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Re: The Mole Man

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Ken wrote: Sat Jan 30, 2021 4:26 am Maybe Mole Man was using Power Attack since Simon was letting himself get hit.
Simon's also kind of a weakling in the '80s & early '90s. He's been easily defeated by the Wizard and got KO'd by JAWBREAKER of the Pacific Overlords.

My version of Wonder Man is Toughness +15. A DC 23 blast will cause him to fail his save almost 50% of the time, and that just increases as he keeps getting hit. He never seems much more than Bruised that entire time.
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Boulder

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BOULDER I (Real Name Unknown)
Created By:
Mark Gruenwald & Herb Trimpe
First Appearance: Marvel Treasury Edition #25 (1980)
Role: Jobber Villain, Elementalist
Group Affiliations: The Outcasts
PL 7 (74)
STRENGTH
7 STAMINA 7 AGILITY 2
FIGHTING 7 DEXTERITY 2
INTELLIGENCE 0 AWARENESS 1 PRESENCE -1

Skills:
Athletics 4 (+4)
Deception 2 (+1)
Expertise (Subeterranean) 6 (+6)
Insight 2 (+3)
Perception 2 (+3)

Advantages:
Fast Grab, Improved Critical (Unarmed), Improved Hold, Ranged Attack 5

Offense:
Unarmed +7 (+7 Damage, DC 22)
Initiative +2

Defenses:
Dodge +7 (DC 17), Parry +8 (DC 18), Toughness +4, Fortitude +8, Will +2

Complications:
Motivation (Protection)- One of the Mole Man's people, Boulder feels the need to protect Subterranea.
Responsibility (The Mole Man)- As the ruler of all Subterranea, the Mole Man has total power over The Outcasts.
Disabled (Bright Lights)- Living in Subterranea, the Outcasts are extremely sensitive to bright lights, and can be easily disabled if their hoods are taken off. Unless the artist forgets to draw them on.

Total: Abilities: 50 / Skills: 16--8 / Advantages: 8 / Powers: 0 / Defenses: 8 (74)

-Boulder is the strongest member of the Outcasts, but still a poor PL 7 character. He was a big fan of the bear hug, according to Marvunapp, and was a famed rock-thrower.
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Landslide (Outcasts)

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LANDSLIDE I (Real Name Unknown)
Created By:
Mark Gruenwald & Herb Trimpe
First Appearance: Marvel Treasury Edition #25 (1980)
Role: Jobber Villain, Elementalist
Group Affiliations: The Outcasts
PL 8 (70)
STRENGTH
0 STAMINA 2 AGILITY 2
FIGHTING 5 DEXTERITY 2
INTELLIGENCE 0 AWARENESS 1 PRESENCE -1

Skills:
Athletics 4 (+4)
Deception 3 (+2)
Expertise (Subeterranean) 6 (+6)
Insight 2 (+3)
Perception 2 (+3)
Persuasion 3 (+2)

Advantages:
Ranged Attack 2

Powers:
"Earthquake" Damage 8 (Extras: Area- 60ft. Burst +2) (Flaws: Limited to Grounded Targets) Linked to Affliction 8 (Dodge; Hindered/Prone) (Extras: Ranged, Area- 60ft. Burst +2) (Flaws: Limited Degree, Instant Recovery, Limited to Grounded Targets) (24) -- [25]
  • AE: "Vibratory Touch" Damage 8 (8)
Offense:
Unarmed +5 (+0 Damage, DC 15)
Vibratory Touch +5 (+8 Damage, DC 23)
Earthquake +8 Area (+8 Damage & Affliction, DC 23 & 18)
Initiative +2

Defenses:
Dodge +8 (DC 18), Parry +7 (DC 17), Toughness +2, Fortitude +4, Will +2

Complications:
Motivation (Protection)- One of the Mole Man's people, Landslide feels the need to protect Subterranea.
Responsibility (The Mole Man)- As the ruler of all Subterranea, the Mole Man has total power over The Outcasts.
Disabled (Bright Lights)- Living in Subterranea, the Outcasts are extremely sensitive to bright lights, and can be easily disabled if their hoods are taken off. Unless the artist forgets to draw them on.
Responsibility (Pacifist)- Landslide always seeks a non-violent option first.

Total: Abilities: 22 / Skills: 20--10 / Advantages: 2 / Powers: 25 / Defenses: 11 (70)

-Landslide is a pointy-eared pacifist member of the Outcasts, and actually did a solo mission at one point. In the Hulk's book, Landslide was sent to investigate a series of earthquakes that turned out to be caused by Avalanche, who was using his mutant powers to hold the state of California hostage. Landslide & Avalanche fought each other, then then Hulk joined to make it a three-way battle- Avalanche was drawing pretty evently with Landslide, but whipped off his hood, blinding him- he shattered his own arms trying to use his powers against the super-durable Hulk. Landslide later reappeared with the others.

-Being able to draw pretty evenly with Avalanche for a bit, Landslide is a PL higher than his allies, but is still a pretty big wimp and would fall easily against most serious combatants.
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Re: Kala

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brothersale wrote: Sat Jan 30, 2021 12:11 am
Jabroniville wrote: Fri Jan 29, 2021 8:31 pm -Later on, she appears heading towards a wedding to the Mole Man, with the Thing as her unwitting escort, and Ben discovers that they're planning to destroy the surface world- ultimately, she betrays the Mole Man, but he confesses to still being in love with her. She & Tyrannus capture him and plan to destroy the surface world with volcanic eruptions, but Tyrannus betrays her in turn, imprisoning Kala. Desiring sole rulership of the world, Tyrannus is beaten by the Fantastic Four. Kala later wars against the Mole Man, but marries him "out of desperation" in order to save her kingdom. Later, she goes to the surface world to get Tony Stark and Iron Man (back when the world didn't know they were the same man) to help the Mole Man fight the Deviants- she finally finds that she loves the Mole Man, nearly sacrificing herself to save his life! A couple years later, an FF one-off has him trying to restorer her in a "Rejuvenator" tank, which explodes, leaving their fates unrevealed... but she hasn't appeared since the very early 1990s, and has gone unmentioned since then. Clearly the following writers forgot about her.
She has appeared after that point ((Fantastic Four: Wedding Special #1) where she attacked Alicia at her bachelorette party under the moniker of "Mole Woman." Her aim was that no foe of her beloved mole man would be able to marry and find happiness before she was able to. The assault ended when mole man interupted it, rejecting her once more.
Oh, I forgot about that. My issues of the current run are all kinda in a pile so I didn't go through them again. That isn't listed on Wikipedia or even Marvunapp!
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Re: The Puppet Master

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Jabroniville wrote: Thu Jan 28, 2021 10:53 am Image

The long eyelashes have always weirded me out. That's such an odd visual quirk to throw on a character.
I don't have a statement of intent I can quote or anything, but I'm positive the eyelashes are to make the Puppet Master look like a puppet himself. You can see that blush on his cheeks in the first picture, too. Alicia's probably lucky there isn't too much of a family resemblance.

(Although Harley Quinn did make something similar work)
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Re: Kala

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Jabroniville wrote: Sat Jan 30, 2021 6:22 am
Oh, I forgot about that. My issues of the current run are all kinda in a pile so I didn't go through them again. That isn't listed on Wikipedia or even Marvunapp!
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its on the marvel wiki https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Marvel_Database
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Re: The Puppet Master

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RainOnTheSun wrote: Sat Jan 30, 2021 9:24 am
Jabroniville wrote: Thu Jan 28, 2021 10:53 am Image

The long eyelashes have always weirded me out. That's such an odd visual quirk to throw on a character.
I don't have a statement of intent I can quote or anything, but I'm positive the eyelashes are to make the Puppet Master look like a puppet himself. You can see that blush on his cheeks in the first picture, too. Alicia's probably lucky there isn't too much of a family resemblance.

(Although Harley Quinn did make something similar work)
He's Alicia's stepfather so there wouldn't be any resemblance.
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Re: The Puppet Master

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RainOnTheSun wrote: Sat Jan 30, 2021 9:24 am
Jabroniville wrote: Thu Jan 28, 2021 10:53 am
The long eyelashes have always weirded me out. That's such an odd visual quirk to throw on a character.
I don't have a statement of intent I can quote or anything, but I'm positive the eyelashes are to make the Puppet Master look like a puppet himself. You can see that blush on his cheeks in the first picture, too. Alicia's probably lucky there isn't too much of a family resemblance.

(Although Harley Quinn did make something similar work)
ahhhhh- that makes sense. I don't recall puppets having long eyelashes, but in the '60s, yeah.
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The Red Ghost

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THE RED GHOST (Igor Kragoff)
Created By:
Stan Lee & Jack Kirby
First Appearance: The Fantastic Four #13 (April 1963)
Role: Evil Counterpart (to Reed Richards), Evil Communist
Group Affiliations: The Super-Apes, The Intelligencia
PL 7 (176)
STRENGTH
1 STAMINA 3 AGILITY 2
FIGHTING 8 DEXTERITY 4
INTELLIGENCE 8 AWARENESS 3 PRESENCE 2

Skills:
Deception 7 (+9)
Expertise (Animal Handling) 4 (+6)
Expertise (Science) 7 (+15)
Expertise (Communist) 5 (+13)
Insight 4 (+7)
Intimidation 5 (+7)
Perception 5 (+8)
Technology 8 (+16)
Treatment 1 (+9)
Vehicles 8 (+10)

Advantages:
Daze (Deception), Equipment 8 (Various Tech), Power Attack, Ranged Attack 4, Set-Up, Teamwork

Powers:
"Cosmic Radiation Powers"
Insubstantial 4 (Feats: Selective) (Extras: Attack, Ranged) [29]
"Air-Walking" Flight 1 (4 mph) (Feats: Subtle) (Flaws: Limited to While Phased) [2]
Immunity 4 (Drowning, Suffocation, Thirst & Starvation) (Flaws: Limited to While Phased) [2]
"Invisibility" Concealment 4 (All Visual Senses) [8]

"Leave Object Inside Something" Damage 8 (Feats: Penetrating 8) (Extras: Affects Corporeal) (Flaws: Limited to Size of the Object) (Inaccurate -1) [15]

Offense:
Unarmed +8 (+1 Damage, 16)
Leaving Objects +6 (+8 Damage, DC 23)
Laser Blaster or Something +8 (+6 Ranged Damage, DC 21)
Initiative +2

Defenses:
Dodge +10 (DC 20), Parry +10 (DC 20), Toughness +3, Fortitude +6, Will +5

Complications:
Motivation (Ego, Power)

Total: Abilities: 62 / Skills: 54--27 / Advantages: 16 / Powers: 56 / Defenses: 15 (176)

-The Red Ghost is a rarely-seen villain, and a total relic of the Silver Age. I mean, a Red Communist in a parka (using a "Jack Kirby is Half-Assing It" Ugly Scientist Face) who leads a team of super-powered Apes? How is that NOT dated as all hell? That same datedness is what made him a relatively minor villain during the past dozens of years, but could easily lead to a big comeback now that it's kind of kitzchy to have something so blatantly "Sixties" in a modern comic book. It hasn't quite taken, despite a more recent appearance in Fantastic Four, though.

-The Ghost himself is an evil Commie scientist who saw Mr. Fantastic's voyage into space and copied it, giving he and his apes (apes & monkeys were often used in tests for Outer Space travel, as most everyone should know) superhuman powers, with which he decided to... I dunno, kick some ass and stuff. It's actually kinda funny that it's that easy to deliberately gain great super-powers in this manner. In any case, they and the Four engaged in a battle for "supremacy of the Moon" (remember, this is before Americans ACTUALLY landed on it), and the Four lost at first, but the Super-Apes rebelled when Sue gave them the food the Ghost had been keeping from them in order to get them to do his bidding. He eventually returned to Earth after repeatedly trying to steal the Watcher's secrets, and was booted from the Soviet Union for his failure.

-He was really kind of a Mr. Fantastic wannabe (in an era where nearly EVERY major threat to the team was a Mr. Fantastic wannabe), was pretty good at science himself, and didn't have too much success overall. He just kind of popped up between major arcs here or there, threatening the team (sometimes with the Apes, sometimes without). He and the Mad Thinker teamed up against the Avengers once, with Attuma against the Defenders, and with the Unicorn against Iron Man- here, he was turned into a permanently-intangible "ghost" after using a weapon to give two new apes (Alpha & Beta) some powers. He regained them after stowing away on Reed Richards's ship, and re-teamed with the Super-Apes, fighting Spider-Man, the Soviet Super-Soldiers, Quasar (during Acts of Vengeance), and Power Pack on separate occasions.

-Later, the Super-Apes gained advanced intelligence and the Red Ghost lost his, but he recovered and joined the anti-Hulk "Intelligencia", replacing Mikhlo (who had been killed by the Red Hulk) with a super-strong baby gorilla named Grigori. Eventually, he and the Super-Apes were killed by Doctor Octopus when the Intelligencia were attacked by his Sinister Six- Ock shot them all into space. They were resurrected almost IMMEDIATELY by M.O.D.O.K. in a silly bit, but promptly killed again by a HYDRA-loyal Captain America. So yes, even the RED GHOST can cheapen death in comics.

-Red Ghost is expensive, and can be quite deadly, but is generally under-pointed and needs to have plans in place to do damage. His Internal Attack is quite powerful, but it's not that accurate, and he's only PL 7 even with that. He falls into that ever-common "Super-Genius, but less than Mr. Fantastic" category where he knows a ton of stuff, but not enough to really RIVAL Stretcho or anything. It's expensive to have all those Skills, to be sure. Most of his pointage is either spent there, on his Internal Attack, or on his Attack/Ranged Insubstantial, which can be put to great use, especially in team battles.
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Re: Boulder

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Jabroniville wrote: Sat Jan 30, 2021 6:00 am Image

BOULDER (Real Name Unknown)
Created By:
Bill Mantlo & Joe Sinnott
First Appearance: Rom #28 (March 1982)
I checked my copy of Marvel Treasury #25, and that's where he first appeared.
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The Super-Apes

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THE SUPER-APES
Created By:
Stan Lee & Jack Kirby
First Appearance: The Fantastic Four #13 (April 1963)
Role: Talking Apes

-The Super-Apes are the Red Ghost's goon squad, but actually turned on him in their very first appearance. They were test-subjects on the rocket ship he used to gain his powers, and all of them gained super-powers and enhanced intelligence as well. When the team fought the Fantastic Four on the moon, they were forced into doing their master's bidding because he controlled access to their food supply. When Sue Storm broke through the force field the Ghost was using, they abandoned him. He appeared a few times by himself, but eventually the team just became his recurring Goon Squad again. At one point, he used Alpha & Beta, two new apes, with special powers, but they quickly vanished.

-They later gained intelligence while the Red Ghost lost his, but things were reversed quickly. Eventually, Mikhlo was killed in a battle with the Red Hulk, and replaced with a baby gorilla named Grigori. However, ALL of the Super-Apes were eventually killed during the Sinister Six's attack on the Intelligencia- they were shot into space. They were resurrected by M.O.D.O.K., but swiftly killed again by a now-evil Captain America.
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Mikhlo the Gorilla

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MIKHLO THE GORILLA
Created By:
Stan Lee & Jack Kirby
First Appearance: The Fantastic Four #13 (April 1963)
Role: Powerhouse, Talking Monkey
Group Affiliations: The Super-Apes, The Pets of Evil Masters
PL 10 (147)
STRENGTH
13 STAMINA 12 AGILITY 2
FIGHTING 7 DEXTERITY 2
INTELLIGENCE 1 AWARENESS 1 PRESENCE -1

Skills:
Expertise (Survival) 4 (+5)
Investigation 3 (+4)
Intimidation 10 (+10)
Perception 4 (+5)
Vehicles 7 (+9)

Advantages:
All-Out Attack, Benefit (Ambidexterity), Chokehold, Diehard, Great Endurance, Fast Grab, Favored Enemy (Fantastic Four), Improved Critical (Unarmed), Improved Initiative, Improved Grab, Improved Hold, Improved Smash, Power Attack, Ranged Attack 3, Startle, Takedown 2, Teamwork

Powers:
"Animal Senses" Senses 3 (Acute & Extended Scent, Low-Light Vision) [3]
"Ape Arms" Strength-Damage +0 (Feats: Reach) [1]
Power-Lifting 1 (400 tons) [1]

"Dense Hide"
Protection 1 (Extras: Impervious 7) [8]

"Super-Strength Feats"
"Groundstrike" Affliction 10 (Dodge; Hindered/Prone) (Extras: Area- 60ft. Burst +2) (Flaws: Limited Degree, Instant Recovery, Limited to Grounded Targets) Linked to Damage 11 (Extras: Area- 30ft. Burst) (Flaws: Limited to Objects) (16) -- [18]
  • AE: "Shockwave" Damage 10 (Extras: Area- 30ft. Burst) (Flaws: Both He & Target Must Be Touching Ground) (10)
  • AE: "Sonic Slam" Affliction 10 (Fort; Dazed/Stunned) (Extras: Area- 30ft. Burst) (Flaws: Limited Degree) (10)
Offense:
Unarmed +7 (+13 Damage, DC 28)
Initiative +6

Defenses:
Dodge +7 (DC 17), Parry +7 (DC 17), Toughness +13, Fortitude +12, Will +4

Complications:
Motivation (Greed)

Total: Abilities: 74 / Skills: 28--14 / Advantages: 20 / Powers: 31 / Defenses: 8 (147)

-Mikhlo rounds out the Super-Apes, and is the resident Strongape, appropriate for a Gorilla-themed character. He joined a team that fought the Pet Avengers at one point, unlike his fellows, too. Despite seemingly being the most bad-ass member of his team, Mikhlo is the only one to have died in action, being killed by the Red Hulk in a recent story. Too bad- I always like the Team Strongman archetype, and now the Super-Apes are just two fuzzy, talking primates who aren't much good in that formation. My guess is we'll be seeing a "replacement" Gorilla come in soon enough, once somebody else gets the idea to use this group. Edit- and yup, for my 3e build, research says they got some Baby Gorilla and amped it up.

-Mikhlo is actually PL 10 against ALL threats (well, more like PL 9.5), being that he needs to be a Brick strong enough to go up against The Thing for long enough to survive, and PL 9 guys with +12 damage bonus (that's my official standard for the Class 75-100 range) tend to be REALLY inaccurate, to the point where they can't hit anything. He makes up for being a PL higher than his buddies by being the lowest-pointed of them, with the fewest options. He's basically just a really strong melee fighter, with tons of Grapple-themed stuff, Takedown 2, and general Toughness going for him.
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Igor the Baboon

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Note: despite having “baboon” IN HIS NAME, Igor the Baboon is sometimes also a Mandrill.

IGOR THE BABOON
Created By:
Stan Lee & Jack Kirby
First Appearance: The Fantastic Four #13 (April 1963)
Role: Talking Monkey, Shapeshifter
Group Affiliations: The Super-Apes
PL 9 (151)
STRENGTH
2 STAMINA 3 AGILITY 4
FIGHTING 12 DEXTERITY 2
INTELLIGENCE 0 AWARENESS 1 PRESENCE -1

Skills:
Acrobatics 4 (+7)
Athletics 6 (+8)
Expertise (Survival) 5 (+6)
Insight 3 (+4)
Intimidation 11 (+7 Size)
Perception 7 (+8)
Stealth 3 (+7)
Vehicles 3 (+5)

Advantages:
All-Out Attack, Chokehold, Defensive Attack, Diehard, Fast Grab, Favoured Enemy (Fantastic Four), Improved Critical (Bite), Improved Disarm, Improved Hold, Improved Initiative, Power Attack, Ranged Attack 8, Startle, Takedown 2, Teamwork

Powers:
"Animal Senses" Senses 3 (Acute & Extended Scent, Low-Light Vision) [3]
"Simian Anatomy" Enhanced Athletics 4 (+12) (Flaws: Limited to Climbing) [1]
Speed 2 (4 mph) [2]
"Baboon Teeth" Strength-Damage +1 [1]

"Cosmic Radiation Powers"
Shapeshift 5 [40]
(Typical Powers: Growth 6, Elongation, Extended Reach 4 Strength-Damage +2, Protection, Morph, "Arms as Guns" Blast 8- Multiattack)

Offense:
Unarmed +12 (+2 Damage, DC 17)
Teeth +12 (+3 Damage, DC 18)
Shapeshifting +12 (+5 Damage, DC 20)
Arm-Guns +10 (+8 Ranged Damage, DC 23)
Initiative +4

Defenses:
Dodge +13 (DC 23), Parry +13 (DC 23), Toughness +3, Fortitude +6, Will +4

Complications:
Motivation (Greed)

Total: Abilities: 46 / Skills: 42--21 / Advantages: 23 / Powers: 47 / Defenses: 16 (151)

-Misnomer time: Though a member of the Super-Apes, Igor here is a Baboon, which is an Old World Monkey, NOT an Ape (if it has a tail, it's a monkey). Though in the 1960s, I would hardly imagine a couple of born & bred New Yorkers without Animal Planet or the Discovery Channel knowing that. Igor shares many traits with his fellow Super-Apes- they're all hyper-intelligent (though not much smarter than normal people from what I've read- they do seem rather eloquent at times, though, which I'm guessing is a bit of randomness on the part of the writers) simians with one solid Super-Power backing them up. Actually, they're rather tough, especially when they fight in a group.

-Igor's a Shapeshifter, and is stated to be rather powerful- he can grow Large, deflect gunfire by turning into a metal sheet, turn his arms to Blasting Guns, morph into other forms, elongate/stretch like Mr. Fantastic, etc. Surprisingly, he & the other Apes are PL 9 to 9.5-ish characters, despite the fact that they regularly combat the PL 11 Fantastic Four, as they're kind of jobbers. OK, so he's only PL 9, and only with certain power sub-sets- ie. he can't be balanced on offense & defense simultaneously. But I decided to give them a bit of a bonus to their "chosen enemies", the F.F., so the Super-Apes all get Favored Enemy to boost their PL a notch when they fight Mr. Fantastic & crew. Seems to make a bit of sense. So he's got weaknesses. As a Baboon, he's pretty weak in base form, being right on the borderline between Normal Size & Small (but if Dogs & Wolves are Normal Size, a potentially 90-lb. Baboon should be as well), but he's still fairly tough.
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Re: The Red Ghost

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THE RED GHOST (Igor Kragoff)
Created By:
Stan Lee & Jack Kirby
First Appearance: The Fantastic Four #13 (April 1963)
Role: Evil Counterpart (to Reed Richards), Evil Communist
Group Affiliations: The Super-Apes, The Intelligencia
PL 7 (176)
STRENGTH
1 STAMINA 3 AGILITY 2
FIGHTING 8 DEXTERITY 4
INTELLIGENCE 8 AWARENESS 3 PRESENCE 2

Skills:
Deception 7 (+9)
Expertise (Animal Handling) 4 (+6)
Expertise (Science) 7 (+15)
Expertise (Communist) 5 (+13)
Insight 4 (+7)
Intimidation 5 (+7)
Perception 5 (+8)
Technology 8 (+16)
Treatment 1 (+9)
Vehicles 8 (+10)

Advantages:
Daze (Deception), Equipment 8 (Various Tech), Power Attack, Ranged Attack 4, Set-Up, Teamwork

Powers:
"Cosmic Radiation Powers"
Insubstantial 4 (Feats: Selective) (Extras: Attack, Ranged) [29]
"Air-Walking" Flight 1 (4 mph) (Feats: Subtle) (Flaws: Limited to While Phased) [2]
Immunity 4 (Drowning, Suffocation, Thirst & Starvation) (Flaws: Limited to While Phased) [2]
"Invisibility" Concealment 4 (All Visual Senses) [8]

"Leave Object Inside Something" Damage 8 (Feats: Penetrating 8) (Extras: Affects Corporeal) (Flaws: Limited to Size of the Object) (Inaccurate -1) [15]

Offense:
Unarmed +8 (+1 Damage, 16)
Leaving Objects +6 (+8 Damage, DC 23)
Laser Blaster or Something +8 (+6 Ranged Damage, DC 21)
Initiative +2

Defenses:
Dodge +10 (DC 20), Parry +10 (DC 20), Toughness +3, Fortitude +6, Will +5

Complications:
Motivation (Ego, Power)

Total: Abilities: 62 / Skills: 54--27 / Advantages: 16 / Powers: 56 / Defenses: 15 (176)

-The Red Ghost is a rarely-seen villain, and a total relic of the Silver Age. I mean, a Red Communist in a parka (using a "Jack Kirby is Half-Assing It" Ugly Scientist Face) who leads a team of super-powered Apes? How is that NOT dated as all hell? That same datedness is what made him a relatively minor villain during the past dozens of years, but could easily lead to a big comeback now that it's kind of kitzchy to have something so blatantly "Sixties" in a modern comic book. It hasn't quite taken, despite a more recent appearance in Fantastic Four, though.

-The Ghost himself is an evil Commie scientist who saw Mr. Fantastic's voyage into space and copied it, giving he and his apes (apes & monkeys were often used in tests for Outer Space travel, as most everyone should know) superhuman powers, with which he decided to... I dunno, kick some ass and stuff. It's actually kinda funny that it's that easy to deliberately gain great super-powers in this manner. In any case, they and the Four engaged in a battle for "supremacy of the Moon" (remember, this is before Americans ACTUALLY landed on it), and the Four lost at first, but the Super-Apes rebelled when Sue gave them the food the Ghost had been keeping from them in order to get them to do his bidding. He eventually returned to Earth after repeatedly trying to steal the Watcher's secrets, and was booted from the Soviet Union for his failure.

-He was really kind of a Mr. Fantastic wannabe (in an era where nearly EVERY major threat to the team was a Mr. Fantastic wannabe), was pretty good at science himself, and didn't have too much success overall. He just kind of popped up between major arcs here or there, threatening the team (sometimes with the Apes, sometimes without). He and the Mad Thinker teamed up against the Avengers once, with Attuma against the Defenders, and with the Unicorn against Iron Man- here, he was turned into a permanently-intangible "ghost" after using a weapon to give two new apes (Alpha & Beta) some powers. He regained them after stowing away on Reed Richards's ship, and re-teamed with the Super-Apes, fighting Spider-Man, the Soviet Super-Soldiers, Quasar (during Acts of Vengeance), and Power Pack on separate occasions.

-Later, the Super-Apes gained advanced intelligence and the Red Ghost lost his, but he recovered and joined the anti-Hulk "Intelligencia", replacing Mikhlo (who had been killed by the Red Hulk) with a super-strong baby gorilla named Grigori. Eventually, he and the Super-Apes were killed by Doctor Octopus when the Intelligencia were attacked by his Sinister Six- Ock shot them all into space. They were resurrected almost IMMEDIATELY by M.O.D.O.K. in a silly bit, but promptly killed again by a HYDRA-loyal Captain America. So yes, even the RED GHOST can cheapen death in comics.

-Red Ghost is expensive, and can be quite deadly, but is generally under-pointed and needs to have plans in place to do damage. His Internal Attack is quite powerful, but it's not that accurate, and he's only PL 7 even with that. He falls into that ever-common "Super-Genius, but less than Mr. Fantastic" category where he knows a ton of stuff, but not enough to really RIVAL Stretcho or anything. It's expensive to have all those Skills, to be sure. Most of his pointage is either spent there, on his Internal Attack, or on his Attack/Ranged Insubstantial, which can be put to great use, especially in team battles.
Crazily enough, Red Ghost's 'evil Communist Super Ape' shtick was possibly inspired by a real Russian-Soviet scientist by the name of Ilya Ivanov. Known for his work in advancing artificial insemination, Ivanov became fixated on the idea of creating ape-man hybrids by using his techniques on chimpanzees. He spent most of the 1920's on his 'project' and failed repeatedly, until Josef Stalin began purging what he saw as 'bourgeois psudo scientists' at the start of the 30's*. Ivanov died in exile in modern day Kazakhstan in 1932.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ilya_Ivanovich_Ivanov

I have to wonder if Stan and Jack stumbled across this story at some point since they were involved in the science fiction scene of the 1940's and 50's, where Americans must have heard all kinds of rumors of what the Soviets were trying to develop.

*Fun fact, Stalin despised all kinds of advanced science like genetics, computer engineering, and cybernetics since he considered them the spawn of capitalist society and degrading to the spirit of socialism. He specifically distrusted genetics and bio-engineering due to their links to the theories of Gregor Mendel, since he considered anything authored by a monk to be tainted by connections to religion. He also passed this prejudice on to his successors, which is one of the reason the Soviet Union fell so behind the West when trying to advance in computer science or new medical techniques. The image of the evil Soviet scientist creating advanced battlesuits or mutant super-soldiers in the name of the Motherland is not one that has much in common with reality.
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Re: The Red Ghost

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Grenzer wrote: Sun Jan 31, 2021 5:20 am
Crazily enough, Red Ghost's 'evil Communist Super Ape' shtick was possibly inspired by a real Russian-Soviet scientist by the name of Ilya Ivanov. Known for his work in advancing artificial insemination, Ivanov became fixated on the idea of creating ape-man hybrids by using his techniques on chimpanzees. He spent most of the 1920's on his 'project' and failed repeatedly, until Josef Stalin began purging what he saw as 'bourgeois psudo scientists' at the start of the 30's*. Ivanov died in exile in modern day Kazakhstan in 1932.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ilya_Ivanovich_Ivanov

I have to wonder if Stan and Jack stumbled across this story at some point since they were involved in the science fiction scene of the 1940's and 50's, where Americans must have heard all kinds of rumors of what the Soviets were trying to develop.

*Fun fact, Stalin despised all kinds of advanced science like genetics, computer engineering, and cybernetics since he considered them the spawn of capitalist society and degrading to the spirit of socialism. He specifically distrusted genetics and bio-engineering due to their links to the theories of Gregor Mendel, since he considered anything authored by a monk to be tainted by connections to religion. He also passed this prejudice on to his successors, which is one of the reason the Soviet Union fell so behind the West when trying to advance in computer science or new medical techniques. The image of the evil Soviet scientist creating advanced battlesuits or mutant super-soldiers in the name of the Motherland is not one that has much in common with reality.
oh, interesting! I'd never heard of that guy! Given how little Stan ever cared or knew about science, I can't imagine he was overly familiar with the guy, but Jack might have been.
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