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Davies wrote: Wed Jan 13, 2021 8:55 pm I'd actually use the Scientist archetype over the Bystander one, for her.

In the no-longer-current continuity, Julia was reported as having recently passed away.
I'd do the same as you Davies and make Julia a Scientist instead. You could explain it away as her getting involved in while trying to help her daughter.
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One of the screwier things that happened with the post-Crisis Wonder Woman... She's in Boston, and has friends Julia and Vanessa Kapatelis. Julia is an archaeologist; Vanessa is her teenaged daughter. Then, suddenly, Diana moves across country to... Gateway City?!? (which has somehow been moved from its proper location on the banks of the Mississippi River to the California Coast) to move in with Helena Sandsmark, archaeologist and her teenaged daughter, Cassie.

It never made sense. My best guess is Byrne needed new characters since his same-face syndrome made drawing Perez's Kapatelis characters impossible.

And then Cassie is turned into Wonder Girl III, but Nessie is turned into Silver Swan III. Sorry, no normal teens allowed.
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ANGLE MAN (Angelo Bend)
Created By:
Robert Kanigher & Harry G. Peter
First Appearance: Wonder Woman #70 (Nov. 1954)
Role: Teleporter, Background Villain
Group Affiliations: The Secret Society of Super-Villains, Devastation
PL 8 (138)
STRENGTH
3 STAMINA 4 AGILITY 4
FIGHTING 10 DEXTERITY 4
INTELLIGENCE 2 AWARENESS 2 PRESENCE 2

Skills:
Acrobatics 7 (+11)
Athletics 7 (+8)
Close Combat (Angler) 1 (+11)
Deception 6 (+8)
Expertise (Thief) 8 (+10)
Insight 3 (+5)
Intimidation 4 (+6)
Perception 6 (+8)
Stealth 4 (+8)
Technology 2 (+4)

Advantages:
Equipment 2 (Thieving Gear), Evasion, Improved Defense, Ranged Attack 2, Uncanny Dodge

Powers:
"Angler" (Flaws: Easily Removable) [33]
Teleport 10 (Feats: Change Direction & Velocity) (Extras: Extended, Accurate, Easy) (52) -- (55 points)
  • AE: "Alter Objects" Transform 6 (Anything to Anything Else) (30)
  • AE: Movement 6 (Dimensional Travel 3, Space Travel 3) (12)
  • AE: "Stab With Angler" Strength-Damage +2 (2)
Offense:
Unarmed +10 (+3 Damage, DC 18)
Angler +11 (+5 Damage, DC 20)
Initiative +4

Defenses:
Dodge +11 (DC 21), Parry +11 (DC 21), Toughness +4, Fortitude +6, Will +4

Complications:
Motivation (Greed)

Total: Abilities: 62 / Skills: 48--24 / Advantages: 7 / Powers: 33 / Defenses: 12 (138)

-Angle Man was a Comedy Villain introduced back in the 1950s, being an unsuccessful criminal who was obsessed with finding the perfect crime with an "unbeatable angle". And so he created a lot of various schemes, annoying Wonder Woman, but then showed up one day, decades later, with a weapon called The Angler, a "Penrose triangle" that could warp time and space. This was a gift from Darkseid, who wanted him to be part of the Secret Society of Super-Villains. Unfortunately, the character was killed off in a random epilogue panel of Crisis on Infinite Earths #12, simply because Marv Wolfman thought the character was stupid and was wiping out some loose ends in the rebooted continuity. His end is pretty ignominious- he was trying to use his Angler during the dimensional upheavals of the Crisis, and it immolated him.

-The character is not a thing Post-Crisis save for a random cameo in The Flash (he doesn't do anything, but his gear is taken) until Phil Jiminez's late '90s WW run, where he is revamped as Angelo Bend, an Italian master "gentleman thief" who always struck me as Phil's idealized, heterosexual version of himself. He uses his Angler to escape authorities, and is opposed by Donna Troy, upon whom he develops a crush. He is shown among the mourners at her funeral when she's killed at the end of the Titans comic. Later, he reappears written as an obsessive and dangerous killer- he "murders" Catwoman when she infiltrates the Society, but this is revealed to be a disguised Clayface helping her out, and she savagely beats Angelo with a baseball bat. He now suddenly becomes a Catwoman villain, hunting Selina Kyle in an obsessive desire for revenge. She gets Zatanna's help and they beat him up and get him imprisoned. Next, he's a random ally of Circe's in another Anti-WW group, and is beaten by Robin when other heroes arrive to help. So all in all, he's kind of a goofy guy who got randomly turned into a smooth gentleman thief, then randomly turned into a violent killer. Just one of those things in comics.

-In any case, I built him up as a loser who could Teleport and Transform objects using the Angler. Or just stab guys with it. He's not that great, though- about PL 7.5 overall.
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Jabroniville wrote: Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:35 amwhen she's killed at the end of the Titans comic. Later, he reappears written as an obsessive and dangerous killer
Ah, Titans/Young Justice: Graduation Day the beginning of the Radium Age at DC.
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CIRCE (aka Donna Milton)
Created By:
Robert Kanigher & Harry G. Peter
First Appearance: Wonder Woman #37 (Sept. 1949)
Role: The Manipulator, Evil Witch
Group Affiliations: The Injustice Gang
PL 12 (271)
STRENGTH
3/12 STAMINA 6/12 AGILITY 4
FIGHTING 10 DEXTERITY 5
INTELLIGENCE 4 AWARENESS 5 PRESENCE 5

Skills:
Deception 5 (+10, +15 Attractive)
Expertise (Magic) 12 (+16)
Expertise (History) 10 (+14)
Expertise (Law) 6 (+10)
Insight 4 (+9)
Intimidation 1 (+6)
Perception 5 (+10)
Persuasion 5 (+10, +15 Attractive)
Ranged Combat (Magic) 4 (+12)

Advantages:
Attractive 2, Daze (Deception), Fascination (Deception), Power Attack, Ranged Attack 3, Ritualist

Powers:
"Immortal Goddess" Immunity 3 (Aging, Disease, Poison) [3]
"Bestiamorphing" Affliction 12 (Toughness; Dazed/Stunned/Transformed to Animal Form) (Extras: Ranged, Continuous +3) [60]

"Transform Herself"
Enhanced Strength 9 [18]
Enhanced Stamina 6 [12]

"Siren Song" Mind Control 12 (Extras: Area- Hearing Perception) (Flaws: Touch Range -2, Limited to Men) (36) -- [39]
  • AE: "Brainwashing" Affliction 12 (Will; Entranced/Compelled/Transformed Memories & Thoughts) (Extras: Progressive +2) (36)
  • AE: "Purple Fire" Blast 12 (Extras: Penetrating 10) (34)
  • AE: Illusions (Visual & Hearing) 12 (36)
"The Mirror of Circe" (Flaws: Easily Removable) [9]
Morph 3 (Any Person) (15 points)

Offense:
Unarmed +10 (+3 Damage, DC 18)
Enhanced Strength +12 (+8 Damage, DC 23)
Purple Fire +12 (+12 Ranged Damage, DC 27)
Illusions -- (DC 12)
Brainwashing +10 (+12 Affliction, DC 27)
Bestiamorphing +12 (+12 Ranged Affliction, DC 27)
Initiative +10

Defenses:
Dodge +10 (DC 20), Parry +10 (DC 20), Toughness +6 (+12 Enhanced), Fortitude +8 (+14 Enhanced), Will +10

Complications:
Motivation (Power)- Circe consistently schemes for more and more power.
Enemy (Wonder Woman)- Circe understands a warning from Hecate to mean that Diana (named for the Moon Goddess) will replace her. This has led to a huge feud spanning years.
Relationship (Lyta- Daughter)- Circe has a daughter with the god Ares, and she is the one person she seems to authentically care for. Threats to her will result in her bailing quickly.
Weakness (Moly Herb)- Moly will weaken Circe's spells.

Total: Abilities: 84 / Skills: 52--26 / Advantages: 9 / Powers: 141 / Defenses: 11 (271)

Circe- Wonder Woman's Arch-Villain?:
-One of the few "Main Event Villains" Wonder Woman has is in the "Lex Luthor/Doctor Doom" mold of "the villain who can show up nearly every issue"- Circe is the witch from Greek Mythology, famous for imprisoning Odysseus in The Oddysey and transforming mortal men into animals. Being a famous character in pop culture, she shows up in a 1949 issue as a blonde (long-imprisoned in space by Queen Hippolyte), and as a redhead in a Rip Hunter story ten years later, then vexes Superman, Supergirl (where she is responsible for creating Comet the Super-Horse) and Lois Lane (the latter in Superman's Girl Friend, Lois Lane). She also fights the Sea Devils, then finally meets Wonder Woman again in 1982, becoming a recurring foe once more. But it's the George Perez version, with incredibly curly (of course) violet hair, that has since become the iconic "take" on the character, as Perez turned her into a manipulator from behind the scenes.

-So this new Circe is a red-eyed, violet-haired, Hecate-worshipping enchantress who can control minds and turn people into "Bestiamorphs"- animal-people. Her powers came from Hecate herself- the Goddess of Witchcraft felt rebuffed by the Olympians, and offered her soul and powers to her most devoted follower in Circe. When the hard-travelling hero Odysseus shipwrecked on her island, Circe took him as a lover, bearing him three sons: Agrius, Latinus, and Telegonus. Eventually, however, he bailed back to his wife. Finally, in modern times, the immortal sorceress discovers Diana's existence, and believes that an old prophecy of Hecate's, that someone associated with the Moon (Diana shares a name with the Moon Goddess) will kill her and absorb Hecate's soul and powers. This creates a pretty one-sided feud, as Diana of course has no intentions of doing that.

Circe's Story Arcs:
-Circe is central to the "War of the Gods" story-arc, pitting various pantheons against each other so that she can take their power. She manipulates the Amazons of Bana-Migdhall and tries to paint the Amazons as terrorists, and even kills Hermes before temporarily devolving Diana back to the clay from which she was sculpted. Earth's heroes finally banded together, defeated the Greek & Roman Gods (confusingly, they were separate here), and The Spectre, Phantom Stranger & Deadman returned Diana to life. Donna Troy opened a portal to the Titans of Myth, and Hecate's soul was forced from Circe's body, causing her to crumble to dust. Hecate was destroyed by the Lasso of Truth.

-Circe of course returned with no explanation, aiding the Amazons of Bana-Migdhall again after they lost their Egyptian City to the Olympian pantheon and sought revenge. However, Circe promptly betrayed them by sending Themyscira to another dimension, one full of demons. A horrified Diana discovered this and won a bet with Circe, thus forcing her to return the island. Later, Circe disguised herself as mortal lawyer Donna Milton, casting a spell so good it even convinced HER she was Donna (a way to avoid the Lasso of Truth forcing her to confess)- she was the personal lawyer to a mob boss who was actually a disguised Ares, and she became his lover and even the mother of his child! "Donna" actually became friends with Diana, and bore Lyta Milton soon thereafter, but when Diana figured things out, this shocked Donna into remembering her true self. Still holding onto "Donna's" memories, she tried to help Diana & Artemis against the demon-powered White Magician, but she used the last of her power to teleport the Magician's allies away from the field of battle, dying in the process.

Circe in the Late '90s & 2000s:
-Circe later made a Faustian deal with Neron, selling her soul in exchange for increased powers, and joined Lex Luthor's Injustice Gang (though Plastic Man befuddled her since he could easily transform out of any animal she turned him into). Luthor then humiliated her by turning down her offer of a business and romantic relationship, but she rebounded with the male Cheetah, and helped him turn Vanessa Kapatelis into the Silver Swan. She tries to take over New York City after the Imperiex attacks, and transforms all of the Non-Shapeshifting male superheroes into Bestiamorphs (imprisoning the rest), as well as Lex Luthor (for the aforementioned rejection). When the superheroines opposed her, she convinced many super-villainesses to help out, creating a huge brawl- a mind-controlled Superman fighting Diana. One of Circe's weaknesses (to moly herb) broke her enchantments, however, and Diana broke Superman's spell with her Lasso. She taunted Diana & Donna Troy by pretending to be Hippolyta in their dreams, but Diana tracked her down and beat her on live TV- she tried to goad Diana into killing her, but the heroine refused. She resurrected Medusa as a WW foe, then actually became the consort of Ares, and they both decided to raise Lyta.

-After "One Year Later", Circe reappears boosting the powers of WW's Rogues Gallery, then steals Diana's powers herself! She believes she's doing this to avenge "wronged women" that Diana "had no interest in helping" or whatever. She immediately starts acting like an edgelord antihero, killing slave-traders in various cities across the world. Diana eventually regains them, but then Circe empowers other baddies and resurrects Queen Hippolyta to serve her needs, convincing her to attack Washington, DC. Hippolyta critically-wounds the villainess with a spear to the chest. She is last seen being sent to Hades' realm, as punishment for this whole scene- she declares it's because the Gods had her daughter Lyta taken from her. She doesn't reappear in that continuity again, instead showing up in the "Rebirth" era as a recurring foe once again.

-Circe ends up being one of Diana's biggest and best threats- a well-rounded villain who manipulates, plots and schemes, and can use a different sort of power-set to vex Wonder Woman.

Circe's Power:
-Circe is a very powerful sorceress, and can use her powers to temporarily hit PL 11-12 in a fight with Wonder Woman, but is also a great schemer with a lot of skills.
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Unfortunately, Circe suffers from the same issues that Lex Luthor, Joker, Doctor Doom & The Green Goblin have: Overexposure. The fact that she's such a well-known foe of WW's means that every writer after Ol' George wanted to make her a central villian in their Story Arch's. That honestly diminished the character's overall value imho.
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MacynSnow wrote: Thu Jan 14, 2021 6:39 am Unfortunately, Circe suffers from the same issues that Lex Luthor, Joker, Doctor Doom & The Green Goblin have: Overexposure. The fact that she's such a well-known foe of WW's means that every writer after Ol' George wanted to make her a central villian in their Story Arch's. That honestly diminished the character's overall value imho.
She suffers a lot from the syndrome that afflicts WW as well- every new writer comes on and has THEIR "Circe Story", and yet they're almost afraid to make her the central point since they know she's not a real A-lister, so she ends up being this oddly-recurring second-tier villainess with no credibility or even a "big story" to her name.
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Jabroniville wrote: Thu Jan 14, 2021 7:51 am
MacynSnow wrote: Thu Jan 14, 2021 6:39 am Unfortunately, Circe suffers from the same issues that Lex Luthor, Joker, Doctor Doom & The Green Goblin have: Overexposure. The fact that she's such a well-known foe of WW's means that every writer after Ol' George wanted to make her a central villian in their Story Arch's. That honestly diminished the character's overall value imho.
She suffers a lot from the syndrome that afflicts WW as well- every new writer comes on and has THEIR "Circe Story", and yet they're almost afraid to make her the central point since they know she's not a real A-lister, so she ends up being this oddly-recurring second-tier villainess with no credibility or even a "big story" to her name.
Agreed. It's the same issue you brought up with the Cheetah, Giganta, and Silver Swan-there have been multiple versions of each villain, and seemingly every other writer who comes on the title decides on almost entirely different backgrounds, motivations, and personalities for them. Is the modern Giganta a brilliant scientist? Or not the brightest bulb? Semi-reformed? Or a sociopath? What's her costume? Changes from one creative team to the next. Circe's goals are likewise all over the place since Perez's run. Of course, Diana herself has suffered massively from this over the years, and cycled through personalities and back stories rapidly since the New 52 launch over a decade ago.

Now, nearly ALL really long-running comics characters have changed dramatically over the decades-look at how many incarnations of Lex Luthor there have been. But in most instances, a single interpretation held sway for years, SLOWLY changing over time (Luthor going from criminal arms dealer/syndicate leader to evil super-scientist to costumed villain), with the exception being the post-COIE event which was DC's initial big reset (Luthor as sociopathic billionaire industrialist). The original Cheetah was a thing for a few WWII era appearances, got forgotten about, popped up in the 1970s Challenge of the Super-Friend cartoon, got killed off for real and replaced with a totally obscure Bronze Age replacement, then a whole new villain was created in the late 1980s series, who was replaced for a while by a male version, then brought back, and finally re-booted during DC Rebirth. So yeah...not much chance to achieve iconic villain status. At least Cap has the Red Skull, who's remained a Nazi rat-bastard for about eighty years, with a few blips here and there.

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The Circe arc is one of the funnier parts of the Odyssey. After turning all of his men into pigs, being defeated and turning them back, Circe offers herself to Odysseus and her household of sexy servants to his crew. They then spend the next YEAR hanging out with her, in spite of supposedly being in a hurry to get back home after being away at war for over a decade.

As for the ever-changing villains, it seems to me that they keep changing because none of the incarnations have been good enough to take hold. If someone wrote a Circe arc that made you say "Now THAT was a good story" the next writer wouldn't feel so compelled to come up with a new take on the character.
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The "War of the Gods" storyline was such an awesome idea with such a meh execution. All of the various pantheons of Earth going to war in this massive free-for-all, being manipulated by this powerful enchantress whose soul is bound to a goddess of magic that felt snubbed by the gods in general, the Olympians in particular, the various mystical and mythological heroes having to step up to get involved, it should have been amazing.

Unfortunately, in much the same way that Marvel really only has the Norse pantheon really fleshed out (with the Olympians getting some token appearances here and there outside of Hercules), DC only really had the Olympians fleshed out, so the other pantheons just seemed to appear out of nowhere. If DC had been smart about it, they would have set things up in advance, having mythological figures pop up in the years proceeding the event, flesh out the other pantheons, do some foreshadowing, etc. I hate Infinite Crisis as a whole, but I will give it credit that they at least gave it a lot of set up.

The "War" itself was also pretty lackluster, as it basically amounted to the Greek and Roman Olympians being considered separate pantheons and going to war with each other, and just fighting on Mt. Olympus the entire time. As opposed to, say, the Norse Pantheon invading the Chinese Celestial Courts, the Egyptian pantheon attacking the Olympians, the old Aztec Lovecraftian gods rising up and attacking everyone, etc.
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Ares wrote: Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:42 pm The "War of the Gods" storyline was such an awesome idea with such a meh execution. All of the various pantheons of Earth going to war in this massive free-for-all, being manipulated by this powerful enchantress whose soul is bound to a goddess of magic that felt snubbed by the gods in general, the Olympians in particular, the various mystical and mythological heroes having to step up to get involved, it should have been amazing.

Unfortunately, in much the same way that Marvel really only has the Norse pantheon really fleshed out (with the Olympians getting some token appearances here and there outside of Hercules), DC only really had the Olympians fleshed out, so the other pantheons just seemed to appear out of nowhere. If DC had been smart about it, they would have set things up in advance, having mythological figures pop up in the years proceeding the event, flesh out the other pantheons, do some foreshadowing, etc.
This is where I think a pre-Christian era Black Adam story would have been perfect. A powerful character like that with supersonic flight and a lot of time on his hands is eventually going to explore the world, which could open up the possibility of encountering god-like beings and pantheon-level groups in other countries, setting up their existence in the DC universe. You could have had a war, or maybe just small skirmishes leading to agreements of non-interference, possibly leading to some kind of formal compact with all or most of the existing pantheons.
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Circe doesn't really need an overhaul, but the Angle Man is another one I'd revamp. Sticking with his original idea of looking for "an angle," he'd get frustrated dealing with superhuman and stumble into some Lovecraftian magic and computational demonology ending with him getting his Angler in exchange for becoming a disciple of the Many-Angled Ones.

Given that, he might not survive long enough to become much of a recurring nemesis.
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Jack of Spades wrote: Thu Jan 14, 2021 6:05 pm Circe doesn't really need an overhaul, but the Angle Man is another one I'd revamp. Sticking with his original idea of looking for "an angle," he'd get frustrated dealing with superhuman and stumble into some Lovecraftian magic and computational demonology ending with him getting his Angler in exchange for becoming a disciple of the Many-Angled Ones.
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DECAY II
Created By:
George Perez
First Appearance: Wonder Woman #3 (April 1987)
Role: One-Off Threat
Group Affiliations: None
PL 12 (189)
STRENGTH
8 STAMINA 14 AGILITY 4
FIGHTING 10 DEXTERITY 4
INTELLIGENCE 0 AWARENESS 0 PRESENCE -1

Skills:
Intimidation 10 (+9)
Perception 6 (+6)

Advantages:
All-Out Attack, Fast Grab, Great Endurance, Improved Initiative, Startle

Powers:
"Decaying Touch" Affliction 12 (Fort; Fatigued & Impaired/Exhausted & Defenseless/Incapacitated & Transformed to Older) (Extras: Extra Condition, Cumulative, Continuous +3) [72]
Flight 7 (250 mph) [14]

Offense:
Unarmed +10 (+8 Damage, DC 23)
Decaying Touch +10 (+12 Affliction, DC 22)
Initiative +8

Defenses:
Dodge +10 (DC 20), Parry +10 (DC 20), Toughness +14, Fortitude +14, Will +6

Complications:
Enemy (Wonder Woman)
Weakness (Gaea's Power)- Rejuvenating effects, such as the touch of Gaea (or an equivalent), are deadly to Decay.

Total: Abilities: 78 / Skills: 16--8 / Advantages: 5 / Powers: 86 / Defenses: 12 (189)

-The second Decay (the first is a Supergirl villain debuting in 1982) was a very early villain in the George Perez run on Wonder Woman. She was created by Phobos, who sought to curry favor with his father Ares by constructing a statuette from the "malevolent matter scoured from Medusa's heart" and had it delivered to the home of Vanessa Kapatelis, her "human buddy". Vanessa was aged decades the second the statue came to life and touched her, and Diana had to engage in a huge battle, being aged as well. Finally, she lassoed the monster and the renewing power of Gaea overwhelmed Decay and she exploded- the aging effects were quickly reversed via the Lasso & some magical ointment. The character returned around when Doomsday debuted, being resurrected in shell-form by a Dr. Lazarus, but she was shattered.

-Decay is a rarely-appearing creature, but is define by extreme durability and a very lethal "Aging Touch" effect that can even bring Wonder Woman a bit low. She's PL 11 offensively and PL 12 defensively.
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TREVOR BARNES
Created By:
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First Appearance: Wonder Woman #170 (July 2001)
Role: Temporary Love Interest
Group Affiliations: None

-This was such a weird bit. Trevor showed up in the Wonder Woman issue where Lois Lane interviewed Diana, conflicted about the various dichotomies at the heart of the character and her worldview. It was one of the better issues of Phil's run, though featured a bit of "Tell, Don't Show" with stuff about how Diana is "Hysterical" with jokes (we see a panel of them laughing instead of Diana, who is usually extremely serious, actually saying anything funny). Part of the story featured Diana doing like 900 side-jobs and focusing on all the good she does in roles as mentor, with Lois narrating everything, until she's at the UN and suddenly runs off (Lois says she's like a "nervous schoolgirl" at this part) to go ask this handsome black dude with killer early-2000s hair out on a date. But then he's like "I'm afraid I'll have to say NO" with the most hilariously horrified reaction on Diana's face, as Lois goes "holy #@&%". It's not explained why he did this as they immediately switch scenes to Diana's gay coworkers at an AIDS fundraiser going "he's gay".

-Eventually, however, the two seem to date casually. Turns out Trevor's Mister Charity and runs all sorts of fundraisers. His initial rejection was I guess because he felt she was out of his league. The two end up in Skartaris for an arc, and decide to "remain friends", but then he's killed off by the next creative team because they had no plans for him. He's possessed by some ancient god and willingly dies to stop it. So this character gets this big introduction and he's dead within two years' time. Kind of a waste.
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