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Re: Jab’s Builds! (Puppet Master! Mole Man! The Super-Apes!)

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Because the original Super-Skrull was a hybrid of the Fantastic Four, when Secret Invasion happened, I was kinda hoping for Super-Skrulls based on the other cosmic-radiation-powered quartets, the U-Foes and Red Ghost and his Super-Apes!

The latter one would first appear as a sixty foot kong-ape (from Igor's shapeshifting combined with his own, allowing him to grow or shrink, but only into a giant ape or a tiny 'spider monkey') able to phase like Red Ghost, with Mikho's super-strength and toughness, and whatever-the-heck Petero's power ended up being (magnetism?). Quite the difference from the typical 'flying flaming stretchy dude made of bricks' that is the 'standard' Super-Skrull!
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Peotor the Orangutan

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PEOTOR THE ORANGUTAN
Created By:
Stan Lee & Jack Kirby
First Appearance: The Fantastic Four #13 (April 1963)
Role: Magnetic Villain, Talking Ape
Group Affiliations: The Super-Apes
PL 9 (174)
STRENGTH
5 STAMINA 5 AGILITY 3
FIGHTING 9 DEXTERITY 3
INTELLIGENCE 2 AWARENESS 1 PRESENCE 0

Skills:
Acrobatics 3 (+6)
Athletics 4 (+9)
Close Combat (Unarmed) 2 (+11)
Deception 2 (+2)
Expertise (Survival) 6 (+7)
Expertise (Science) 5 (+7)
Insight 3 (+4)
Intimidation 7 (+7)
Perception 4 (+5)
Ranged Combat (Powers) 2 (+9)
Technology 5 (+7)
Vehicles 3 (+6)

Advantages:
All-Out Attack, Chokehold, Defensive Attack, Diehard, Extraordinary Effort, Fast Grab, Favored Enemy (Fantastic Four), Improved Disarm, Improved Initiative, Improved Hold, Power Attack, Ranged Attack 4, Startle, Takedown, Teamwork

Powers:
"Animal Senses" Senses 3 (Acute & Extended Scent, Low-Light Vision) [3]
"Apelike Body" Enhanced Skill 4: Athletics 4 (+11) (Flaws: Limited to Climbing) [1]
"Tremendous Arm Length" Strength-Damage +1 (Feats: Reach) [2]
Protection 1 [1]
Features 1: May Use Feet as Hands [1]

"Cosmic Radiation Powers"
"Gravity Control" Affliction 9 (Strength; Impaired, Hindered & Vulnerable/Disabled, Restrained & Defenseless/Paralyzed) (Extras: Area- 30ft. Burst, Ranged, Selective, Extra Condition +2) (Flaws: Instant Recovery) (45) -- [53]
  • AE: "Magnetic Control" Move Object 12 (Extras: Perception Range) (Flaws: Limited to Metals) (24) -- [34]
  • AE: "Attract/Repel" Move Object 10 (Extras: Area- 30ft. Burst) (Flaws: Touch Range) (20)
  • AE: "Throw Metal" Blast 9 (18)
  • AE: "Metal Bullets" Blast 7 (Extras: Multiattack) (21)
  • AE: "Shape Metal" Transform (Metal to Metal) 6 (Extras: Continuous) (24)
  • AE: "Magnetic Snare" Snare 9 (Feats: Reversible, Chokehold) (29)
  • AE: "Strange Gravity" Environment 5 (250 feet) (Impede Movement 2) (10)
  • AE: Move Object 10 (20)
Offense:
Unarmed +11 (+6 Damage, DC 21)
Throw Metal +9 (+9 Ranged Damage, DC 24)
Metal Bullets +9 (+7 Ranged Damage, DC 22)
Snare +9 (+9 Ranged Affliction, DC 19)
Initiative +4

Defenses:
Dodge +11 (DC 21), Parry +11 (DC 21), Toughness +3, Fortitude +8, Will +4

Complications:
Motivation (Greed)

Total: Abilities: 56 / Skills: 46--23 / Advantages: 18 / Powers: 61 / Defenses: 16 (174)

-Peotor is one of the few Orangutan-based characters in comic books. Usually, writers stick to the popular Chimps and Gorillas because of their familiarity and non-gawky frames, whereas the bright orange Orangs are REALLY long-limbed, have long hair all over, and have those big cheek pouches on the males, rendering them kind of hard to draw. Writers over the years have differed over exactly what his powers are- Magnetism & Gravity Control have been used seemingly at random in the days before the internet. Coming out in FF #13, he's actually among the very first characters to show EITHER power, though he's pre-dated by The Legion of Super-Heroes's Cosmic Boy by a ways, as well as the Golden Age hero, Magno.

-Peotor's a Blaster with a good amount of Alt-Effects, and a fair bit of strength. A notch stronger than the strongest of all humans, he's not pushover in melee either, so don't assume he's a weakling. I decided to just go with Gravity AND Magnetic Control, giving Peotor a handful of Alt-Effects for all of them- Environmental stuff, TK, Snares, Shaping Metal, and a few Blasts. His sheer lifting power is a little more advanced, but he's still capped at PL 9, so he can't do any more than +9 damage, even if he's lifting +12 worth of stuff (100 tons).
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Grigori the Gorilla

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GRIGORI THE GORILLA
Created By:
Harrison Wilcox & Ryan Stegman
First Appearance: She-Hulks #2 (Feb. 2011)
Role: Powerhouse, Temporary Replacement Character (to Mikhlo)
Group Affiliations: The Super-Apes

-Grigori appears in She-Hulks (a book teaming up She-Hulk & Lyra, daughter of Hulk & Thundra), replacing the deceased Mikhlo. He is an infant gorilla with a nasty smirk and a pacifier in his mouth, and has the same powers as his predecessor- super-strength. It's unknown how long he stuck around, as the Super-Apes were killed off twice over.
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Re: Jab’s Builds! (Puppet Master! Mole Man! The Super-Apes!)

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Ahhhhh, the Red Ghost. Fun times, the issues he and his crew show up in, great weird fun.
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Re: The Puppet Master

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Jabroniville wrote: Sat Jan 30, 2021 8:59 pm ahhhhh- that makes sense. I don't recall puppets having long eyelashes, but in the '60s, yeah.
If you do an image search on ventriloquist puppets, you'll see some. It's basically to make blinks read better at a distance on stage, same reason stage actors of both genders often wear mascara to make their lashes more evident.
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The Mad Thinker

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THE MAD THINKER (Julius something, aka The Thinker)
Created By:
Stan Lee & Jack Kirby
First Appearance: The Fantastic Four #15 (June 1963)
Role: The Mad Scientist's Mad Scientist
Group Affiliations: The Maggia, The Intelligencia, The Triumvirate of Terror
PL 8 (163)
STRENGTH
1 STAMINA 3 AGILITY 1
FIGHTING 5 DEXTERITY 4
INTELLIGENCE 10 AWARENESS 4 PRESENCE 2

Skills:
Deception 5 (+7)
Expertise (Science) 10 (+20)
Expertise (History) 2 (+12)
Insight 4 (+8)
Intimidation 3 (+5)
Investigation 5 (+9)
Perception 4 (+8)
Technology 10 (+20)
Treatment 1 (+11)
Vehicles 4 (+8)

Advantages:
Beginner's Luck, Defensive Attack, Eidetic Memory, Equipment 15 (Base, Computers, Flying Hover-Thingie, Weapons, etc.), Jack-of-All-Trades, Ranged Combat 6, Skill Mastery 2 (Technology & Science), Ultimate Skill (Technology), Well-Informed

Powers:
"Surgically-Implanted Radio Projector"
Remote Sensing 16 (Hearing & Sight) (Flaws: Limited to His Own Robots) [32]

"Computer Mind"
Quickness 6 (Flaws: Limited to Mental Tasks) [3]
Senses 4 (Precognition) (Flaws: Limited to Reactions & Expectations Regarding Plans) [2]

Offense:
Unarmed +5 (+1 Damage, DC 16)
Ray Gun +10 (+6 Ranged Damage, DC 21)
Initiative +1

Defenses:
Dodge +8 (DC 18), Parry +7 (DC 17), Toughness +3, Fortitude +5, Will +6

Complications:
Enemy (Reed Richards)- Like most early Fantastic Four enemies, The Mad Thinker is obsessed with proving himself to be smarter than Reed Richards.
Reputation (Mad)- He prefers to be called "The Thinker", but the other appelation stuck.
Responsibility (Code of Conduct)- Despite being an evil douche, the Thinker will not willfully endanger the lives of children. He once broke up a partnership with The Wizard because it would likely kill Franklin Richards.
Responsibility (The X-Factor)- A master planner, the Thinker's plans are often foiled by some random "x-factor" forcing it's way onto the scene. He once had a plan ruined because Spider-Man happened to come upon him, and after capturing The Avengers, he was foiled by Hercules, who had just recently become a member (after the Thinker came up with his plan).

Total: Abilities: 60 / Skills: 48--24 / Advantages: 29 / Powers: 37 / Defenses: 13 (163)

The Mad Thinker- Marvel's Classic Mad Scientist:
-The Thinker (or Mad Thinker, as everyone else calls him) is an old-school FF villain, so much so that he's just a generic mad scientist and that's it. No tragic past (we don't even KNOW his past), and there's nothing else to him; he's just a mean, vicious, rival scientist who messes stuff up and tries to steal Reed Richards' inventions. And actually, he had a TON of appearances in his day- rather than just over-use Dr. Doom all the time, the FF book used him as pretty much the token "HERE'S my new plan!" nemesis, with appearances in countless books. He only occasionally gets used these days, though, as the "Mad Scientist" was virtually a dead trope, but he's started showing up again as a background villain, and years of insight have given me new realizations about a guy I once dismissed as a "lame", forgettable villain. Kind of a classic, with his ugly Jack Kirby design and crazed persona, so I don't mind him these days.

-His early schtick was that he was a brilliant planner, able to accomplish just about anything thanks to a predictive ability that bordered on precognition... but that he would always be undone by some human "X-Factor" that threw a fork into his plans. For example: in his debut, he trapped the FF within their own building, but was foiled when Willie Lumpkin, the mailman for the Baxter Building, rang the doorbell, thus activated the circuit breaker Reed had built into all of his devices. He teamed up with the Puppet Master a few times, created the computer "Quasimodo", and even faced the Avengers many times (once being undone when Hercules unexpectedly showed up- another "X-Factor" he missed). Several times, he was sent to prison, but this never bothered him: he could easily act using the Awesome Android as his proxy, and was perfectly-happy to watch his plans unfold while imprisoned. Over the years, he's become more and more of a "Journeyman Villain", fighting the FF a little less, and appearing in a LOT of other books as a "Generic Schemer" who simply opposes a different book's star every once in a while.

The Mad Thinker Moves On:
-It's hard to think of a Marvel villain who's fought more guys- later foes include Spider-Man, Thundra, Daredevil, Vision, Yellowjacket, Team America, She-Hulk, and more. He and the Wizard were betrayed by the Puppet Master when all three tried to attack the wedding of Johnny Storm & Alicia Masters, and he appeared often in The New Warriors, taking an interest in the teens after being hired to observe them and figure out their weaknesses. Ultimately, the book's final issue reveals that he wanted them to help his nephew, who'd mysteriously gained dangerous super-powers. Later, the Awesome Android became "Awesome Andy" and tried to make a life without him, but the two later join the Intelligencia in The Hulk, and he becomes part of The Hood's version of the Illuminati after nearly (or maybe) dying when the Sinister Six attacks the Intelligencia. He is beaten by an inverted Doctor Doom (now a good guy) during AXIS, and tries to replicate the Fantastic Four when Reed Richards leaves Earth, but they fail to stop a powerless Thing & Torch.

-Ultimately, the Mad Thinker has more appearances to his name than almost any other villain at Marvel, without ever really getting into the depths of his personality, his backstory, or ANYTHING- he's just kind of this plainly-designed guy who is extremely useful to writers because he functions as a generic, but recognizable, "Mad Scientist" who can create ANY kind of a plot thread or story. So rather that invent another one-off mad scientist, writers can just use this guy. He has just enough quirks to keep him interesting (insanity; the Awesome Android; his "X-Factor" weakness), and just enough credibility to last for an issue or two before being beaten, never losing that and becoming just a "speedbump". It's a very particular level that lets him live on while so many other villains fall by the wayside.

Mad Thinking:
-The Mad Thinker is one of the few characters who comes close to Reed Richards & Dr. Doom in sheer intellect- INT 10 to their INT 12s. Less of an inventive genius than Reed (note the lack of Inventor for such a brilliant mind), he often swipes other people's concepts and inventions, but he makes up for it with a near-Precognitive level of planning genius (often thrown into disorder by a single "X-Factor" like Spider-Man wandering into a battleground, or something), understanding of the most complex principles, and his Awesome Android. When the Thing was hospitalized following his fight with the Champion of the Universe, the Thinker gladly avoided getting involved with other supervillains were hunting him down as he waas laid-up- he happily pointed out that he predicted at least ONE villain would break through all of the defenses and get into Ben's room, so why bother? And it turned out he was right... except that villain was the SANDMAN, who had decided to reform and had merely come to hang out and share some beers with Ben.

-The Thinker can also project his consciousness into his own robots, which I choose to stat up as more of a Remote Sensing than a Mind Switch/Affliction thing (since his robots automatically let him take control). Like most super-geniuses, he's not a real combatant, and needs his Robots & Androids to fight for him.
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Re: Grigori the Gorilla

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Jabroniville wrote: Sun Jan 31, 2021 8:23 am Image

GRIGORI THE GORILLA
Created By:
Harrison Wilcox & Ryan Stegman
First Appearance: She-Hulks #2 (Feb. 2011)
Role: Powerhouse, Temporary Replacement Character (to Mikhlo)
Group Affiliations: The Super-Apes

-Grigori appears in She-Hulks (a book teaming up She-Hulk & Lyra, daughter of Hulk & Thundra), replacing the deceased Mikhlo. He is an infant gorilla with a nasty smirk and a pacifier in his mouth, and has the same powers as his predecessor- super-strength. It's unknown how long he stuck around, as the Super-Apes were killed off twice over.
I like how this version of Red Ghost looks. It differentiated him from other "Evil Mad Scientist" types. Man needs a better Razor though. That quasi-mustache makes him look like one of the Super-Apes...
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Re: Jab’s Builds! (Mole Man! The Super-Apes! The Mad Thinker!)

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haha, I think that's deliberate- like an Orangutan's beard.
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To me, the Mad Thinker’s signature is his “calculations” edge into nigh-precognitive predictions, so he has something ready to deal with the heroes right up until the X-Factor throws him off. Then it’s all reliance on the Awesome Android. Reed may be more creative, but the Mad Thinker is a living computer backed up by a ridiculous amount of inorganic processing power (I once ran a plot where he attempted to take over Amazon’s cloud services to further augment his capabilities). He also has something resembling ethics; he once broke up a partnership with the Wizard because the plan would likely kill Franklin Richards. The best of the old-school mad geniuses.
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The Red Ghost was the one member I struck from my game’s version of the Intelligencia, replacing him with Doctor Octopus. Because Doc Ock doesn’t get enough respect and Ock is sane enough to keep two megalomaniacs, a narcisist, and a sociopath going in the same direction.
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Re: Jab’s Builds! (Mole Man! The Super-Apes! The Mad Thinker!)

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... in some ways, I think the Mad Thinker was one of Jack's ideas that would later re-materialize when he created Darkseid, in that they're both obsessed with perfecting an equation that will allow them to predict-and-or-control everything. (Blastaar and the Red Skull are two of the others.)
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Jack of Spades wrote: Sun Jan 31, 2021 10:23 pm To me, the Mad Thinker’s signature is his “calculations” edge into nigh-precognitive predictions, so he has something ready to deal with the heroes right up until the X-Factor throws him off. Then it’s all reliance on the Awesome Android. Reed may be more creative, but the Mad Thinker is a living computer backed up by a ridiculous amount of inorganic processing power (I once ran a plot where he attempted to take over Amazon’s cloud services to further augment his capabilities). He also has something resembling ethics; he once broke up a partnership with the Wizard because the plan would likely kill Franklin Richards. The best of the old-school mad geniuses.
It's such a tough thing to stat, too, lol- "Precognition" is only a 4-point power, and it ALWAYS has caveats in things like comic books, so it'd be Limited, but his "X-Factor" thing is more of a Complication than anything. Does he actually have a super-fast mind, or just the standard issue "Comic Book Smart Guy" attributes?
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Re: Jab’s Builds! (Mole Man! The Super-Apes! The Mad Thinker!)

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Jabroniville wrote: Mon Feb 01, 2021 12:52 am
Jack of Spades wrote: Sun Jan 31, 2021 10:23 pm To me, the Mad Thinker’s signature is his “calculations” edge into nigh-precognitive predictions, so he has something ready to deal with the heroes right up until the X-Factor throws him off. Then it’s all reliance on the Awesome Android. Reed may be more creative, but the Mad Thinker is a living computer backed up by a ridiculous amount of inorganic processing power (I once ran a plot where he attempted to take over Amazon’s cloud services to further augment his capabilities). He also has something resembling ethics; he once broke up a partnership with the Wizard because the plan would likely kill Franklin Richards. The best of the old-school mad geniuses.
It's such a tough thing to stat, too, lol- "Precognition" is only a 4-point power, and it ALWAYS has caveats in things like comic books, so it'd be Limited, but his "X-Factor" thing is more of a Complication than anything. Does he actually have a super-fast mind, or just the standard issue "Comic Book Smart Guy" attributes?
He has a super-computing mind. He would always give a percentage, like "My plan has a 96.4% success rate in the next 4 minutes."
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The Awesome Android

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THE AWESOME ANDROID (Awesome Andy)
Created By:
Stan Lee & Jack Kirby
First Appearance: The Fantastic Four #15 (June 1963)
Role: Android Mook
Group Affiliations: Goodman, Lieber, Kurtzberg & Holliway
PL 12 (180)
STRENGTH
10 STAMINA -- AGILITY 1
FIGHTING 8 DEXTERITY 4
INTELLIGENCE -2 AWARENESS -2 PRESENCE -2

Skills:
Close Combat (Unarmed) 2 (+10)
Expertise (Computers) 6 (+4)
Expertise (Civics) 4 (+2)
Expertise (Office Worker) 4 (+2)
Intimidation 10 (+8, +10 Size)
Perception 4 (+2)

Advantages:
All-Out Attack, Fast Grab, Improved Critical (Unarmed), Improved Grapple, Improved Hold, Improved Initiative, Interpose, Power Attack, Ranged Attack 2, Startle, Takedown 2, Ultimate Toughness Save

Powers:
"Android Body"
Immunity 40 (Fortitude, Mental Effects) [40]
Growth 4 (Str & Toughness +4, +4 Mass, +2 Intimidation, -2 Dodge/Parry, -4 Stealth) -- (12 feet) (Feats: Innate) (Extras: Permanent +0) [9]
Protection 8 (Extras: Impervious 11) [19]
Power-Lifting 1 (50 tons) [1]
Regeneration 4 (Feats: Regrow Limbs) [5]
"Gale-Force Wind" Affliction 10 (Dodge; Hindered/Prone) (Extras: Area- 60ft. Cone) (Flaws: Limited Degree, Instant Recovery) Linked to Damage 6 (Extras: Area- 60ft. Cone) [17]

"Mimicking One Power"
Variable 3 (Multiple Body-Based Powers) (Extras: Reaction +3) (Flaws: Limited to Those Touched) [27]

Offense:
Unarmed +10 (+10 Damage, DC 25)
Boosted Strength From The Thing +10 (+13 Damage, DC 28)
Initiative +1

Defenses:
Dodge +8 (DC 18), Parry +8 (DC 18), Toughness +12, Fortitude --, Will +4

Complications:
Disabled (Mute)
Involuntary Transformation (Immobile)- Awesome Andy shuts down when a switch in his left armpit is switched.

Total: Abilities: 16 / Skills: 30--15 / Advantages: 14 / Powers: 118 / Defenses: 17 (180)

-The Mad Thinker created his Awesome Android (back when "awesome" was a standard positive word to add to make something sound impressive- not Surfer Slang) to fight the Fantastic Four, and it did some mimicking, and beat them around for a bit, before ultimately being defeated. He showed up a handful of times over the years (including fighting the X-Men and FF at once) but, being more dated than even the Thinker himself, he became one of those villains that nobody ever really thought about anymore, and vanished. He then reappeared fighting Rom, Captain America, and being used as part of the "Heavy Metal" squadron of androids fighting the Avengers, including the Super-Adaptoid, a Kree Sentry, and T.E.S.S.-One. Namor rips its head off and it sinks to the ocean floor. It reappears during Acts of Vengeance being programmed by Machinesmith to fight the Avengers, then it fights the Thunderbolts, Heroes For Hire, the FF again, and is finally reclaimed by the Thinker.

-More recent She-Hulk stories using a lot of old goofy Marvel concepts re-introduced him as Awesome Andy, having gained a level of sentience and applying for emancipation from the Thinker in a comedic bit. This lasted a few years, with him as a worker at the law office. But he eventually left the book after being rejected by a woman he liked, and lo, there he is again, under the thumb of the Mad Thinker. Again. See, this is why it doesn't pay to give old-school little-seen characters power or personality upgrades. You know how many damn times I've seen Electro gain power-ups over the years? Same thing. He reappears during the "Iron Man 2020" thing, along with most of the artificial beings in the Marvel Universe.

-The Awesome Android is PL 9 in his base form as a super-sized dumb Powerhouse, but upon touching Ben Grimm or somebody, he can Mimic a few properties, and gain in PL, eventually becoming PL 12. I'm pretty sure Strength 10 is where he sits normally- upon Mimicking The Thing he can go higher. The Mimic doesn't go very far, and is limited to only 15 Power Points, but it's Action is all the way up to Reaction, allowing him to steal powers just by being punched. He's pretty dumb (and is even worse without sentience- he loses Int & Cha entirely), and is quite cheap, but he's about as good as you can get for a Robot Minion. Since I don't think he has much discernable anatomy, or be KO'd, I think the Android is a Fortitude-Immune non-living entity, though others have built him with a Con score.
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The Mad Thinker did also say that he used computers heavily while making his plans. He wasn't doing it all in his head
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