Jabroniville wrote: ↑Fri Sep 29, 2017 5:55 am
THOR, GOD OF THUNDER (Thor Odinson, Dr. Donald Blake)
Created By: Stan Lee, Larry Lieber & Jack Kirby
First Appearance: Journey Into Mystery #83 (Aug. 1962)
Role: God, Epic Hero, Supermanalogue (kinda), Power-Cap Definer, Flying Brick
Group Affiliations: The Avengers, The Asgardian Pantheon, The Thor Corps., The God Squad
Avengers Grade: A-Level
PL 14 (262)
STRENGTH 16
STAMINA 14
AGILITY 2
FIGHTING 9
DEXTERITY 0
INTELLIGENCE 2
AWARENESS 3
PRESENCE 4
Skills:
Close Combat (Unarmed) 2 (+11)
Close Combat (Hammer) 1 (+10)
Expertise (Aesir) 8 (+10)
Expertise (History) 2 (+4)
Insight 6 (+9)
Intimidation 11 (+15)
Perception 3 (+6)
Ranged Combat (Hammer) 4 (+12)
Ranged Combat (Lightning) 4 (+12)
Treatment 7 (+9)
Advantages:
Accurate Attack, All-Out Attack, Attractive, Benefit (Status- God), Daze (Intimidation), Diehard, Extraordinary Effort, Fearless, Great Endurance, Improved Critical (Hammer) 4, Improved Smash, Interpose, Last Stand (Ignores Damage for 1 Round w/ HP Spent), Power Attack, Ranged Attack 8, Startle, Takedown 2, Ultimate Effort (Strength), Withstand Damage (Trade Defense for Toughness)
Powers:
"Immortal Aesir"
Power Lifting 5 (50,000 tons) [5]
Protection 1 (Extras: Impervious 13) [14]
Regeneration 2 (Feats: Regrowth) [3]
Immunity 10 (Aging, Starvation & Thirst, Heat, Cold, Disease, Fatigue Effects) [10]
Immunity 4 (Drowning & Suffocation, Poison, Pressure) (Flaws: Limited to Half-Effect) [2]
"Mjolnir" (Flaws: Easily Removable) (Feats: Indestructible, Restricted 2- Those Worthy) [53]
"Weather Control" Environment 6 (1,000 feet) (Impede Movement, Visibility) (12)
Movement 1 (Space Travel) (2)
Flight 1 (4 mph) (2)
"Lightning Bolt/Hammer Line" Damage 14 (Extras: Area-Line 120ft. +3) (56) -- (66)
- AE: "Lightning" Blast 14 (Feats: Improved Critical 2, Indirect- From Above, Penetrating 6) (37)
- AE: "Hammer Smash" Strength-Damage +2 (Feats: Penetrating 6) (8)
- AE: "Hammer Throw" Strength-Damage +1 (Feats: Penetrating 6) (Extras: Ranged 17) (24)
- AE: "Hammer Spin" Strength-Damage +2 (Extras: Area- 15ft. Burst +18/+1/2) (29)
- AE: "Obscure Visuals" Concealment 2 (Visuals) (Extars: Attack, Area- 30ft. Burst) (8)
- AE: "Air Control" Move Object 16 (Flaws: Concentration) (16)
- AE: "Groundstrike" Affliction 13 (Dodge; Hindered/Prone) (Extras: Area- 30ft. Burst) (Flaws: Limited Degree, Instant Recovery, Limited to Grounded Targets) Linked to Damage 13 (Extras: Area- 30ft. Burst) (Flaws: Limited to Objects) (17)
- AE: Movement 3 (Dimensional Movement 3) (Extras: Portal +2) (12)
- AE: Deflect 12 (12)
- AE: Flight 11 (8,000 mph) (24)
-- (82 points)
Offense:
Unarmed +11 (+16 Damage, DC 31)
Hammer Smash +10 (+18 Damage, DC 33)
Hammer Throw +12 (+17 Ranged Damage, DC 32)
Lightning Bolt +14 Area (+14 Damage, DC 29)
Lightning +12 (+14 Ranged Damage, DC 29)
Initiative +2
Defenses:
Dodge +10 (DC 20), Parry +11 (DC 21), Toughness +15 (+5 Impervious), Fortitude +15, Will +13
Complications:
Power Loss (All Powers)- If removed from Mjolnir for more than one minute, Thor will transform back into human form (if he has one). This sometimes vanishes as a limitation based on the era.
Responsibility (Honour)- Thor is not one to lie nor cheat.
Enemy (Loki, Ulik, Jormungandr, Hela)
Rivalry (The Incredible Hulk)- As two of the strongest beings alive, they naturally dislike each other and come to blows.
Rivalry (Hercules)- The Son of Zeus is Thor's greatest heroic rival, though they often see eye-to-eye as well. Hercules bristles against the greater fame of Herc.
Responsibility (Asgard, Odin)- Thor must do his father's bidding, or that of Odin's replacements. This can be bad, because Odin is a royal (literally) dick.
Total: Abilities: 100 / Skills: 48--24 / Advantages: 30 / Powers: 87 / Defenses: 21 (262)
Thor in Mythology: Thor in the myths is a simple-minded, red-haired buffoon- aggressive, stupid and easily-angered. That said, his might is legendary- his attempts to strike an illusory Jotun resulted in three massive valleys in Northern Europe, his strength was such that he could nearly lift the Midgard Serpent (disguised as a cat), and he was temporarily able to grapple with Old Age itself. Thor was often paired up with Loki in "travelling tales" that explained certain aspects of the world, but while Loki was clever, Thor was simplistic. Marvel's version adds Flight, intelligence, blonde hair, nobility, thoughtfulness and more- it's essentially an entirely different character.
-I thought long and hard (huh-huh, I said...) about where to place Thor on the PL scale- he's EXTREMELY strong and tough compared to most Marvel heroes, and he's not a bad fighter either. I like lower PLs in general, but THIS guy? Thor is a PL 14 in my book, and that's a pretty big shift- I used to put EVERYONE within a PL 12 boundary if I could help it. But even then I admitted that Thor was actually higher-level- I just wanted him to fit more playability-wise with his team. Now? It's 3rd edition so I don't have to care so much. And since Thing & She-Hulk types are +13 damage unarmed, it only makes sense that Thor is a few notches higher (+16 normally, and Mjolnir knocks him up even higher- there's no easy way to fit that into PL 12 without making him very, very inaccurate. Thor is quite a good fighter as well, but uses Accurate Attack to improve his attack bonus rather than have a big number, as +11 seems more than good enough. He's SUPPOSED to be a godlike, super-experienced fighter, but I have never IN MY ENTIRE LIFE seen him use elite fighting tactics beyond "hit and then hit harder". He probably COULD dodge and weave, but usually is just a straight-on fighter, and I'd put him at a level with good fighters, but not elites (guys like Spidey, Kingpin & Black Knight are more accurate in general).
-At PL 14, Thor is a ways above even Iron Man (2 PLs basically make it REALLY unlikely Iron Man would ever win in a fair fight, which is as it should be), and well above most Marvel villains. His Silver Age self was more PL 11-12, and so guys like Mister Hyde (PL 10) and The Wrecker (PL 11) were more dangerous enemies. Nowadays, Thor makes mincemeat out of most guys on that level. Mjolnir costs a pretty penny, for good reason. It's a powerful Strike, has Area Effects (a Burst for his "whirl it around me" trick, with a half-price +0.5 Extra, a Line, and, a ranged Blast (Lightning), a weather controller (outside the Blast Array, so he can do them simultaneously), AND it can throw him across dimensions. The Belt of Strength is an occasional Boost to Strength that renders him supremely tired once he takes it off, and goes unstatted since it's a rare deal (probably boosts him by 2-4 ranks in Strength & Toughness). Thor's Hammer is basically a Dr. Strange-level plot device, and he can spend a Hero Point to travel through time (an ability he later "gave up"), use the God Force, etc., to beat the new Big Bad.
-Note Thor's defenses, which place him as a "mere" PL 12/12.5. That's deliberate, as most Super-Heavyweights lack defensive capability, usually just eating whatever attacks come their way. I can't possibly justify a Thor with more than +11 to Parry, and certainly +10 to Dodge is enough- he's never struck me as particularly light on his feet, and he's never seemed as durable as he is strong or damage-heavy. After all, it's virtually his stock in trade to pull out the Last Stand Advantage (ignore all accumulated damage for a turn) or eat something with Withstand Damage. Getting out of the way is for sissies, and Thor is a MAN'S MAN, dammit!
THOR, GOD OF THUNDER (Thor Odinson, Dr. Donald Blake)- Bronze Age
Created By: Stan Lee, Larry Lieber & Jack Kirby
First Appearance: Journey Into Mystery #83 (Aug. 1962)
Role: God, Epic Hero, Supermanalogue (kinda), Power-Cap Definer, Flying Brick
Group Affiliations: The Avengers, The Asgardian Pantheon, The Thor Corps., The God Squad
Avengers Grade: A-Level
PL 13 (244)
STRENGTH 15
STAMINA 14
AGILITY 2
FIGHTING 9
DEXTERITY 0
INTELLIGENCE 2
AWARENESS 3
PRESENCE 4
Skills:
Close Combat (Unarmed) 2 (+11)
Expertise (Aesir) 8 (+10)
Expertise (History) 2 (+4)
Insight 6 (+9)
Intimidation 10 (+14)
Perception 3 (+6)
Ranged Combat (Hammer) 4 (+10)
Ranged Combat (Lightning) 4 (+10)
Treatment 7 (+9)
Advantages:
Accurate Attack, All-Out Attack, Attractive, Benefit (Status- God), Diehard, Extraordinary Effort, Fearless, Great Endurance, Improved Critical (Hammer) 2, Interpose, Last Stand, Power Attack, Ranged Attack 6, Startle, Takedown 2, Ultimate Effort (Strength), Withstand Damage
Powers:
"Immortal Aesir"
Power Lifting 5 (50,000 tons) [5]
Impervious Toughness 11 [11]
Regeneration 2 (Feats: Regrowth) [3]
Immunity 10 (Aging, Starvation & Thirst, Heat, Cold, Disease, Fatigue Effects) [10]
Immunity 4 (Drowning & Suffocation, Poison, Pressure) (Flaws: Limited to Half-Effect) [2]
"Mjolnir" (Flaws: Easily Removable) (Feats: Indestructible, Restricted 2- Those Worthy) [49]
"Weather Control" Environment 6 (1,000 feet) (Impede Movement, Visibility) (12)
Movement 1 (Space Travel) (2)
Flight 1 (4 mph) (2)
"Lightning Bolt/Hammer Line" Damage 13 (Extras: Area-Line 120ft. +3) (51) -- (60)
- AE: "Lightning" Blast 14 (Feats: Improved Critical 2, Indirect- From Above, Penetrating 6) (37)
- AE: "Hammer Smash" Strength-Damage +2 (Feats: Penetrating 6) (8)
- AE: "Hammer Throw" Strength-Damage +1 (Feats: Penetrating 6) Extras: Ranged 16) (23)
- AE: "Hammer Spin" Strength-Damage +2 (Extras: Area- 15ft. Burst +16/+1/2) (29)
- AE: "Air Control" Move Object 16 (Flaws: Concentration) (16)
- AE: "Groundstrike" Affliction 13 (Dodge; Hindered/Prone) (Extras: Area- 30ft. Burst) (Flaws: Limited Degree, Instant Recovery, Limited to Grounded Targets) Linked to Damage 13 (Extras: Area- 30ft. Burst) (Flaws: Limited to Objects) (17)
- AE: Movement 3 (Dimensional Movement 3) (Extras: Portal +2) (12)
- AE: Deflect 12 (12)
- AE: Flight 11 (8,000 mph) (22)
-- (76 points)
Offense:
Unarmed +11 (+15 Damage, DC 30)
Hammer Smash +9 (+17 Damage, DC 32)
Hammer Throw +10 (+16 Ranged Damage, DC 31)
Lightning Bolt +13 Area (+13 Damage, DC 28)
Lightning +10 (+14 Ranged Damage, DC 29)
Initiative +2
Defenses:
Dodge +10 (DC 20), Parry +11 (DC 21), Toughness +13 (+14 Belt, +6 Impervious), Fortitude +14, Will +12
Complications:
Power Loss (All Powers)- If removed from Mjolnir for more than one minute, Thor will transform back into human form (if he has one).
Responsibility (Honour)- Thor is not one to lie nor cheat.
Enemy (Loki, Ulik)
Rivalry (The Incredible Hulk)- As two of the strongest beings alive, they naturally dislike each other and come to blows.
Responsibility (Asgard, Odin)- Thor must do his father's bidding, or that of Odin's replacements. This can be bad, because Odin is a royal (literally) dick.
Total: Abilities: 98 / Skills: 46--23 / Advantages: 24 / Powers: 76 / Defenses: 19 (244)
-Here's a weaker, PL 13 Thor, that fits a lot of '80s & '90s adventures before Thor got REALLY elite. It can also fit if you want him closer to the rest of the team. Y'know, I actually think I like this version more, as he's not quite as excessively powerful, but he doesn't really match modern Thor as much. Even in this "lesser" form, Thor is a bit beyond Iron Man, and a league ahead of Spider-Man, Ms. Marvel, The Thing or other PL 11 superstars. I think this kinda fits the Walt Simonson classic Thor run of the '80s quite well, since Thor was elite, but was still regularly challenged by people.