, as for the Impervious Toughness question, Luke Cage is very street level! Also, there are other ways to deal with tanks/walls than hitting them with damage. :twisted: But seriously, I will give you guys time to shine with both your strengths and weaknesses. Like I said in the interest thread, If the 'Issue 0' goes well, the games afterward will be kind of character focused on top of 'go do this for us'
Luke Cage was firmly in my mind when building Manticore, but I was also wanting to show why Manticore was such a threat in the past. But like I said - if you want me to dial down the Impervious I can do that no problem.

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Post by CaptainChaos » Fri Jan 17, 2020 2:22 am

The basic idea for my character is someone that can generate and fire different types of explosive bolts to be used for damage, blinding, and trip attacks. They are a demolitions and explosives expert, possibly former special ops or police. They got their powers from an accident that also caused them to become mad. I considered someone that was a former Navy Seal or similar that was a demolitions expert. A bomb went off too early killing part of the team and giving them their powers.

If that power set doesn't fit your game concept then I have a few other ideas including a couple of different energy controller types.

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Post by Bombshell » Fri Jan 17, 2020 2:09 pm

FuzzyBoots, I assume heroes don't fight at their full potential all the time. If Superman or Iron Man used the same level of power they fight cosmic level threats against the villains of Earth, well, there'd be a lot less villains. To put it mechanically, yes, the good guys are PL 10s or better (Fallen/Shining Knight, Dolphin and maybe K-9 (RIP) notwithstanding) but they're not going to unleash all the time.

Flynnarrel, yeah, some people join super groups for back up and protection. Others join just to show off and hurt people. At your level, you guys were mostly leaders if you did that type of thing.

TattoedMan, good stuff. Depends if you want kind of points that Psychic weakness to give you.

CaptainChaos, I see nothing wrong with the concept.

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Re: The Dirty (M&M2e Recruiting)

Post by CaptainChaos » Fri Jan 17, 2020 3:11 pm

Thanks for the feedback. On my drive to work this morning I thought of another concept. Someone that can shatter and move glass and blast glass shards.

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Re: The Dirty (M&M2e Recruiting)

Post by Tattooedman » Fri Jan 17, 2020 3:58 pm

So a real Glass Cannon?

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