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War Machine

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WAR MACHINE (James Rhodes, aka Iron Man II)
Created By:
David Michelinie & Bob Layton
First Appearance: Iron Man #118 (Jan. 1979), #170 (May 1983- as Iron Man), #282 (Sept. 1992- as War Machine)
Role: Powersuit Guy, Flying Brick/Blaster, Replacement Black Guy, EXTREEEME Replacement, Vitriolic Best Buddy, Black Best Friend
Group Affiliations: The Avengers, S.H.I.E.L.D., Force Works, Sentinel Squad O*N*E, U.S. Marine Corps, The Crew, The Initiative
Avengers Grade: B-Level
PL 11 (222)
STRENGTH
3/12 STAMINA 4 AGILITY 3
FIGHTING 9 DEXTERITY 5
INTELLIGENCE 2 AWARENESS 2 PRESENCE 2

Skills:
Athletics 4 (+7, +16 Armor)
Close Combat (Unarmed) 1 (+10)
Deception 4 (+6)
Expertise (Business) 6 (+8)
Expertise (Military) 9 (+11)
Insight 4 (+6)
Intimidation 8 (+10)
Investigation 4 (+6)
Perception 6 (+8)
Stealth 2 (+5)
Technology 5 (+7)
Vehicles 9 (+14)

Advantages:
All-Out Attack, Diehard, Equipment (Gear in Suit- Radio & stuff), Improved Aim, Improved Critical (Blasts) 2, Improved Smash, Interpose, Move-By Action, Power Attack, Precise Attack 2 (Ranged/Cover & Concealment), Ranged Attack 6, Teamwork

Powers:
"War Machine Armor" (Flaws: Removable) (Feats: Restricted 2- Only Rhodey, Remote Control) [99]
Enhanced Strength 9 (18)
Protection 8 (Extras: Impervious 9) (17)
Immunity 6 (Cold, Heat, Radiation, Pressure, Suffocation 2) (6)
"Boot Rockets" Flight 9 (1,000 mph) (18)

"Targetting & Environmental Sensors"
Enhanced Advantages 4: Extraordinary Effort, Improved Disarm, Improved Initiative, Withstand Damage (4)
Enhanced Dodge 2 & Parry 1 (3)
"Armor Sensors" Senses 13 (Extended & Infravision, Extended Hearing, Radar 4, Detect Energy- Ranged, Acute & Accurate, Direction & Distance Sense) (13)

"Guns Aplenty" Blast 11 (Extras: Multiattack) (36) -- (41)
  • AE: "Repulsor Rays/Flamethrower/Heat-Seekers" Blast 11 (Feats: Split, Variable Energy Descriptor, Homing 2, Penetrating 4) (30)
  • AE: "Uni-Beam" Damage 11 (Feats: Penetrating 5) (Extras: Area- 30ft. Line) (Flaws: Distracting) (16)
  • AE: "Electro-Magnetic Pulse" Nullify Technology 8 (Extras: Area- 30ft. Burst, Sustained) (Flaws: Touch Range) (24)
  • AE: "Shoulder-Mounted Rocket Launcher" Blast 11 (Extras: Area- 30ft. Burst) (33)
  • AE: "Gauntlet Blade" Strength-Damage +1 (Feats: Penetrating 4) (5)
-- (120 points)

Offense:
Unarmed +10 (+3 Damage, DC 18)
Suit Unarmed +10 (+12 Damage, DC 27)
Gauntlet Blade +9 (+13 Damage, DC 28)
Repulsor Rays +11 (+11 Ranged Damage, DC 26)
Guns +11 (+11 Ranged Damage, DC 26)
Rocket Launcher/Uni-Beam +11 Area (+11 Damage, DC 26)
EM Pulse +8 Area (+8 Nullify, DC 18)
Initiative +7

Defenses:
"Out of Suit" Dodge +8 (DC 18), Parry +9 (DC 19), Toughness +4, Fortitude +7, Will +7
"In Suit" Dodge +10 (DC 20), Parry +10 (DC 20), Toughness +12 (+5 Impervious), Fortitude +7, Will +7

Complications:
Relationship (Tony Stark)

Total: Abilities: 60 / Skills: 62--31 / Advantages: 19 / Powers: 99 / Defenses: 14 (222)

James Rhodes- The Ultimate "Black Best Friend":
-DC had John Stewart, and so Marvel had James Rhodes- the "Black Replacement Hero". In what was then a unique and new concept, the main hero had to step down, and his replacement turned out to be a black man! "Rhodey" has since ended up being a permanent "Sidekick" sort, generally following Stark's lead, replacing him on minor books, or being a "Black Best Friend" type of guy- one of Marvel's most reliable C-level characters that people actually like and respect, as he'd earned the role and put in the work.

-James Rhodes had been introduced as Tony's personal pilot- a man with a military background as a Marine and combat pilot who was retconned in as having rescued Tony when he first broke free from his captors in his first prototype suit, and quickly became part of the inner circle, having already known Tony's secret identity. In a 1983 story, Iron Man ran the story of Tony relapsing into alcoholism after the manipulations of Obadiah Stane, necessitating Rhodes taking the role of Iron Man full-time. He threw on the Iron Man armor after Tony had jobbed to the super-villain Magma (unrelated to the New Mutant) and defeated the villain. As most super-heroes (even many AVENGERS) didn't know Tony was the guy in the first place, it was pretty simple to act as if he'd been the same guy the entire time, and "Gadget-Based" heroes are generally the easiest to replace anyhow. Rhodes & Morley Erwin- a Stark tech guy- both quit Stark International as Stane took it over and continued on as solo operatives, trying to figure out Tony's high-tech gear.

-Rhodey was thus the Iron Man that took part in Secret Wars, though had probably the least to do out of all the major heroes (all I remember is Jim Shooter giving him the odd "Black Guy" dialogue of "Torch, you got no class, man!" or asking Reed if he was surprised to find a black man within the armor when Reed was inspecting the arms of the suit). Rhodes fought many of the old Iron Man foes like the Mandarin & Radioactive Man, taking on mercenary jobs to pay for the armor's upkeep while Erwin fixed it. Eventually, Tony recovered from his alcoholism and returned- him taking back the armor was "justified" when it was shown that since the armor was set to respond to Tony's brainwaves, Rhodes was slowly being driven to erratic behavior by wearing the suit. During a rampage in which he nearly killed Vibro, Tony had to put on a new "testbed" armor (resembling his original suit) to stop Rhodes and calm him down. Rhodes didn't disappear, however- Shaman of Alpha Flight sent Rhodes on a spirit journey that cured his mental troubles. He even kept going as Iron Man with Tony's assistance! However, tragedy struck as Stane returned and sent a bomb that injured Rhodes & killed Erwin- Tony thus had to suit up as Iron Man once more, developing the "Silver Centurion" suit to defeat Stane as "Iron Monger". A two-year story arc had ended with Tony FINALLY going "Back To Basics" in 1985.

War Machine:
-Rhodey continued on as a key Stark ally at this point, as Tony built a new corporation and stayed in California. Rhodes put on the red & gold again to fight A.I.M. but was badly burned in the process, further "justfying" Tony staying on. He backed Tony during Armor Wars, and even refused to wear the armor when Tony was left paralyzed by Kathy Dare, saying the history wasn't all that good between him and the suit. Rhodes reluctantly put on the suit to fight the Mandarin at the behest of the Chinese government so Tony could enter the country for medical assistance, but Tony remotely-controls another suit and two armors team up with the Mandarin to fight some Makluan dragons.

-In 1992, Tony was considered dead, and Rhodes replaced him again, this time in a BITCHING black variant of the suit. Me, I just though the shoulder rocket launcher and multiple guns were the coolest thing EVER, but I was like twelve. When Tony quickly returned (infuriating Rhodes, who was angry at being kept in the dark about Stark's survival), Rhodes thus did the "DC" thing and spun off into his own identity, creating War Machine. Taking it to the EXTREME, or something (one Nick Fury bio-card actually talks about him being "so full of rage"). If you believe John Byrne's rants on his forum, he blames that on Marvel hiring a bunch of writers brought up on DC's stories of multiple versions of each hero- cross-pollination of writers did in fact have some effects like this (DC's best-selling '80s book was its most Marvel-like- The New Teen Titans), and by the '90s, Marvel had all three of the Avengers Big Three operate simultaneously with their spin-off counterparts, all of whom had replaced them previously.

-In this position, Rhodes got a short-lived War Machine title (this was the '90s, when EVERYONE had their own solo book) and took Tony's spot on the Avenger West Coast in that book's dying days. He was therefore on the much-derided successor Force Works, which was an extreme failure. Rhodes & Stark feuded over War Machine's actions in an African country, and Stark demanded the armor back- the two fought and were ultimately captured by the Mandarin, and Force Works had to save them. Stark & Rhodes thus reconciled... but then we hit The Crossing and then Onslaught. Rhodey lost the War Machine suit in a Time War story involving Kang, but gained a suit of "Eidolon Warwear" that didn't last, using it to fight Stark, who had revealed an allegiance to Immortus. Stark broke his mind control thanks to Rhodes fighting him, but sacrificed himself. Rhodes sacrifices the Warwear by downloading it into the Stark-Fujikawa database to prevent the new owners from discovering the Iron Man armors, and Rhodes is thus written out of comics alongside Tony.

Rhodes Returns:
-So multiple shenanigans then ensue- Tony is dead for years and there's a "Teen Tony" running around, and Rhodes is running a marine recovery business, but it soon goes bankrupt thanks to embezzlement and Rhodes now living a higher-end lifestyle. He helps a returned Tony fight an evil War Machine, then shows up in The Crew, an "all black heroes" book written by Christopher Priest after his sister is killed in "Little Mogadishu" in New York. He, Josiah X & Kasper Cole arrest the killers (drug dealers), but The Crew is soon cancelled- he's briefly one of the "O*N*E Sentinel" people, instructing the suit wearers as they oversee the X-Mansion.

-Rhodes finally returns as War Machine following Bendis taking over Marvel- with Tony now front and center of superheroics thanks to Civil War and the SuperHuman Registration Act, Rhodes is now his #2 as an armored hero once more. He's the director of Camp Hammond and helps out during Secret Invasion, teaming with the Winter Guard against Skrulls. Around this time, Rhodes appears in the Iron Man mega-hit film, with Terrence Howard being replaced right away by Don Cheadle, who debuts as "The Iron Patriot", then War Machine, in Iron Man 2. All this leads to Rhodes continuously being used in the books, even as Tony gets revamped following HIS own popularity post-movie (as his guilt over causing Civil War and then putting Norman Osborn in power takes a while to dissipate)- he forms "Team War Machine" with some former Stark allies, going from Christos Gage to Grek Pak writing a solo book.

One Damn Thing After Another (aka "Marvel Post-2005"):
-Rhodey becomes one of the characters who perhaps suffers most from Marvel's lack of focus and random-ass writers re-writing the book EVERY TIME they take something over, as he changes identities and concepts like eight times over ten years. He becomes the U.S. government's own "Iron Man" but this appears dropped in spectacularly-quick fashion as he fakes his death and secretly operates as Iron Man while Tony "retires", then Tony quickly gets that suit back and Rhodes works for S.H.I.E.L.D. as the "Iron Patriot" (mimicking Iron Man 2)... debuting the look in Gambit of all places. His father dies when terrorists attack, and Rhodes quickly returns as War Machine (the Iron Patriot book was cancelled after a humiliatingly-short five issues by Ales Kot- some nobody). Then he's made Secretary of Defense, but attacks Thanos during Civil War II and is randomly and pointlessly killed- a mindless death even by modern comics standards. This sets off the whole event, as Carol Danvers had used the foresight powers of Ulysses to tackle Thanos, which cost them Jim's life.

-And even by modern standards Rhodes is back quickly, as everyone ignores that and Tony uses some DNA-altering stuff that'd saved him to restore Rhodes to life. Rhodes suffers from PTSD over his multiple injuries and resigns as War Machine... but then pops up piloting the larger mech suit the Manticore. When he finds out that the Punisher has been using the War Machine armor to kill HYDRA agents, Rhodes convinces him to return it and turn himself in. In the Iron Man 2020 event, Tony disappears and Rhodes is back as War Machine (AGAIN? That's like five times in seven years!), leading a new "Force Works" consisting of U.S. Agent, Solo, Gauntlet, Quake & Mockingbird on missions. Gauntlet is hurt & Solo quits, and the team faces a bunch of Deathloks.

-And that's where we're at today- a dozen writers with a dozen different concepts all messing about with a guy, mostly because he's a distant #2 armored guy to Tony Stark... but he's part of the movies and one of Marvel's top black heroes so you HAVE to use him, resulting in... this. Being the "Also Ran" Iron Man means that Rhodes gets replaced quickly, gets his ass kicked alot, and frequently gets called in to whatever big idea Tony has now. This includes The Initiative and Civil War, where he's a prime toady, even though usually Rhodes is the moralistic one getting Stark to calm down. But hey, it's a living. Rhodey farts about, not really doing too much, and always showing up in books that get cancelled quickly. He's gone all over the place, as Marvel desperately tries to find a spot for the guy. But really- he'll always be the U.S. Agent to Tony's Cap, because that's how it is for replacements. Always has been, always will be. Rhodes can be a good character when they're actually trying with him, but they usually just kinda toss him out there.

You Better Watch Out! Cuz I'm a War Machine!:
-The War Machine armor is basically the same as Iron Man's standard armor, with some modifications to the Repulsor array. The Repulsors are less powerful, in exchange for getting more out of the Variable Descriptor, allowing Rhodes to do all those flame blasts and electro-shocks or whatever that he's been shown having (tech guys can be as annoying as mages for just pulling stuff out of their asses), as well as firing Homing Rockets. War Machine is a PL 11, losing power in the Area Attacks as well, but being more versatile, with an explosive Burst Area Rocket Launcher, a Multiattack Blast, and even a Gauntlet Blade for extra melee damage. As a whole, he's much cheaper than Tony by virtue of being only a standard smart guy rather than a super-genius, but most of his Combat Advantages exist outside the Armor set-up, allowing him to use them whenever he wants (he would beat the CRAP out of Stark in hand-to-hand). Notably, he's +11 at Range regardless of how his suit's working.

-Optional Attachments: A later suit from a 2007 series allowed him to "merge" with other technology (like tanks and jets & stuff) and gain some Regeneration on the suit. Another version includes some Stealth capabilities like Camouflage (Partial Concealment). Plus there's one with the ability to go Insubstantial 4, Concealment from all mechanical systems, etc. Like Tony, there can be a lot of variable traits put onto any armor, and who knows how many of them will be forgotten by the time the next writer comes along?

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WAR MACHINE (James Rhodes, aka Iron Man II)- Eidolon Warwear Version
Created By:
David Michelinie & Bob Layton
First Appearance: Iron Man #118 (Jan. 1979), #170 (May 1983- as Iron Man), #282 (Sept. 1992- as War Machine)
Role: Powersuit Guy, Flying Brick/Blaster, Replacement Black Guy, EXTREEEME Replacement, Vitriolic Best Buddy, Black Best Friend
Group Affiliations: The Avengers, S.H.I.E.L.D., Force Works, Sentinel Squad O*N*E, U.S. Marine Corps, The Crew, The Initiative
Avengers Grade: B-Level
PL 11 (258)
STRENGTH
3/12 STAMINA 4 AGILITY 3
FIGHTING 9 DEXTERITY 5
INTELLIGENCE 2 AWARENESS 2 PRESENCE 2

Skills:
Athletics 4 (+7, +16 Armor)
Close Combat (Unarmed) 1 (+10)
Deception 4 (+6)
Expertise (Business) 6 (+8)
Expertise (Military) 9 (+11)
Insight 4 (+6)
Intimidation 8 (+10)
Investigation 4 (+6)
Perception 6 (+8)
Stealth 2 (+5)
Technology 5 (+7)
Vehicles 9 (+14)

Advantages:
All-Out Attack, Diehard, Equipment (Gear in Suit- Radio & stuff), Improved Aim, Improved Critical (Blasts) 2, Improved Smash, Interpose, Move-By Action, Power Attack, Precise Attack 2 (Ranged/Cover & Concealment), Ranged Attack 6, Teamwork

Powers:
Enhanced Strength 9 [18]
Protection 8 (Extras: Impervious 9) [17]
Immunity 10 (Life Support) [10]
"Boot Rockets" Flight 9 (1,000 mph) [18]
Movement 1 (Space Travel) [2]

"Targetting & Environmental Sensors"
Enhanced Advantages 4: Extraordinary Effort, Improved Disarm, Improved Initiative, Withstand Damage [4]
"Full Battle Mode" Enhanced Dodge 2 & Parry 1 [3]
"Armor Sensors" Senses 13 (Extended & Infravision, Extended Hearing, Radar 4, Detect Energy- Ranged, Acute & Accurate, Direction & Distance Sense) [13]

"Right Arm- Blaster" Blast 11 (Extras: Penetrating 8) (30) -- [31]
  • AE: "Left Arm- Blade" Strength-Damage +2 (Extras: Penetrating 6) (8)

"Unskin Drones" Summon Robots 2 (Extras: Multiple Minions +8) (Flaws: Feedback) [18]

Offense:
Unarmed +10 (+3 Damage, DC 18)
Suit Unarmed +10 (+12 Damage, DC 27)
Blade +9 (+13 Damage, DC 28)
Blasts +11 (+11 Ranged Damage, DC 26)
Initiative +7

Defenses:
"Out of Suit" Dodge +8 (DC 18), Parry +9 (DC 19), Toughness +4, Fortitude +7, Will +7
"With the Eidolon Warwear" Dodge +10 (DC 20), Parry +10 (DC 20), Toughness +12 (+5 Impervious), Fortitude +7, Will +7

Complications:
Relationship (Tony Stark)

Total: Abilities: 60 / Skills: 62--31 / Advantages: 19 / Powers: 134 / Defenses: 14 (258)

-Partway through his 1990s series (in 1995), War Machine got a suit of alien bio-armor called the Eidolon Warwear, allowing him to basically form the suit around himself (making it a Power, not a Device). The suit makes him cost 257 points.
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Re: Jab’s Builds! (Guardsman! Cobalt Man! War Machine!)

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Rhodey and Carol's relationship came out of nowhere for me, I may be wrong but I don't remember any build up to it at all, no hints anywhere that they were into each other, Rhodey just sort appeared in Carol's book with both of them acting like they were in a serious relationship and had been together for a while.
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Morley Erwin

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MORLEY ERWIN
Created By:
Dennis O'Neil & Luke McDonnell
First Appearance: Iron Man #168 (March 1983)
Role: Science Guy (to Rhodey)
Group Affiliations: Stark International

-Morley Erwin was kind of a means to an end. A brilliant engineer, he was an electrical guy who joined Stark International, befriending both Tony Stark & James Rhodes. When Tony relapsed into alcoholism, Morley was the guy who split off with Rhodey to work on the "Iron Man" concept as independent operatives. Morley was no Tony Stark, but he could reliably fix up the suit if it was damaged. He and his equally-gifted sister Clytemnestra were thus important to Rhodes in his days as Iron Man. Sadly, as soon as it was time for Stark to return, Obadiah Stane, who'd taken over his business, sent a bomb that killed Morley and injured Rhodes.

-Erwin was a non-combatant and a pretty good tech guy, but like... probably Technology +10 or +12, not Tony's +22.
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Clytemnestra Erwin

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CLYTEMNESTRA ERWIN
Created By:
Dennis O'Neil & Luke McDonnell
First Appearance: Iron Man #171 (June 1983)
Role: Science Girl (to Rhodey)
Group Affiliations: Stark International

-Clytemnestra was a pretty, bespectacled scientist who was the sister of Morley, and also recruited from Stark Industries to help Rhodey be Iron Man. She had also joined Tony's start-up, soon developing feelings for him, even though he was a mess at this point. When Morley was killed by Obadiah Stane, Clytemnestra was heartbroken, and inwardly blamed Tony for it. She eventually BETRAYED him, telling A.I.M. where Tony and his armor were, trying to have him assassinated. Tony managed to escape injury and battled A.I.M. on their secret island alongside Rhodes (in the old Iron Man suit, suffering burns in the process that end his career as Iron Man) and "Cly" was killed in the battle. She lasted five years- two longer than her brother- with the original writers Michelinie & Layton writing the story where she went bad. Not sure if there was some "lol okay let's get rid of the characters we didn't create" in there.
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Re: Jab’s Builds! (Guardsman! Cobalt Man! War Machine!)

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M4C8 wrote: Mon Jul 18, 2022 7:37 pm Rhodey and Carol's relationship came out of nowhere for me, I may be wrong but I don't remember any build up to it at all, no hints anywhere that they were into each other, Rhodey just sort appeared in Carol's book with both of them acting like they were in a serious relationship and had been together for a while.
What's sad is I almost prefer that to today's more typical "rapid-fire relationship" tendencies for people to meet and fall in love instantly. Though I guess that's the same way they pulled the Torch/Medusa relationship- off-panel.
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The Manticore

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THE MANTICORE (Gear)
Created By:
Dan Slott & Valerio Schiti
First Appearance: Tony Stark- Iron Man #2 (July 2018)
Role: Elite Mecha
Group Affiliations: Baintronics

-The Manticore is a giant mech suit created by Sunset Bain's Baintronics company, using illegally-acquired Stark-Tech. Iron Man & War Machine arrived at a demonstration for potential buyers as soon as Tony learned of the theft, and fought the suit, alongside the Baintronics head of security, Gauntlet (a former Initiative training coach also created by Dan Slott). War Machine, suffering from PTSD, panicked due to past trauma and ejected, and Tony had to hack the Manticore and eject ITS pilot to save Rhodey. The Manticore ran wild and nearly killed Bain and others watching, but Rhodey bravely jumped in and piloted the suit himself. He KO'd Gauntlet, who had grasped Iron Man, and said he felt surprisingly comfortable in the mech, as it felt more like a vehicle than armor. Tony then bought the suit from Baintronics himself and let Rhodey use it. The Manticore suit was then used by Rhodes against a variety of people, but was destroyed by Ultron Pym during a fight, and has never been used again.

-The Manticore is a very durable suit, likely Toughness +14-15 at least, using Flight 7, Microwave Blasters, Multiattack Guns, and Missiles.
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Re: Jab’s Builds! (Guardsman! Cobalt Man! War Machine!)

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Not to be confused with the earlier Manticore http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/manticog.htm
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Dirge

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DIRGE
Created By:
Dan Abnett & Yancey Labat
First Appearance: War Machine #23 (Feb. 1996)
Role: Mirror Image Villain
Group Affiliations: N/A
PL 10 (217)
STRENGTH
3/12 STAMINA 4 AGILITY 3
FIGHTING 7 DEXTERITY 5
INTELLIGENCE 2 AWARENESS 2 PRESENCE 0

Skills:
Close Combat (Unarmed) 1 (+8)
Expertise (Mercenary) 6 (+8)
Insight 4 (+6)
Intimidation 7 (+7)
Perception 5 (+7)
Technology 5 (+7)

Advantages:
All-Out Attack, Improved Critical (Blasts), Improved Smash, Power Attack, Ranged Attack 4, Startle

Powers:
Enhanced Strength 9 [18]
Protection 8 (Extras: Impervious 9) [17]
Immunity 10 (Life Support) [10]
"Boot Rockets" Flight 9 (1,000 mph) [18]
Movement 1 (Space Travel) [2]
"Experience in Zero-G" Movement (Environmental Adaptation- Zero Gravity) [2]

"Targetting & Environmental Sensors"
Enhanced Advantages 4: Extraordinary Effort, Improved Disarm, Improved Initiative, Withstand Damage [4]
"Full Battle Mode" Enhanced Dodge 2 & Parry 1 [3]
"Armor Sensors" Senses 13 (Extended & Infravision, Extended Hearing, Radar 4, Detect Energy- Ranged, Acute & Accurate, Direction & Distance Sense) [13]

"Right Arm- Blaster" Blast 11 (Extras: Penetrating 8) (30) -- [31]
  • AE: "Left Arm- Blade" Strength-Damage +2 (Extras: Penetrating 6) (8)
"Unskin Drones" Summon Robots 2 (Extras: Multiple Minions +8) (Flaws: Feedback) [18]

Offense:
Unarmed +8 (+3 Damage, DC 18)
Suit Unarmed +8 (+12 Damage, DC 27)
Blade +7 (+13 Damage, DC 28)
Blasts +9 (+11 Ranged Damage, DC 26)
Initiative +7

Defenses:
"Out of Suit" Dodge +6 (DC 16), Parry +7 (DC 17), Toughness +4, Fortitude +7, Will +5
"With the Eidolon Warwear" Dodge +8 (DC 18), Parry +8 (DC 18), Toughness +12 (+5 Impervious), Fortitude +7, Will +5

Complications:
Motivation (Killing)- Dirge is a sadist who loves battle.

Total: Abilities: 52 / Skills: 28--14 / Advantages: 9 / Powers: 136 / Defenses: 6 (217)

-A single-issue villain, Dirge was another Eidolon Warwear armor guy, and fought War Machine in his solo book. He was a mercenary hired by Kang on missions across time and space, and told to defend a set of armor that Tony Stark, mind-controlled by "Kang" (actually Immortus) had placed on a satellite. War Machine, directed by Skye, the woman who gave him the Eidolon suit, went to break it, and Dirge came up quoting some insane '90s Extreeeeeeeeeeeme villain babble "I must see your eyes as I take your lives! I need to see the life flicker and then depart! I want to see the eyes glaze cold and sightless! Is my only pleasure!". Thankfully Rhodes just makes fun of him and then fights. His inexperience with fighting in zero gravity hampered him and Dirge threatened a fatal blow, but Skye distracted him with a laser weapon. War Machine escaped but Skye was fatally wounded by Dirge- an enraged Rhodey then attacked him in hand-to-hand. Dirge was surprised, unused to such methods, and sent some "drones" to wipe out Rhodey's armor, but War Machine burned them off and their armors attempted to invade each other mechanically. The armors thus merged, Rhodes seeing Dirge's past, and ultimately his suit overpowered Dirge's, which turned on him and killed him from the inside.

-Dirge was a powerful mercenary who hampered Rhodes using "New Villain Stink" and his experience with fighting at zero gravity. He is a far less well-rounded fighter, simply blasting away, and is even taken aback when Rhodey fights him in hand-to-hand, being unused to that. So he's just a cheaper version of "Eidolon Warwear Rhodes", but at PL 10, all-out attack-y standards.
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Re: Jab’s Builds! (Guardsman! Cobalt Man! War Machine!)

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It's funny, yeah, Cobalt Man doesn't really belong in this set, but he still feels like he fits, being an "Armor Guy", his suit even straight up being based on Iron Man's.
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Lictor

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LICTOR
Created By:
Dan Abnett & Fred Haynes
First Appearance: War Machine #18 (Sept. 1995)
Role: Evil Alien, One-Off Foe
PL 9 (144)
STRENGTH
8 STAMINA 8 AGILITY 2
FIGHTING 8 DEXTERITY 0
INTELLIGENCE 0 AWARENESS 0 PRESENCE 0

Skills:
Expertise (Alien Hunter) 4 (+8)
Intimidation 8 (+8)
Perception 4 (+4)

Advantages:
All-Out Attack, Power Attack, Ranged Attack 8, Startle

Powers:
Regeneration 10 [20]
"Cloaking" Concealment (Vision, Hearing) [6]
Senses 3 (Acute Scent- Tracking & Ranged) [3]

"Eye Blasts" Blast 10 (20) -- [20]
  • AE: "Claws & Teeth" Strength-Damage +2 (Feats: Split) (Extras: Penetrating 8) (11)
"Shapeshifting Body" Variable 3 (Flaws: Limited to If Sacrificing Other Body Parts) [18]
(examples: sacrifices legs for Winged Flight)

Offense:
Unarmed +8 (+8 Damage, DC 23)
Claws & Teeth +8 (+10 Damage, DC 25)
Eye Blasts +8 (+10 Ranged Damage, DC 25)
Initiative +2

Defenses:
Dodge +8 (DC 18), Parry +8 (DC 18), Toughness +8, Fortitude +8, Will +4

Complications:
Motivation (Hunting)- Lictor appears to just have set targets and try to kill them.

Total: Abilities: 48 / Skills: 16--8 / Advantages: 11 / Powers: 67 / Defenses: 10 (144)

-So the War Machine book largely never mattered to anything, and you can sorta see why with the random goobers poor Rhodey was faced with, as Dan Abnett and his artists just kinda threw "whatever" at him. Lictor is a gigantic humanoid shark-looking guy with a cybernetic lower body (or just claws) and was sent to Earth to kill some dude named Agent Genero, then went after his main target- Rhodey, the wielder of the Eidolon Warwear. Lictor KO'd Hawkeye with an energy blast, then fought War Machine, utilizing a number of mystery tricks like tongue-tentacles to pull him into its mouth, blasts, cloaking stuff, etc. Rhodes gave as good as he got, repeatedly damaging Lictor (even dropping him from a huge height to resist the tentacles). Lictor immediately regenerated all harm and morphed into a snakelike form with wings to give chase, got blasted again, and necessitated War Machine putting out more energy than ever before, finally blowing Lictor to pieces. He never reapeared after this two-issue "all fighting" arc.

-Lictor is fairly pricey for a one-off goon, but kept regenerating from near-KO status repeatedly until a mega-blast put him away. Huge, strong and fast, he was dangerous for a full-issue fight.
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Re: Jab’s Builds! (Guardsman! Cobalt Man! War Machine!)

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Sidney369 wrote: Tue Jul 19, 2022 10:16 pm Not to be confused with the earlier Manticore http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/manticog.htm
Haha, I built Manticore thanks to that bio already :).
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Re: Jab’s Builds! (Guardsman! Cobalt Man! War Machine!)

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Dreadknight is a perfectly fine villain concept, though it does kind of point out how between him, the Black Knight and Valkyrie, there are a lot of winged horses in Marvel. But he'd be perfectly fine as a successor to the original Black Knight's schtick as a science villain with advanced weaponry disguised as medieval weapons. He just needs to have some kind of anti-gravity belt or similar kind of safety feature in case he gets knocked off his horse, having learned from the mistakes of Black Knight #1.



The Guardsman and the Vault are likewise concepts that make perfect sense. A supervillain prison makes sense, and the presence of it should honestly make writers not recycle the the same villains over and over again. Having Vault escape stories were somewhat regular, but it's something that could have been handled in a way to make it not such an obvious issue.

I kind of liked how Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes handled it where there were different prisons for different types of villains, and I think I'd play around with that. The Vault would be the main supervillain prison, but villains could volunteer to be studied over at Project Pegasus in the hopes of using their abilities to further science or of curing them. Project Pegasus could also be the place where villains with higher chances of reform are sent for more advanced therapy.

Meanwhile, villains with a particular theme might be sent to similar places. Like how radiation (especially gamma radiation) based villains were sent to the Cube in Avengers EMH.

The Guardsman armor likewise worked as an easy way to give prison guards the chance to deal with supervillains. The only issue was, naturally, have it designed by Tony Stark. Instead, I'd have the Guardsman and Mandroid armors represent what happens when you don't have someone like Tony Stark on the payroll. The Guardsman armor is designed to be compact enough to fit into the hallways of a normal base, and to rely on mobility and numbers. To have something that compact, you give up a lot of power, and the individual Guardsman suit is probably roughly on par with The Beetle's armor. Meanwhile the Mandroids are closer in power to Iron Man armor, but to do that they each have to be designed to be the size of a Hulkbuster and they still aren't as powerful or versatile.

A squad of "Beetle" level suits piloted by skilled soldiers working together should actually be able to handle a single supervillain, but one-on-one they aren't going to be a match for the average superhero or supervillain. But they could be able to keep supervillain prisoners contained, especially if they have specially designed gear for each villain.



Morley and Cly Erwin were fine additions to the Iron Man book, being able to keep Rhodey's armor running and dealing with the ramifications of Stane taking over Stark's company, namely having to destroy Tony's spare armors, and having to help Tony rebuild a new company from the ground up. Sadly, Morley's fate was pretty clear from the get go, as his main role was doing tech support for Rhodey. Once Tony was willing to return to doing tech support, there still needed to be some big action on Stane's part to galvanize Tony into action. Rhodey was a fan favorite that had just spent the last 30 issue or so establishing himself as Iron Man, so he was safe. Cly was a newly introduced pretty female character and had more personality beyond simply being a helpful scientist, so she was safe. That just left poor Morley here, who was redundant as a scientist and as a moral compass, so he made the perfect one to sacrifice to motivate Tony.

Like Jab, I'm unclear if Cly's turn to evil was something that Denny O'neil had planned and that David Michelinie ran with, or if it was a case of Michelinie simply clearing the board of the things O'neil introduced in order to set up his own status quo.

On the one hand, it WAS clear during O'neil's run that Cly did blame Tony for Morley's death, she was angry with him, and for a while she was unclear if she would remain with Tony and Rhodey or not. She eventually did decide to remain with them, but in all honesty, given her anger you could see it being a ploy to remain close enough to Tony to betray him.

On the other hand, Michelinie did spend his first two issues on the book largely dealing with certain plot elements that O'neil had introduced, such as the conflict with AIM, the island AIM had taken over, the satellite Tony had created, and Cly Erwin. That said, Michelinie did so in a way that honestly felt organic and made sense, and didn't feel disrespectful to the previous run. I do think AIM could have been kept around as a regular opponent, and whether Cly needed to go bad or not is up for debate, but having her go bad fit with her previous presentation and helped wrap up the AIM plotline.

Overall, Michelinie was a lot more respectful to O'neil's run than, say, Jason Aaron was to previous Thor writers. Or previous writers of the MCU in general.



Cobalt Man . . . I got nothing. He seems like such a do nothing loser, though honestly the name is cool and a blue power armor villain is fine.
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Rhodey was a solid example of how Michelinie added to the Iron Man mythos, creating someone who would become such a vital part of Iron Man's supporting cast and a hero in his own right. His retcon origin helped explain how Tony made it back to civilization and gave Tony someone to partner up with who had a very different feel from Happy Hogan. Between Rhodey, Bethany, Abe, Scott Lang, Michelinie really did add a lot to the Marvel Universe.

Rhodey also showed the problem of taking a supporting character and making them a hero in their own right. A big part of Rhodey's charm is how he plays off with Tony. The two are more fun together than they are apart. However, by having Rhodey become Iron Man and then War Machine, it showed that Rhodey could function as a hero on his own. But then you either have to split him off from Tony (in which case you lose their fun interaction) or you keep him around, but since he isn't the main hero he often winds up jobbing to make Tony look good (like he tended to do in the Iron Man animated series). It's why Michelinie had Rhodey suffer trauma in the armor and ensure he wouldn't willingly wear the Iron Man armor again anytime soon (though this was built on things O'neil had established in his own run): to keep Rhodey around without turning Rhodey into a jobber. And sadly, despite having had his own solo book, Rhodey still wound up as a perpetual jobber, sacrificial lamb and not-quite solo hero.

So Rhodey winds up in this weird catch 22 where folks want to see him interacting with Tony, they want him to be a hero in his own right, but they want Tony to have his own solo series. Honestly, I'm not sure how I'd handle it. Rhodey could work well in a team book, but again, you miss out on the interaction between him and Tony. And if you have Rhodey as a supporting cast member in Tony's book, you have to explain why he isn't regularly suiting up in his armor, or you have him helping Tony out as War Machine regularly, and thus it's lessens some of the tension by giving Tony someone equally powerful and capable that he can always rely on.

It's why, incidentally, making Mary Jane Watson a superhero would be a terrible idea.

The Eidolon Warwear is a concept I always loved, and wish it would get explored more. The idea of this alien race that had created these Iron Man-class bio-organic suits and had become an elite fighting force is COOL. The fact that the armor is literally playing some kind of alien death metal during a fight is cool. The whole bit about it being able to shape itself into weapons and remote drones is COOL. And it was a good way to make Rhodey his own hero without having to rely on Tony for tech support.

Again, separating Tony from Rhodey is an issue, and the classic War Machine armor is cool and iconic, so it makes sense that they'd go back to it. But I think the Eidolon armor would be fun to give to someone else and explore that legacy of the Marvel Universe. Like, giving this armor to Sam Alexander instead of making him the new primary Nova would have been a better choice, IMO.
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CLARENCE WARD
Created By:
Mark Ricketts & Tony Harris
First Appearance: Iron Man #87 (Oct. 2004)
Role: Grudge-Holding Rival
Group Affiliations: None

-Introduced and dying in a two-issue arc of Iron Man, the deformed Clarence Ward appears to exist entirely to kill Tony's girlfriend Rumiko Fujikawa and then die. I've never even heard of who the hell his creators are supposed to be! Ward apparently held a grudge against Tony for ruining his company and his reputation, then nearly burning him to death. He stole an Iron Man suit and used it to kill nearly the entire Stark Industries board of directors (including Rumiko), framing Stark for it. A furious Tony battled him, armor to armor, and when Ward revealed his identity... Tony didn't even know who he was! Tony beat him by activating a failsafe in the armor, trapping Ward inside. Tony chose to spare his foe, but a military commander assigned to deal with him shot Ward to death. It was later revealed that Ward was just a pawn of Temujin's.
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Re: Jab’s Builds! (Guardsman! Cobalt Man! War Machine!)

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Ares wrote: Wed Jul 20, 2022 4:24 pm Dreadknight is a perfectly fine villain concept, though it does kind of point out how between him, the Black Knight and Valkyrie, there are a lot of winged horses in Marvel.
The Marvel Pets Handbook covered 5: Aragorn (Black Knight [Whitman]'s first, then the Samantha Parrington Valkyrie), Brightwind (Danielle Moonstar), Hellhorse, Strider (Whitman's 3rd), and Valinor (Whitman's 2nd, then Bloodwraith's). And that's not counting the group entry for the Valkyrior Steeds and the mention of the Aragorn that belonged to the Vatican's Black Knight.
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