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Scarlet

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SCARLET (Sasha)
Created By:
Grant Morrison & Frank Quitely
First Appearance: Batman & Robin #1 (Aug. 2009)
Role: The Sidekick (to Jason Todd)
Group Affiliations: N/A

-Scarlet is the murderous vigilante who becomes the sidekick and apprentice of Jason Todd when he acts as the Red Hood. She was the daughter of a common crook- when they were abducted and traumatized by Professor Pyg, who sews masks to their faces, she murdered her father and was taken in by Jason, who hoped to channel her rage. Afraid to remove her mask lest it permanently scar her, she managed to defeat Damian Wayne at one point, and later her mask comes loose after a fight with an assassin named "Flamingo". She is a minor character thereafter, as I think Jason's various books are either cancelled or he's placed elsewhere, and then she shows up as part of the alliance between Jason and the Dynamic Duo.

-Scarlet is a melee fighter of some skill- probably PL 8 or so with a switchblade.
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Nocturna

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Oh, come on! No man's Will Save is THAT high!

NOCTURNA, MISTRESS OF THE NIGHT (Natasha Natalia Knight)
Created By:
Doug Moench & Gene Colan
First Appearance: Batman #363 (Sept. 1983)
Role: Pale Uber-Babe, Femme Fatale
Mental Problems: Greed, Irresponsible With the Affections of Others
PL 8 (129)
STRENGTH
1 STAMINA 2 AGILITY 3
FIGHTING 7 DEXTERITY 5
INTELLIGENCE 4 AWARENESS 3 PRESENCE 4

Skills:
Athletics 2 (+3)
Deception 4 (+8, +10 Attractive, +13 Uber-Attractive)
Expertise (Criminal) 2 (+6)
Expertise (Astronomy) 5 (+9)
Insight 2 (+5)
Perception 2 (+5)
Persuasion 5 (+9, +11 Attractive, +14 Uber-Attractive)
Stealth 2 (+5)

Advantages:
Attractive, Benefit 2 (Wealth), Equipment 4 (Revolver, K-O Pellets, Hot-Air Balloon), Ranged Attack 2

Powers:
"Powerful Perfume" (Flaws: Limited to When Wearing Perfume) [28]
"Uber-Attractive" Enhanced Advantages 1: Attractive (1)
Affliction 8 (Will; Entranced & Vulnerable/Compelled & Defenseless) (Feats: Subtle, Insidious) (Extras: Reaction +3, Extra Condition, Area- Scent Perception) (Flaws: Limited Degree, Limited to Those Who Like the Ladies) (34)
-- (35 points)

Equipment:
"Knock-Out Pellets" Affliction 6 (Fort; Fatigued/Exhausted/Asleep) (Extras: Area- 15ft. Cloud) (12) -- (14)
  • AE: "Knife" Strength-Damage +1 (Feats: Improved Critical) (2)
  • AE: "Revolver" Blast 5 (10)
Offense:
Unarmed +7 (+1 Damage, DC 16)
Knife +7 (+2 Damage, DC 17)
Revolver +7 (+5 Ranged Damage, DC 20)
K-O Pellets +6 Area (+6 Affliction, DC 16)
Affliction
Initiative +3

Defenses:
Dodge +8 (DC 18), Parry +8 (DC 18), Toughness +2, Fortitude +4, Will +5

Complications:
Motivation (Romanticism)- Nocturna is a natural romantic, and does a lot of things on impulse.
Relationship (The Night)- Nocturna is obsessed with night and darkness.
Relationship (The Night-Slayer)- She only rejects him when he "Murders the night" by killing someone.
Relationship (The Batman)- A fellow dweller in the darkness, The Batman intrigues and obsesses Nocturna.
Disabled (Pigment-Less Skin)- Nocturna's skin is vulnerable to the sun's rays, giving her bad sunburns and a greater chance of skin cancer.
Power Drawback (Perfume)- Nocturna's perfume will affect her own mind if she isn't already intoxicated by "the night", and so she will not wear it during the day.

Total: Abilities: 58 / Skills: 48--24 / Advantages: 9 / Powers: 28 / Defenses: 10 (129)

Nocturna, Mistress of the Night:
-Oh, haha, of course Doug "Moon Knight" Moench would be the guy to create the pale, night-themed Femme Fatale and her "thief in the night" stepsibling/lover. That comes off as such a Moon Knight thing. Humorously, Nocturna especially dominates Moench's run on the title, which ends very shortly after she leaves.

-I thought Nocturna was pretty goofy as a kid, but looking back... DAMN. Pale skin, dark lips and "midnight blue" reflective hair... nice. She's pretty much a Dark Seductress, stealing for fun and to keep up a lavish lifestyle, trying to adopt Jason Todd (back when he was Robin), while also trying to get both Bruce Wayne & Batman into bed. Her backstory was that she was the adopted sibling of Anton Knight, the Night-Thief, falling in love with him... but also got hit by a radioactive laser that drained her skin of all pigment and forced her to come out only at night. She had led a criminal enterprise where she plotted burglaries and the Night-Thief carried them out. When he was arrested, she had others do the dirty work, but ultimately gave it up.

-And then, because WELL LOOK AT HER, she succeeded in seducing Bruce Wayne, quickly discovering his secret identity. This was complicated by her successfully adopting Jason, and she suggested to Bruce that the best solution would be to marry- despite his wealth, it turns out that her real reason WAS that she was legitimately in love with him. But then she starts getting hunted by her former lover, now calling himself the Night-Slayer, and she's stabbed and put onto a Hot-Air Balloon, where she'd vanish until she returned in a Post-Crisis Robin issue as an acrobatic thief with a different real name and personality. In other words, there was probably a writer-switch and WHOOPS, off goes that hot new character of Moench's! Checking it out, she disappears in January 1986 and that September is Moench's last issue, so maybe not, but I dunno- seems like he was wiping hte slate clean for the next guy, or just got told to ice his new character and figured he'd leave things open for a return.

Post-Crisis Nocturna:
-Nocutrna was gonna be brought into Batman: The Animated Series", as a Vampiress who was going to turn Bruce into the Undead for a while. It got kiboshed thanks to Warner Brothers being all "no, you can't have vampires", which is the greatest shame EVER, because Bruce Timm was gonna use THIS as the design. Up yours, Warner Brothers. UP. YOURS.

-Despite looking like she did, Nocturna vanished for the duration, only reappearing as Natalia in 2000-era Robin comics. Here, she is a musician who secretes a pheromone that causes others to lose their inhibitions- this makes people more emotional at her performances. The writer, Jon Lewis, was at this point deliberately bringing old characters who'd interacted with Robins into the book, doing a "rebuild" of the character. Robin & Spoiler convince Natalia to go to S.T.A.R. Labs and have her powers investigated (the character is not a thief at this point), but later comics just use her as a standard-issue Background Villain, probably taking advantage of her distinctive appearance. She fights the Spoiler once, and in the "New 52" she's just an Arkham inmate. She actually shows up in Batwoman of all places, even frickin' dating the main heroine! Here, she manipulates her way into being Kate Kane's girlfriend while secretly committing crimes on the side. Given how Kate was drawn when I was reading Batwoman, it's somewhat appropriate that her girlfriend would also be deathly pale.

Nocturna's Abilities:
-Nocturna's no fighter, though she can semi-defend herself when it's necessary. Her key ability is her Perfume (which I statted up as a not-quite-Device that is Limited to When Wearing Perfume- it seems to be a fair thing), which buggered Batman enough that a Jobber like Night-Slayer almost easily killed him in a fight. It basically makes you more able to be seduced by her, as well as making you groggy enough to lose to Jobbers.
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Re: Scarlet

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Jabroniville wrote: Mon Sep 06, 2021 11:53 pm Image

SCARLET (Sasha)
Created By:
Grant Morrison & Frank Quitely
First Appearance: Batman & Robin #1 (Aug. 2009)
Role: The Sidekick (to Jason Todd)
Group Affiliations: N/A

-Scarlet is the murderous vigilante who becomes the sidekick and apprentice of Jason Todd when he acts as the Red Hood. She was the daughter of a common crook- when they were abducted and traumatized by Professor Pyg, who sews masks to their faces, she murdered her father and was taken in by Jason, who hoped to channel her rage. Afraid to remove her mask lest it permanently scar her, she managed to defeat Damian Wayne at one point, and later her mask comes loose after a fight with an assassin named "Flamingo". She is a minor character thereafter, as I think Jason's various books are either cancelled or he's placed elsewhere, and then she shows up as part of the alliance between Jason and the Dynamic Duo.

-Scarlet is a melee fighter of some skill- probably PL 8 or so with a switchblade.
Let's see: Professor Pyg, sidekick of Jason Todd, created by Grant Morrison. Yup, checks the better-left-forgotten boxes.
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Re: Nocturna

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Jabroniville wrote: Mon Sep 06, 2021 11:57 pm Post-Crisis Nocturna:
-Nocutrna was gonna be brought into Batman: The Animated Series", as a Vampiress who was going to turn Bruce into the Undead for a while. It got kiboshed thanks to Warner Brothers being all "no, you can't have vampires", which is the greatest shame EVER, because Bruce Timm was gonna use THIS as the design. Up yours, Warner Brothers. UP. YOURS.
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Re: Nocturna

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Shock wrote: Tue Sep 07, 2021 1:25 am
Jabroniville wrote: Mon Sep 06, 2021 11:57 pm Post-Crisis Nocturna:
-Nocutrna was gonna be brought into Batman: The Animated Series", as a Vampiress who was going to turn Bruce into the Undead for a while. It got kiboshed thanks to Warner Brothers being all "no, you can't have vampires", which is the greatest shame EVER, because Bruce Timm was gonna use THIS as the design. Up yours, Warner Brothers. UP. YOURS.
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Re: Nocturna

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Shock wrote: Tue Sep 07, 2021 1:25 am
Jabroniville wrote: Mon Sep 06, 2021 11:57 pm Post-Crisis Nocturna:
-Nocutrna was gonna be brought into Batman: The Animated Series", as a Vampiress who was going to turn Bruce into the Undead for a while. It got kiboshed thanks to Warner Brothers being all "no, you can't have vampires", which is the greatest shame EVER, because Bruce Timm was gonna use THIS as the design. Up yours, Warner Brothers. UP. YOURS.
File not found!!! :cry: :cry: :cry:
It’s the one up above by Timm, lol.
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Re: Jab’s Builds (Ace! Bat-Mite! Jason Todd! Nocturna!)

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I haven't read any of these comics, but maybe with Jason they could've had reality slowly reassert itself, so he only has a month to live or something? So at first he thinks he's back in business and he's got time for all this Edgy Teen Badass stuff, but then he realizes he's dying again and he has to get serious. But of course Batman doesn't know he's dying. And once the storyline ends, it ends. Does that make any sense with the character?
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Re: Jab’s Builds (Ace! Bat-Mite! Jason Todd! Nocturna!)

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One thing I find interesting is how much better characters like Nocturna and the Black Costume Spider-Man look in the 1980s. Like, today's slicker inking and coloring practices somehow... don't make the "blue-highlighted black" look as good as the more primitive coloring did. I don't know what it is, but the stark outlines and more "time-management" inking they used back in the day just make the contrast "pop" more (like, it was black AND blue and that was it- no extra tones). Nowadays it's too cartoony and slick. I've noticed this ever since Spidey went "back in black" in the past couple of decades, and the black costume now looked a lot more dreary and plain than it used to. Back in the day, Spidey's muscles used to really stand out back when each one had that blue highlight on it- now, it was too shaded and toned.
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The Night-Slayer

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THE NIGHT-SLAYER (Anton Knight, aka The Night-Thief)
Created By:
Doug Moench & Gene Colan
First Appearance: Detective Comics #529 (Aug. 1983)
Role: Nearly-Nude Martial Artist
Mental Problems: Obsession For Nocturna
PL 9 (125)
STRENGTH
3 STAMINA 4 AGILITY 6
FIGHTING 12 DEXTERITY 5
INTELLIGENCE 2 AWARENESS 3 PRESENCE 3

Skills:
Acrobatics 8 (+14)
Athletics 11 (+14)
Close Combat (Unarmed) 2 (+14)
Expertise (Cat Burglar) 8 (+10)
Insight 2 (+5)
Intimidation 2 (+5)
Perception 5 (+8)
Sleight of Hand 2 (+7)
Stealth 8 (+14)

Advantages:
Accurate Attack, Agile Feint, Chokehold, Equipment (Knife, Suit), Extraordinary Effort, Fast Grab, Improved Critical (Unarmed), Improved Initiative, Improved Trip, Power Attack, Precise Attack (Close/Concealment), Seize Initiative, Uncanny Dodge

Equipment:
"Stiletto Knife" Strength-Damage +1 (Feats: Improved Critical) (2)
"Nudie Night-Suit" Concealment (Visuals) 2 (Flaws: Limited to Within Darkness) (2)

Offense:
Unarmed +14 (+3 Damage, DC 18)
Knife +12 (+4 Damage, DC 19)
Initiative +10

Defenses:
Dodge +14 (DC 24), Parry +13 (DC 23), Toughness +4, Fortitude +6, Will +4

Complications:
Motivation (Romanticism)- Anton is a natural romantic, having fallen in love with his stepsister without ever meeting her, simply through his father's descriptions. He does a lot of things on these impulses.
Relationship (Nocturna)- Anton is head-over-heels for Nocturna, and murdered a guy just for coming on to her. When she betrays him because of this (and switches her love to Batman), he swears revenge.

Total: Abilities: 76 / Skills: 48--24 / Advantages: 13 / Powers: 0 / Defenses: 12 (125)

-The Night-Slayer was originally The Night-Thief, a born romantic who fell in love with his step-sister Nocturna (technically not illegal, but it still feels gross somehow, despite them not growing up together), forming a criminal duo with her in his night-suit so that he could bestow upon her all the jewels she naturally deserved. I have an old Detective Comics featuring this pair, from some unknown source (I wasn't into DC as a kid, so it must've been a mystery double-pack or something), and I thought it was pretty silly. This dude had a goofy '80s bowl-haircut and moustache, and his suit was REALLY silly-looking- skin-tight and black, it was shadowed so as to make him look like a nude from a Michelangelo painting or something, so that in every panel you could see clenched fists and toes, as well as individually-sculpted butt-cheeks, though his ultra-thin costume. I wonder if that's how women feel when they see the "Nudes with Painted-On Clothing" on ladies in comics?

-In any case, this guy actually beat on Batman for a good while (Bats was drugged by Nocturna, and was not himself, so Night-Thief had a ton of free hits), but Nocturna (who'd rejected him for killing somebody at night- "murdering the night" she called it) shot him to protect Batman, whom she was also deeply attracted to. Anton went nuts, changed his name to "Night-Slayer" and tried to murder Nocturna, but she was sent off in an air balloon and never see again. Nocturna would return Post-Crisis in a new form, but Anton was lost to the ether.

-He's a PL 8.5 Martial Artist type, enough to challenge a PL 10-11-ish Pre-Crisis '80s Batman in hand-to-hand combat (particularly if Batman is drugged). His "Who's Who" bio actually calls him an expert in many martial arts, but "not a master" in any of them. He's also ultra-agile, super-athletic (his trademark is scampering around in the dark so fast you can't really spot him) and nigh-impossible to fight in darkness. Batman once had to capture him in a bright room just to hold him down.
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Re: Jab’s Builds (Ace! Bat-Mite! Jason Todd! Nocturna!)

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Personally, anybody who uses the same epic means of transportation as Team Rocket, The Great Leslie, and Carl Fredrickson is a top tier character in my book. But add in the fact that she's one of those genuinely tragic characters to enter the bat books who was not only an antagonist, but also not afraid to express her emotions when it came to how much she cared about others (take a lesson there, Selina Kyle), showed a lot of depth. Had she not been stabbed by her step-brother, it's entirely possible that she and Bruce could have been happy together, with his money being enough to handle her medical needs and the lifestyle she had accustomed to, but having her actually be someone who loved both him and Jason. The money didn't hurt, but the feelings seemed genuine either way.
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Zebra-Man

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ZEBRA-MAN I (Jacob Baker)
Created By:
Bill Finger & Sheldon Moldoff
First Appearance: Detective Comics #275 (1960)
Role: Jobber Villain
Group Affiliations: None

-The original Zebra-Man is a goofy one-off Silver Age villain- a scientist who irradiated his entire body with "Diamagnetism", allowing him to attract and repel everything BUT metals from his body. This energy covers his body with black & white stripes, so of course he calls himself "Zebra-Man" and goes on a crime spree. He befuddles Batman, irradiating him with the same energy, forcing Robin to go it alone because Batman has no inhibitor belt to control it. Ultimately, Batman defeats the villain by using the powers to attract Zebra-Man to himself, and both of them to Gotham City PD.

-All in all, it's actually pretty clear he was just a means to an end- to sell a "Wacky Batman Cover" issue. See, back in the '60s, Batman tended to have all manner of outlandish things happen to him on the covers, making young kids want to buy the book to check out what was in it. Stuff like him wearing different cowls, becoming a baby, or whatever the hell. Goofy Silver Age stuff. And this issue features a blurb about the mystery of "THE ZEBRA BATMAN!" showing off the white and black lines all over the character. Zebra-Man isn't even on the cover! It was literally sold based off of what the villain did to him. Then he never showed up again.

-A second Zebra-Man, possibly related to this one, appears as one of Kobra's agents "Strike Force Kobra"- he has magnetic powers, but doesn't appear anywhere but in the background. A "New 52" version is called Vortex.
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Re: The Night-Slayer

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Jabroniville wrote: Tue Sep 07, 2021 3:04 am Image
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THE NIGHT-SLAYER (Anton Knight, aka The Night-Thief)
Created By:
Doug Moench & Gene Colan
First Appearance: Detective Comics #529 (Aug. 1983)
Role: Nearly-Nude Martial Artist
Mental Problems: Obsession For Nocturna
PL 9 (125)
STRENGTH
3 STAMINA 4 AGILITY 6
FIGHTING 12 DEXTERITY 5
INTELLIGENCE 2 AWARENESS 3 PRESENCE 3

Skills:
Acrobatics 8 (+14)
Athletics 11 (+14)
Close Combat (Unarmed) 2 (+14)
Expertise (Cat Burglar) 8 (+10)
Insight 2 (+5)
Intimidation 2 (+5)
Perception 5 (+8)
Sleight of Hand 2 (+7)
Stealth 8 (+14)

Advantages:
Accurate Attack, Agile Feint, Chokehold, Equipment (Knife, Suit), Extraordinary Effort, Fast Grab, Improved Critical (Unarmed), Improved Initiative, Improved Trip, Power Attack, Precise Attack (Close/Concealment), Seize Initiative, Uncanny Dodge

Equipment:
"Stiletto Knife" Strength-Damage +1 (Feats: Improved Critical) (2)
"Nudie Night-Suit" Concealment (Visuals) 2 (Flaws: Limited to Within Darkness) (2)

Offense:
Unarmed +14 (+3 Damage, DC 18)
Knife +12 (+4 Damage, DC 19)
Initiative +10

Defenses:
Dodge +14 (DC 24), Parry +13 (DC 23), Toughness +4, Fortitude +6, Will +4

Complications:
Motivation (Romanticism)- Anton is a natural romantic, having fallen in love with his stepsister without ever meeting her, simply through his father's descriptions. He does a lot of things on these impulses.
Relationship (Nocturna)- Anton is head-over-heels for Nocturna, and murdered a guy just for coming on to her. When she betrays him because of this (and switches her love to Batman), he swears revenge.

Total: Abilities: 76 / Skills: 48--24 / Advantages: 13 / Powers: 0 / Defenses: 12 (125)

-The Night-Slayer was originally The Night-Thief, a born romantic who fell in love with his step-sister Nocturna (technically not illegal, but it still feels gross somehow, despite them not growing up together), forming a criminal duo with her in his night-suit so that he could bestow upon her all the jewels she naturally deserved. I have an old Detective Comics featuring this pair, from some unknown source (I wasn't into DC as a kid, so it must've been a mystery double-pack or something), and I thought it was pretty silly. This dude had a goofy '80s bowl-haircut and moustache, and his suit was REALLY silly-looking- skin-tight and black, it was shadowed so as to make him look like a nude from a Michelangelo painting or something, so that in every panel you could see clenched fists and toes, as well as individually-sculpted butt-cheeks, though his ultra-thin costume. I wonder if that's how women feel when they see the "Nudes with Painted-On Clothing" on ladies in comics?

-In any case, this guy actually beat on Batman for a good while (Bats was drugged by Nocturna, and was not himself, so Night-Thief had a ton of free hits), but Nocturna (who'd rejected him for killing somebody at night- "murdering the night" she called it) shot him to protect Batman, whom she was also deeply attracted to. Anton went nuts, changed his name to "Night-Slayer" and tried to murder Nocturna, but she was sent off in an air balloon and never see again. Nocturna would return Post-Crisis in a new form, but Anton was lost to the ether.

-He's a PL 8.5 Martial Artist type, enough to challenge a PL 10-11-ish Pre-Crisis '80s Batman in hand-to-hand combat (particularly if Batman is drugged). His "Who's Who" bio actually calls him an expert in many martial arts, but "not a master" in any of them. He's also ultra-agile, super-athletic (his trademark is scampering around in the dark so fast you can't really spot him) and nigh-impossible to fight in darkness. Batman once had to capture him in a bright room just to hold him down.
When I saw this I thought 'He looks like Midnight Man' (a Marvel character) and then I remembered his name is Anton as well.
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Re: The Night-Slayer

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M4C8 wrote: Tue Sep 07, 2021 1:39 pm When I saw this I thought 'He looks like Midnight Man' (a Marvel character) and then I remembered his name is Anton as well.
Never mind that the same man created both characters, and created Midnight Man only the year before!
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Jabroniville wrote: Tue Sep 07, 2021 6:02 am -A second Zebra-Man, possibly related to this one, appears as one of Kobra's agents "Strike Force Kobra"- he has magnetic powers, but doesn't appear anywhere but in the background. A "New 52" version is called Vortex.
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Re: Jab’s Builds (Bat-Mite! Jason Todd! Nocturna! Zebra-Man!)

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Ace the Bathound was one of those characters that never made much sense to me outside of being the dog of an older, retired Bruce Wayne. Someone like Superman having a dog made sense because, well, Superman's a farm boy at heart, symbol of America, and a dog is basically the embodiment of all things wholesome, good and loyal. It just "fits" Superman's concept. Whereas Batman having a dog is just kind of weird unless it's perhaps Alfred's dog that he keeps around in case of trouble.

Bat-Mite is someone I actually can see working, albeit infrequently the way Mister Mxyzptlk should be used. The idea of a Batman fanboy from another dimension who shows to make a "boring" Batman adventure more exciting is actually a fun twist on the Mxyzptlk concept. It could actually be used to help flesh out ideas about the "5-D Imps", like how they can possibly only come to Earth if they have a strong connection to a mortal of sufficient renown.

Then again, I'd also want to establish a few things about 5-D Imps, since they've gotten crazy over time. I'd basically make it clear that they aren't literally higher dimensional beings who can effortlessly take out the Anti-Monitor or some such. The 5-D Imp thing is something Myx tells Superman because at the time Clark wasn't sold on magic being real. But they are basically powerful other dimensional magical beings who can do some localized reality warping, though a lot of what they pull off is illusions. They are still incredibly powerful, but they do have rules they have to follow, limitations, and they aren't unbeatable. Myx would never, for instance, try to annoy Darkseid, because Darkseid could end him.

Bat-Mite also has an issue where he easily lends himself to being a parody of fanboys in the Superboy Prime vein. So I don't trust him to be used by a lot of modern writers. Jason Aaron would write Bat-Mite as complaining about how Tim Drake is bi-sexual now to mock fans who aren't fans of the change.
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