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Reptilla

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WELL then.

REPTILLA
Created By:
Len Wein & George Perez
First Appearance: The Fantastic Four #186 (Sept. 1977)
Role: The Scrapper
Group Affiliations: Salem's Seven
PL 8 (150)
STRENGTH
5 STAMINA 7 AGILITY 5
FIGHTING 10 DEXTERITY 0
INTELLIGENCE 1 AWARENESS 1 PRESENCE 1

Skills:
Athletics 5 (+10)
Deception 3 (+4)
Expertise (Magic) 5 (+6)
Expertise (Theology & Philosophy) 5 (+6)
Insight 5 (+6)
Intimidation 6 (+7)
Investigation 4 (+5)
Perception 6 (+7)
Stealth 5 (+10)

Advantages:
All-Out Attack, Fast Grab, Improved Critical (Snake Bites), Improved Grab, Improved Hold, Improved Initiative, Power Attack, Ritualist, Startle, Set-Up, Teamwork

Powers:
"Reptilla Form" Alternate Form (Action -1) [-1]

"Arms That Are Also Snakes"
Power-Lifting 2 (3 tons) [2]
Strength-Damage +2 (Feats: Split, Reach 5) [8]
Elongation 2 [2]

"Venomous Bite"
Weaken Stamina 8 (Feats: Split, Reach 5) (Extras: Progression +2) (Inaccurate -1) [29]

"Snake's Tail"
Movement 1 (Slithering) [2]
"Animal Senses" Senses 3 (Extended & Acute Scent, Infravision) [3]

Offense:
Unarmed +10 (+5 Damage, DC 20)
Poison +8 (+8 Weaken, DC 18)
Initiative +9

Defenses:
Dodge +11 (DC 21), Parry +11 (DC 21), Toughness +7, Fortitude +8, Will +5

Complications:
Motivation (Guarding New Salem)- Salem's Seven are occasionally evil and sometimes just protective- they just want to guard their home. Problem is, they're highly mistrustful and xenophobic.

Total: Abilities: 60 / Skills: 44--22 / Advantages: 11 / Powers: 45 / Defenses: 12 (150)

-Reptilla is the most visually interesting of the Salem's Seven; she's a green reptilian woman with snakes for arms (like that He-Man villain!) and a snake's tail. This makes her the forefront member of the squad whenever they're seen in group pre-fight mode (usually the only way they're seen, now that I think about it), and she usually does the best in combat, grappling a strong hero or something.

-Reptilla is like most of the team, a PL 9 semi-balanced fighter who's pretty accurate and kinda tough, but not overly lethal. She's quite strong, and VERY effective in Grappling (All the Advantages, plus Power-Lifting 2, in case you wanna use that as a Tiebreaker), and can extend her limbs out by quite a ways. I also figured I'd give her a snake's senses and some toughness. The whole of Salem's Seven apart don't make much of a villian set-up, but when combined, they're VERY dangerous, even to a team of PL 11s like the Fantastic Four (their baseline opponents). They outnumber them almost two-to-one, all have Set-Up & Teamwork, and they've got Reptilla & Brutacus to lay down some damage in Melee while the others Blast away and Vertigo messes up the FF's minds. The fact that Reptilla can just tie up any one of the heroes for any length of time makes her a devastating team player.
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Re: Jab’s Builds! (Vision! The Wasp III! Scarlet Witch! Quicksilver!)

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And that's the Salem's Seven! Another group of D-List easy victims for a super-hero team done in a long-ass series of them. They're actually kinda fun to stat up, as they're all physically strong and have one or two fairly unique gimmicks (Snakes for arms? Water cannon? Air body?), and balance out nicely, which most D-list villains tend not to do. Scratch himself is no super-heavyweight, but a decent PL 11 with alot of powers and a tendency to be a planner.
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Re: Brutacus

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BRUTACUS
Created By:
Len Wein & George Perez
First Appearance: The Fantastic Four #186 (Sept. 1977)
Role: The Powerhouse
Group Affiliations: Salem's Seven
PL 9 (111)
STRENGTH
11 STAMINA 10 AGILITY 3
FIGHTING 6 DEXTERITY 0
INTELLIGENCE 0 AWARENESS 1 PRESENCE 0

Skills:
Expertise (Magic) 5 (+5)
Intimidation 8 (+8)
Perception 5 (+6)
Investigation 4 (+5)

Advantages:
All-Out Attack, Fast Grab, Great Endurance, Improved Critical (Unarmed), Improved Grab, Improved Hold, Power Attack, Precise Attack (Close/Concealment), Ritualist, Startle

Powers:
"Brutacus Form" Alternate Form (Action -1) [-1]

Protection 1 (Extras: Impervious 5) [6]
Leaping 3 (60 feet) [3]

"Strength Feats"
"Groundstrike" Affliction 9 (Dodge; Hindered/Prone) (Extras: Area- 30ft. Burst) (Flaws: Limited Degree, Instant Recovery, Limited to Grounded Targets) Linked to Damage 9 (Extras: Area- 30ft. Burst) (Flaws: Limited to Objects) (12) -- [13]
  • AE: "Line Groundstrike" Affliction 9 (Dodge; Hindered/Prone) (Extras: Area- 30ft. Line) (Flaws: Limited Degree, Instant Recovery, Limited to Grounded Targets) Linked to Damage 9 (Extras: Area- 30ft. Line) (Flaws: Limited to Objects) (12)
Offense:
Unarmed +6 (+11 Damage, DC 26)
Groundstrikes +9 Area (+9 Affliction, DC 19)
Initiative +5

Defenses:
Dodge +6 (DC 16), Parry +6 (DC 16), Toughness +11 (+3 Impervious), Fortitude +10, Will +5

Complications:
Motivation (Guarding New Salem)- Salem's Seven are occasionally evil and sometimes just protective- they just want to guard their home. Problem is, they're highly mistrustful and xenophobic.

Total: Abilities: 62 / Skills: 22--11 / Advantages: 10 / Powers: 21 / Defenses: 7 (111)

-Brutacus is the "muscle" of the Salem's Seven, being their strongest and toughest member. Well, really, EVERY team needs one of those guys, especially since Marvel popularized the "at least one Super-Heavyweight per team" policy in the Super-Hero Union books (though it didn't truly get instigated until the 1990s). He actually did quite well in his debut, fighting off the Thing for a good chunk of time, but he's typically more of a backgrounder on his squad- "Dumb Muscle". The horned-lion look is actually decent, but he looks like a lamer version of The Griffin. At least he's a better lion-themed guy than Leo of the Zodiac Cartel.

-Brutacus is your standard Powerhouse, but with some differences. He's designed to go up against The Thing or Vision on a one-on-one basis and hold his own, but that's likely all he'll do- he lacks Ben's raw power or Vision's multi-faceted approach to combat, and ends up being a low-pointed PL 8.5 guy- the cheapest by far of his entire team. He's just a little bit too limited.
Was Brutacus' strength tripled as he stated? He still had his traditional look at that point.

I thought maybe with the later appearances with more inhuman looks (no offense, Inhumans :lol: ) were because all 7 had their powers increased?
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The Young Avengers

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THE YOUNG AVENGERS:
-Coming out around the same time as Runaways, but predating the Young Hero books that followed it (including The Initiative, Young Allies and Avengers Academy), The Young Avengers debuted in 2004, filling the gap between Avengers: Disassembled and Bendis revamping that series- the kids on the book were all meant to look like "Legacy Heroes", with a few sharing the names of their predecessors or having names inspired by them- Asgardian (Thor/Scarlet Witch), Iron Lad (Iron Man; but actually the teen self of Kang the Conqueror), Patriot (Captain America), "Hawkeye II" Kate Bishop (Hawkeye), Vision III (Vision II), Hulkling (Hulk), Speed (Quicksilver), and Stature (Ant-Man/The Wasp). It was created by a writer I've never heard of, Allan Heinberg (best known for TV credits in writing & production, working on The Gilmore Girls, Sex and the City, and other things) and Jim Cheung, who had a somewhat unique style that was both detailed and cartoonish. I've personally never read their actual main appearances, so this will mostly be Wiki-built- I've read many of their side-appearances, though.

The team is told to give it up by Captain America & Iron Man, but rebel and keep going, because, well... it's a Teen Hero book. They NEVER do what adults say. Various things come about- Stature has an adversarial relationship with her mother & stepfather (her dad was currently dead), Patriot is abusing Mutant Growth Hormone to mimic having super-powers, and Asgardian & Hulkling have an obvious enough romantic entanglement that fans immediately picked up on it, despite the writer initially wanting it to be subtle. In this case, Heinberg was planning on Asgardian flirting with a female shapeshifter who would later reveal "herself" as male, but editor Tom Brevoort was like "That's too complicated; why not just make them gay?". Heinberg, who had assumed this would have been kiboshed and so suggested it, was like "Oh, well that was my original idea".

Hulkling turns out to be the Half-Skrull son of Captain Mar-Vell, Eli gains real powers thanks to a blood transfusion from his grandfather, and the kids join up with Cap in Civil War, and mostly avoid Registration, but Stature signs up with Iron Man's Initiative. She & Vision III form a relationship as he becomes his own person, and the two Hawkeyes finally meet when Clint Barton returns to life. They appear in minor roles in many major Marvel Crossovers, as the book is largely unconnected from other things- Norman Osborn forms a "Young Avengers" out of a team of total goofs who later call themselves the Young Masters, the YA kids fight on the sight of good in Siege (I was quite annoyed that the triumphant return of CAPTAIN AMERICA featured him teaming up with these D-Listers instead of the major Avengers, to be honest), and more.

Many moons ago, I made the assertion about Hulkling that "largely his entire character revolves around him being in a relationship with Wiccan". Literally every comic I've ever read featuring the Young Avengers (even where they only make a cameo) makes mention of this relationship, with one of the two making sure to mention "my boyfriend" within a couple panels. To the point of obnoxiousness. Batgirl III, who'd actually read their book, insisted this was only the case in their guest appearances, as less-capable or less-familiar writers kind of just latched onto side traits, as they weren't any more obnoxious than any number of Marvel couplings in various books (like Cyclops & the White Queen, who were an item at the time). I also found them funny because this was when it became mandatory for EVERY Teen Hero book to feature at least one gay member. Of course, it makes sense that gay heroes are increasing in number (as publically-outed celebrities are on the rise, as well as public acceptance of homosexuality), but it's kinda funny that the necessity of it only being NEW characters being gay means that it's all TEEN HEROES coming out of the closet, as each new teen book has at least one or two gay kids. Ya gotta wonder what they put in the water in New York these days, if the only gay heroes are the kids.

Avengers- The Children's Crusade:
Heinberg's run Young Avengers culminated with The Children's Crusade, a huge-ass mini-series that ran from 2010-12. Here, Asgardian (now called Wiccan) and Speed discover that they are actually the children of the Vision and the Scarlet Witch, somehow returned to actual life (the initial twins were revealed to be slivers of Mephisto himself). Magneto meets his grandchildren, Quicksilver tries to kill him, and then the Avengers all show up and Everybody Fights while an amnesiac Wanda Maximoff prepares to marry Doctor Doom. The Young Avengers go through time thanks to Iron Lad, and resurrect Scott Lang (Stature's father) and return Wanda's memories, and she finally undoes M-Day and returns powers to mutants everywhere. Doom manipulates things to grab Wanda's powers for himself, offering to solve all the problems of the X-Men & Avengers, and return their deceased loved ones to life, but all the heroes reject his offer, given he's DOCTOR DOOM. Wiccan & Wanda finally team up to defeat Doom, who reveals that he was behind Wanda going insane in Disassembled and House of M, and the cause of all her troubles. In the final moments, he kills an enraged Stature.

The Young Avengers are broken by Stature's death, even as Wanda & Wiccan share a tear-filled reunion as mother & son. When Iron Lad tries to save Stature by bringing her into the timestream, Vision III reacts poorly and there's a fight- Vision is killed. The team splits up and Wanda runs off to find herself, sending Wiccan into depression, but a proposal from Hulkling and their first kiss caps off Heinberg's run, as the team is inducted as full-fledged Avengers.

But Actually...:
-Instead of actually being Avengers, the team is rebooted into a new book in 2013, done by Kieron Gillen & Jamie McKelvie. Here, they're made up of Wiccan, Hulkling, Hawkeye II, Kid Loki, Marvel Boy (Noh-Varr) & the new Miss America. Soon, they are rejoined by Speed, and Prodigy of the Young X-Men enters as well. Kate hooks up with Noh-Varr & Prodigy comes out as bisexual and crushes on Hulkling, while Wiccan discovers that he is one of a million characters destined to be "Potentially the Most Powerful Hero Ever". Kid Loki naturally wants this power for himself, but comes to enjoy being with his teammates and regrets them splitting up in the end- he departs after betraying them, but Wiccan uses his "Demiurge" powers to stop an evil alien parasite. The book ends with issue #15, the creators wanting to move on.

Subsequently:
-The Young Avengers have largely broken up since then. Wiccan & Hulkling were on The New Avengers for such a short period of time I suspected Al Ewing had been forced to use the characters, as the arc had nothing to do with the rest of the series (it was about Kree/Skrull hybrids trying to get Hulkling to be their king), and they left the team to be together right away. Kate Bishop became a major character in Matt Fraction's beloved Hawkeye run. Speed & Patriot disappeared into Comics Limbo. Vision III is still dead, and Iron Lad became Kang. Later characters Prodigy & Noh-Varr also vanished, and Miss America became one of many minority characters to get a minor push by Marvel. The characters have been rumored for a "Disney+" series, but who knows?
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Re: Jab’s Builds! (Scarlet Witch! Quicksilver! Salem's Seven!)

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Young Avengers was one of the few legacy books from Marvel that worked. It was no masterpiece, but I think it was legitimately entertaining and there were both enough references and some good chemistry between these new characters and the old team.
Seeing everyone telling Kate Bishop that she should really took up Hawkeye's name, because none except her and Clint ever talked back to Steve Rogers was a great legacy moment.
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Wiccan

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WICCAN (Billy Kaplan, aka Asgardian)
Created By:
Allan Heinberg & Jim Cheung
First Appearance: Young Avengers #1 (April 2005)
Role: Magic... ish Kid
Group Affiliations: The Young Avengers
PL 8 (105)
STRENGTH
1 STAMINA 2 AGILITY 3
FIGHTING 5 DEXTERITY 2
INTELLIGENCE 1 AWARENESS 2 PRESENCE 2

Skills:
Athletics 2 (+3)
Deception 2 (+4)
Expertise (Magic) 5 (+6)
Insight 1 (+3)
Perception 2 (+4)

Advantages:
Luck 2, Ranged Attack 4, Ritualist

Powers:
"Spellcasting"
Teleport 8 (Extras: Extended, Portal +2) (40) -- [46]
  • AE: Flight 6 (120 mph) (12)
  • AE: Blast 10 (Feats: Variable 2- Any Energy) (22)
  • AE: "Locator Spell" Senses 7 (Mental Sense- Acute & Ranged 5) (7)
  • AE: Illusion (Visual & Hearing) 8 (24)
  • AE: "Astral Projection" Remote Sensing (Visuals) 10 (20)
  • AE: Force Field 8 (Extras: Affects Others) (16)
Features 1: Quick Change [1]

Offense:
Unarmed +5 (+1 Damage, DC 16)
Blasts +6 (+10 Ranged Damage, DC 25)
Illusion -- (+8 Illusion, DC 18)
Initiative +3

Defenses:
Dodge +6 (DC 16), Parry +6 (DC 16), Toughness +2 (+10 Force Field), Fortitude +4, Will +5

Complications:
Prejudice (Homosexual)- Billy was bullied in school for being gay.
Relationship (Hulkling)- They're in wuv. You might not know this, because they totally don't talk about it every five panels.
Power Loss (Reality Warping)- Wiccan must chant a mantra or statement of intent, then focus on the outcome he wants to achieve. Without this, he cannot use his Powers.
Relationship (Speed & The Scarlet Witch)- Billy is the reincarnated soul of her lost son, and Speed is the other.
Reputation (Uncontrolled Power)- Much like his mother, Billy has untapped potential, and limitless power (in theory). Even his closest friends worry if he's going to go down the same crazy path she did.

Total: Abilities: 36 / Skills: 12--6 / Advantages: 7 / Powers: 47 / Defenses: 9 (105)

-Wiccan is a bullied gay kid who gained magical super-powers because of the Scarlet Witch, then named himself Asgardian. Which is a horrible name for a multitude of reasons, but in this case specifically because they just named the freaking GAY KID "Ass Guardian" (to their credit, they mentioned the awful pun in-story). Joining the Young Avengers after Disassembled, when the main team was gone, he soon found himself attracted to teammate Hulkling (the writer assumed that Marvel wouldn't allow him to write about two gay characters, and so planned on a female shapeshifter, who would then be revealed as male in a "true form", but Editor Tom Brevoort was like "why not just make them both gay from the beginning?"). It turns out that Wiccan and his teammate Speed are actually the resurrected souls of Wanda Maximoff's children, who were resorbed by Mephisto as part of his plan to hurt her emotionally. The Young Avengers find Wanda in The Children's Crusade, the cap-off to the team's story, and cure her of amnesia and (temporarily) make her not crazy. Wiccan & Wanda embrace by story's end, but their teammate Stature dies. Wiccan blames himself for this final tragedy, but Hulking proposes to him, and they are accepted as "full-fledged Avengers" by Captain America.

-Now, I haven't read much of their stuff. But literally everything I DID read mentioned that it had two gay guys on the team who were in love like a THOUSAND TIMES, as if it were their only character traits. However, the backstory makes it clear this is just a smaller sample size, as a search for identity and other things make up part of his persona, too. In any case... the characters flounder a bit. The YAs turn out to have split up. An attempt at resurrecting Hulkling's mother brings a multiversal parasite named "Mother" to the group, and they ally with Kate Bishop & America Chavez to stop it. Loki, in the form of a young boy, arrives and eventually Billy realizes that one of his fates is to become the "Demiurge", a monstrous being who will alter magic across the multiverse (naturally, Loki both wants to help and to steal the Demiurge's power for himself). Trying to "spark" the Demiurge's power to kill the parasite (who is invisible to anyone over 23, rendering most of Earth's heroes ignorant of the festitivities so it's all on the kids), Wiccan & Hulkling, who'd split temporarily, make up and kiss, creating a huge blast that kills "Mother". So the gay male version of the "Care Bear Stare".

-He later appears with Hulkling as part of Sunspot's "Avengers Idea Mechanics" team in New Avengers under Al Ewing, mostly supporting Hulkling's story and then leaving the book after a single arc. In 2019, he appeared in a "Random Characters" book called Strikeforce that I've never heard of.

-Wiccan has some of Wanda's Reality Warping powers, essentially taking the form of semi-ritualistic Magic that lets him do virtually anything he wants to, given the right intent. However, he still seems pretty KO-able and vulnerable. He gets a lot of the "Potentially The Most Powerful Being Alive" stuff that a lot of teen characters end up getting, but given that Young Avengers goes away a lot, I don't imagine that ever coming true. To be honest, he's more notable for being part of one of the only gay pairings of two superheroes in comics. It's a bit... preachy, on the subject, given what I've read, but hey- Marvel's stated their intent on this point (very contrary to their old points on it), but it's valid.
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Re: Jab’s Builds! (Scarlet Witch! Quicksilver! Salem's Seven!)

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I liked that of the initial crew, no one except Patriot was actually a legacy of who they appeared to be. Iron Lad (Kang), Asgardian (Scarlet Witch), and Hulkling (Captain Marvel) all had more to them than just "junior version of big name," yet they riffed on the big names with Avengers legacies.
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Hulkling

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HULKLING (Dorrek VIII, aka Theodore "Teddy" Altman)
Created By:
Allan Heinberg & Jim Cheung
First Appearance: Young Avengers #1 (April 2005)
Role: Team Shapeshifter, Powerhouse
Group Affiliations: The Young Avengers, The Skrulls
PL 8 (115)
STRENGTH
9 STAMINA 9 AGILITY 3
FIGHTING 7 DEXTERITY 2
INTELLIGENCE 0 AWARENESS 1 PRESENCE 2

Skills:
Deception 4 (+6)
Insight 2 (+3)

Advantages:
Improved Hold, Ranged Attack 3

Powers:
"Skrull Physiology"
Morph 4 (Any Form) [20]
Concealment 1 (Detect True Shape) [1]
"Wings, Claws & Extended Limbs" Shapeshift 1 [8]
"Healing Factor, cuz some Skrulls can have them" Regeneration 4 [4]
Immunity 1 (Pheromone-Based Powers) [1]

Offense:
Unarmed +7 (+9 Damage, DC 24)
Initiative +3

Defenses:
Dodge +7 (DC 17), Parry +7 (DC 17), Toughness +9, Fortitude +9, Will +5

Complications:
Responsibility (Kree/Skrull Hybrid)- Teddy, despite being the product of two warring races (the humping of Mar-Vell with a Skrull Princess), is highly-desireable to both, as they both want him as a figurehead.
Relationship (Wiccan)- They're in wuv. You might not know this, because they totally don't talk about it every five panels.

Total: Abilities: 66 / Skills: 6--3 / Advantages: 4 / Powers: 34 / Defenses: 8 (115)

-Hulkling's name seems to be pretty much chosen to help justify the "Teen Avengers" concept by having the kids act like Legacy Heroes. Initially, he was supposed to be a girl shapeshifting as a dude to do "the closest thing to a gay character", but eventually they just went with him being homosexual because editor Tom Brevoort was like "dude, this is overly-complicated. Why not just make him gay?". Very quickly, Teddy Altman is told by the Super-Skrull that he's one of them, as is his mother... but they quickly figure out that he's only HALF-Skrull. Super-Skrull accidentally kills Teddy's mother when she swears that their Emperor told him to protect Teddy, and then drops another bombshell- that he is the child of Princess Anelle of the Skrulls... and the Kree hero Captain Mar-Vell! Marked for death by his grandfather, the baby is protected by a nurse, who smuggled him to Earth and raised him. Soon, Kree & Skrull soldiers alike arrive and start fighting, but Teddy comes up with a Persephone-style compromise- he will spend half the year with the Kree, and half with the Skrulls, and only then shall declare an allegiance. However, that "Teddy" is actually the Super-Skrull in disguise- Teddy remains on Earth.

-Hulkling is of course a founding member of the Young Avengers, and forms a relationship with Billy "Wiccan" Kaplan, becoming the first gay couple on a Marvel superhero team. This was initially meant to be subtle and revealed later, but apparently people figured it out right away. He allies with Captain America during Civil War, impersonating Hank Pym in one of their best offensive moves. During Secret Invasion, his lineage makes him a target of the Skrull Queen Veranke, but he is saved by Xavin, another heroic Skrull. The last major thing Wiccan & Hulkling did was appear on Sunspot's New Avengers team (written by Al Ewing) as early recruits. The book, clearly aping Joe Madureira's art style at first, featured the two facing down some super-powered Kree/Skrull hybrids while Sunspot had recruited them to his new Avengers team. The hybrids want Hulkling to serve as their Emperor, an evil Space Wizard possesses Wiccan, and the day is finally saved when they drive the Wizard out. They end the first arc with a triumphant kiss between the two boys... at which point this Avengers group splits up, and Ewing reshuffles the roster suddenly. I still have no idea what the point there was, other than "I had this team forced on me", or "I had a new idea and these characters didn't fit", but... they leave the book immediately and only show up later for a one-off. He later accepts his role as "Dorrek VIII", which could possibly cost him his relationship with Wiccan.

-I have absolutely no idea how strong or tough Hulkling is, just that he's apparently a bit of both and has some Regeneration, plus an Immunity to Daken's Powers.
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Re: Jab’s Builds! (Quicksilver! Salem's Seven! Wiccan!)

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I always thought naming two gay characters 'Ass-gardian' and 'Freedom Ring' was funny, also I know everyone calls him 'Rich' but we should be thankful that Nova isn't one of the suddenly gay characters.
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Re: Jab’s Builds! (Quicksilver! Salem's Seven! Wiccan!)

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I hate both Wiccan and Hulkling. I think their names are stupid (all 3 of them), their visual designs are boring (especially Hulkling), and because I don't like the character, I find Hulkling's backstory annoying (where I will admit the exact same story could have been put on a different character and I might have found it interesting).

Blech. Let's move on to Hawkeye.
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Re: Jab’s Builds! (Quicksilver! Salem's Seven! Wiccan!)

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M4C8 wrote: Tue Mar 24, 2020 5:12 pm I always thought naming two gay characters 'Ass-gardian' and 'Freedom Ring' was funny, also I know everyone calls him 'Rich' but we should be thankful that Nova isn't one of the suddenly gay characters.
Lol, right? That’d be like naming a trans or other sexual minority character something like SNOWFLAKE.

... nah, never mind. Ain’t nobody would do something THAT f*ckin’ dumb.
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Speed

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SPEED (Thomas "Tommy" Shepherd)
Created By:
Stan Lee & Jack Kirby
First Appearance: Young Avengers #10 (Feb. 2006)
Role: Speedster, Cocky Kid
Group Affiliations: The Young Avengers
PL 9 (147)
STRENGTH
4 STAMINA 4 AGILITY 4
FIGHTING 8/12 DEXTERITY 4
INTELLIGENCE 0 AWARENESS 0 PRESENCE 3

Skills:
Athletics 8 (+10)
Deception 3 (+6)
Expertise (Streetwise) 2 (+2)
Insight 2 (+2)
Perception 3 (+3)

Advantages:
Defensive Attack, Eidetic Memory, Ranged Attack 4

Powers:
"Mutant Powers: Super-Speed"
Speed 9 (1,000 mph) [9]
Quickness 12 [12]
Enhanced Advantages 4: Improved Initiative 4 [4]
Enhanced Fighting 4 [8]
Enhanced Dodge 4 [4]

Movement 1 (Water-Walking) (Flaws: Limited to While Running) [1]

"Vibrate Through Matter" Insubstantial 4 (Extras: Affects Others) (24) -- [26]
  • AE: "Directed Vibrations" Blast 8 (Extras: Penetrating) (24)
  • AE: "Whirlwind Thing" Move Object 8 (Extras: Area- 30ft. Line) (Flaws: Touch Range, Limited to Away) (8)
Offense:
Unarmed +12 (+4 Damage, DC 19)
Directed Vibrations +8 (+8 Damage, DC 23)
Initiative +4

Defenses:
Dodge +14 (DC 24), Parry +14 (DC 24), Toughness +4, Fortitude +6, Will +4

Complications:
Reputation (Juvenile Delinquent)- Tommy was discovered in a super-powered "Juvie" hall.

Total: Abilities: 54 / Skills: 18--9 / Advantages: 6 / Powers: 63 / Defenses: 14 (147)

-Recruited onto the team in the tenth issue of Young Avengers, Speed seems very inspired by Quicksilver, being a white-haired speedster... and we'd later find out why that was so obvious. The team recruits him using the same program that found them all, wanting a "recruitment drive" of sorts, and spring him from a "Super-Juvie", where he'd been locked up since "accidentally vaporizing" his school. It turns out that he's the reincarnation of one of Vision & Scarlet Witch's kids, making him the sorta-twin of his teammate Wiccan, which is why he looks like Wiccan & Quicksilver combined. He attempts a relationship with teammate Kate Bishop, and reveals a romantic past with enemy "Coat of Arms", but most of this doesn't go anywhere, and he's actually KILLED in the sixth issue of Kieron Gillen's Young Avengers sequel book (dissipated by a thief), but reappears nine issues later and rejoins the team before the book is cancelled. Far, FAR less important than any other member of the team, his bio is a third the length, as he never really seemed to do anything interesting, though Gillen seemed to feature him flirting with new teammate Prodigy, meaning the book would have had FOUR males with same-sex attraction, which is a pretty big coincidence for a squad like that.

-I'm not entirely sure on Speed's other Speed Feats beyond "Vibrating Through Stuff" (which you'd figure would be more akin to a Flash-Level Feat, not a Quicksilver-Level Feat), but "Speed" is an awesome name for a Speedster Hero, though- quick, evocative and descriptive, all at the same time.
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M4C8 wrote: Tue Mar 24, 2020 5:12 pm I always thought naming two gay characters 'Ass-gardian' and 'Freedom Ring' was funny, also I know everyone calls him 'Rich' but we should be thankful that Nova isn't one of the suddenly gay characters.
My headcanon is that he didn't even think about it until someone cracked a joke about it whereupon he cursed flatly as realization dawned on him.
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My guess is that Speed's ability to pass through objects is actually inherited from his father, rather than a speed trick. And before you say it, magic.
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Jabroniville wrote: Tue Mar 24, 2020 7:47 pm
M4C8 wrote: Tue Mar 24, 2020 5:12 pm I always thought naming two gay characters 'Ass-gardian' and 'Freedom Ring' was funny, also I know everyone calls him 'Rich' but we should be thankful that Nova isn't one of the suddenly gay characters.
Lol, right? That’d be like naming a trans or other sexual minority character something like SNOWFLAKE.

... nah, never mind. Ain’t nobody would do something THAT f*cmon’ dumb.
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Speed is my favourite member of the YA's but I couldn't tell you why. I liked the sibling-like relationship he had with Molly Hayes, it's a shame it's never been revisited.
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