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Re: Jab's Builds! (Zeus! Ares! Lady Hellbender! Pantheons!)

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Jabroniville wrote: Thu Nov 02, 2017 6:29 am Marvel is a bit weird on the existence of God and stuff, as there are sometimes Angels seen, and holy powers are DEFINITELY seen working against Vampires and such. Ghost Rider's pal in the '70s was supposed to be Jesus Christ, but was turned into a demon by Jim Shooter's interference as editor. Plus... Thor's half-sister Angela is from "Heven", which also has angels. As Christianity became more and more "cool" or fun to bash, it showed up a lot more, and writers felt much safer to do so outside of the 1970s & '80s.
The funniest thing to me, when people start to toss in "Judeo-Christian" concepts is it's obvious they've only got a passing familiarity with the details even though it's the dominant religious structure in the US. The biggest giveaway is when people start dealing with Angels and the angelic host. Angels are all masculine (though many religious scholars posit them to be genderless). According to Jewish writings the only divine feminine spirit is Helen, who is not an angel, but resides with the Hebrew god in the Hebrew heaven. "She" is the personification of wisdom.

Anyway, comics are big on female angels...of whom according to religious texts there are exactly zero.

I honestly think most comic writers are less familiar with the Abrahamic faiths than they are with Greek mythology, so they can barely manage any references without screwing it up.
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Aztec Gods

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THE TETEOH (Aztecs):
Skyfather:
Quetzalcoatl (Sky)
Others: Chalchiuhtlique (Water), Huitzilopochtli (Sun), Mictlantecuhtli (The Dead), Ozomatli (Dance & Music), Tezcatlipoca (War), Tlaloc (Storms), Xipe Totec (Agriculture & Sacrifice), Xochiquetzal (Fertility & Flowers), Xolotl (Fire)
-I might be mis-spelling some of those names- I am NOT re-checking them. These guys were at the forefront of one of the craziest cultures the world has ever known- the sacrifice-obsessed Aztecs (there's a reason few consider the wiping out of these guys anywhere near as bad as what happened to the Native Americans up north). Quetzalcoatl helped Thor lead a group of Sun & Storm Gods to fight the Demogorge, but Thor had to rescue him- some Skyfather, huh?

AZTEC GOD TEMPLATE
PL 10 (133)
STRENGTH
10 STAMINA 10 AGILITY 3
FIGHTING 8 DEXTERITY 2
INTELLIGENCE 3 AWARENESS 3 PRESENCE 4

Skills:
Close Combat (Unarmed) 2 (+10)
Expertise (God) 7 (+10)
Expertise (History) 2 (+5)
Insight 4 (+7)
Intimidation 4 (+8)
Perception 3 (+6)

Advantages:
Benefit (Status- God), Diehard, Great Endurance, Ranged Attack 6

Powers:
"Immortal God"
Regeneration 2 (Feats: Regrowth) [3]
Immunity 9 (Aging, Drowning, Suffocation, Starvation & Thirst, Heat, Cold, Pressure, Poison, Disease) [9]
Speed 2 (8 mph) [2]
Leaping 1 (15 feet) [1]

Offense:
Unarmed +10 (+10 Damage, DC 25)
Initiative +3

Defenses:
Dodge +9 (DC 19), Parry +10 (DC 20), Toughness +10, Fortitude +10, Will +7

Complications:
Responsibility (Respective Pantheons)

Total: Abilities: 86 / Skills: 22--11 / Advantages: 9 / Powers: 15 / Defenses: 12 (133)

Notable Members:
QUETZALCOATL: The famous winged Serpent God of wind and learning.
MICTLANTECUHTLI: A God of the Dead whose worship actually involved ritual cannibalism. Because yeah, that part of the world was MESSED UP. There's a reason these cultures aren't quite as "mourned" as those of the Native Americans, who suffered a similar fate under European invasion.
TEZCATLIPOCA: A jaguar-like shapeshifting God. Helped create the world with Quetzalcoatl, but the two warred with each other. In the comics, out of revenge, Tezcatlipoca convinced the Aztecs that the Spanish Conquistador Hernando Cortez was actually Quetzalcoatl reborn, and thus to allow the Spanish to enter the country. At other points, however, Tezcatlipoca appears as the Aztec representative of the "Council of Godheads", acting as a benevolent Skyfather.
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Mayan Gods

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THE AHAU/MAYANA (Mayans):
Skyfather:
Hunab Ku (Sky)
Others: Ahpuch (The Dead), Buluc Chabtan (War), Camazotz (Darkness), Chaac (Rain & Lightning), Gucumatz/Kukulkan (Wind), Itzamna (Sun), Ixchel (Moon)
-These guys used to fight the Aztec Gods, but are minor players on the God scene, generally only showing up when MANY other Pantheons were involved (like when Thor asked various Skyfathers to give up some energy to resurrect the Asgardian people after the Celestials killed them, or when all the Death Gods teamed up to steal some lives and got killed by Demogorge the God-Eater), though some stuff is mentioned that the Ahau warred with the Teteoh after the Teteoh-worshipping Aztecs gobbled up the Mayan Empire and its descendants.

-But all of a sudden some guys claiming to be the Mayan Gods showed up in a Red Hulk-themed Hulk story arc written by Jeff Parker and drawn by the great Dale Eaglesham- I only collected it because of the latter (the man is simply a GOD among artists).

Being Mayan Gods, they were obsessed with blood sacrifice and power, and threatened all of Central & South America (their old stomping grounds- The Mayan civilization was slowing down by the time the Spaniards arrived, but held out longer than the Aztecs & Incas did because it was a collection of city-states and not one big empire with a central seat of power) when they were awakened by Hulk ally A-Bomb (Rick Jones). Alpha Flight appeared to help out (since Eaglesham had just barely finished an arc on that book), but was largely ineffective compared to Red Hulk, A-Bomb & Machine-Man (ugh), along with the lady android partner/pilot of Thunderbolt Ross's. HOWEVER, while this would seemingly come into conflict with Marvel Continuity regarding the Mayan Pantheon (here called the "Mayana"), it's actually revealed that these are NOT really Gods, just very powerful human descendents. See, they're descended from a group of exiled humans who drank from a stream that contained Terrigen Crystals (the stuff that gives Inhumans their powers, and was later seen floating around Marvel Earth doing weird stuff to Inhuman-related people), and concentrated that through five generations until they basically became Immortal Super-Powerful Beings who used life energy to maintain their lives and powers.

Nowhere is it stated that their ARE real Mayan Gods, who HAVE met a few mainstream super-heroes over time (Thor, Spider-Man and a few others would have met some), but hey- we're lucky they didn't just forget all that in the first place and make these guys the "real deal", thus going against what came before. Though to be honest, as I get older, I care a lot less about whether or not each story fits EXACTLY into continuity- "Continuity" should be a help, not a hindrance that handcuffs modern writers against telling stories. Just... don't go all "I'm gonna change every character and thing ever to be what I want it to be!" with it. And lay off the "Secret History Of--" crap- it was cool once or twice, but now it's tired.

These "Mayan Gods" need life and worship to gain full power, and are thus absorbing the new "Gods"- what we'd call super-heroes. She-Hulk, Llyra (the other She-Hulk), Sasquatch, Snowbird, A-Bomb & Aurora are drained to bring forth most of them, and they try to absorb Red Hulk's life, too. The rest of Alpha Flight are KO'd when Sasquatch is turned on them by Mayan control. The Gods use their Pyramids to drain life, and can't seem to do it themselves- the effect is so strong that it leaves one half of Rulk's body dessicated just from TOUCHING the energy field, and he doesn't grow it back until a Plot Device comes into play!

The story is pretty decent, but the main draw is really the art. Alpha Flight and the She-Hulks are basically just window-dressing to Rulk doing stuff, and nothing's really that funny (I've never found Machine-Man's attempts at joking to be particularly hilarious, especially once he started acting like an idiotic internet troll). There's a bunch of South Of The Border-drawn heroes that show up as well, but only Silverclaw, Living Lightning & Toro (a bull guy, not the Human Torch's sidekick) are named on-panel. The heroes are helped out by the only two GOOD members of the Mayan team- Hunahpu and Xbalanque, people from actual Mayan mythology that took on the general "clever mortal" concept that the Greeks often used.

Note: Itzamna appears to be the God in charge of the Pantheon at Marvel (he appeared at the Council of Godheads during The Infinity Gauntlet, along with Odin, Zeus and others), being a Sun God and this being the Mayans, but the Pantheon was founded by Izamna's father Hunab Ku (the Sky God), who deferred to his son. No character named after those two appeared in the story.

The Roster (Evil Version):
IXCHEL: A Moon Goddess who in this story is a jaguar-bikini wearing weather-controller.
CAMAZOTZ: A giant bat-dude (God of Darkness).
YUM KAAX: A plant guy.
TOHIL: God of Flames.
JACAWITZ: Volcano God with an oddly Jewish-sounding name.
AH PUCH: Death God.
KUKULKAN: Serpent God- treated as the overall leader.
AH-MUZENCAB: God of Bees. He dies as soon as he crosses the boundary to life, because the Red Hulk's life energy is tainted with bad stuff.
-There's also some Water Guy who shows up, but nobody explains what his name is, and he doesn't do much.

MAYAN GOD TEMPLATE
PL 10 (133)
STRENGTH
10 STAMINA 10 AGILITY 3
FIGHTING 8 DEXTERITY 2
INTELLIGENCE 3 AWARENESS 3 PRESENCE 4

Skills:
Close Combat (Unarmed) 2 (+10)
Expertise (God) 7 (+10)
Expertise (History) 2 (+5)
Insight 4 (+7)
Intimidation 4 (+8)
Perception 3 (+6)

Advantages: 
Benefit (Status- God), Diehard, Great Endurance, Ranged Attack 6

Powers:
"Immortal God"
Regeneration 2 (Feats: Regrowth) [3]
Immunity 9 (Aging, Drowning, Suffocation, Starvation & Thirst, Heat, Cold, Pressure, Poison, Disease) [9]
Speed 2 (8 mph) [2]
Leaping 1 (15 feet) [1]

Offense:
Unarmed +10 (+10 Damage, DC 25)
Initiative +3

Defenses:
Dodge +9 (DC 19), Parry +10 (DC 20), Toughness +10, Fortitude +10, Will +7

Complications:
Responsibility (Respective Pantheons)

Total: Abilities: 86 / Skills: 22--11 / Advantages: 9 / Powers: 15 / Defenses: 12 (133)

Notable Members (Godly Version):
ITZAMNA: The Creator God in myth, though he was the son of Hunab Ku. Appears as the Godhead in Marvel's books.
AHPUCH: The Skull-faced God of the Dead was one of many Death Gods who allied for greater power, but were temporarily eaten by Demogorge, The God-Eater.
WAYEB: An evil Death/Mischief God, Wayeb attempted to intrude upon Earth, and froze Manhattan in a blizzard, but was prevented from getting a sacrifice by Spider-Man, and was thus banished back before the Mayan Holiday was over.
KUKULKAN: This God goes way, WAY back to X-Men #25 in 1966, where he attempted to take over a town and renew the Mayan Empire there. The mythological version is a Feathered Serpent, highly-similar to Quetzalcoatl.
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Ixchel

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IXCHEL, JAGUAR-GODDESS OF THE MOON
Created By:
Jeff Parker & Dale Eaglesham
First Appearance: Hulk #53 (July 2012)
PL 10 (238)
STRENGTH
6 STAMINA 8 AGILITY 4
FIGHTING 10 DEXTERITY 3
INTELLIGENCE 3 AWARENESS 3 PRESENCE 4

Skills:
Expertise (Mayan "God") 7 (+10)
Expertise (History) 2 (+5)
Insight 3 (+6)
Intimidation 4 (+8)
Perception 3 (+6)
Persuasion 3 (+7)

Advantages: 
Benefit (Status- God), Diehard, Great Endurance, Ranged Attack 5

Powers:
"Immortal God"
Regeneration 2 (Feats: Regrowth) [3]
Immunity 9 (Aging, Drowning, Suffocation, Starvation & Thirst, Heat, Cold, Pressure, Poison, Disease) [9]
Speed 2 (8 mph) [2]
Leaping 1 (15 feet) [1]

"Water Goddess" Swimming 8 (120 mph) [8]

"Weather Control"
Environment 6 (900 feet) (Impede Movement & Visibility) [12]
Immunity 1 (Weather Effects) [1]

"Water Powers"
"Mass Drowning" Affliction 10 (Fort; Dazed/Stunned/Incapacitated) (Extras: Area- 900ft. Burst +6, Sustained +2) (90) -- [94]
  • AE: "Water Cannon" Blast 10 (20)
  • AE: "Water Torrents" Move Object 5 (10)
  • AE: "Forced Drowning" Affliction 10 (Fort; Dazed/Stunned/Incapacitated) (Extras: Ranged) (20)
  • AE: "Water Control" Move Object 10 (Extras: Perception Range) (Flaws: Limited to Water) (20)
Offense:
Unarmed +10 (+6 Damage, DC 21)
Water Cannon +8 (+10 Ranged Damage, DC 25)
Mass Drowning +10 Area (+10 Affliction, DC 20)
Initiative +4

Defenses:
Dodge +9 (DC 19), Parry +10 (DC 20), Toughness +8, Fortitude +8, Will +6

Complications:
Motivation (Power)- The Mayan "Gods" desire greater power, and will do this by sacrificing lives and gaining worshippers from the mortals.
Weakness (Life Energy)- These beings require energy to renew themselves in the mortal world.
Disabled (Blind to Technology)- Their age and magical nature makes them unable to see much of technology- both Machine-Man and Annie are largely-invisible to them, being technological beings.
Involuntary Transformation (Human Form, Inside the Temples)- Inside their Pyramid Temple things, the "Mayan Gods" lose a semblance of power and take human form.

Total: Abilities: 82 / Skills: 22--11 / Advantages: 8 / Powers: 130 / Defenses: 8 (239)

-Ixchel is the first of the Gods seen, and is the most human-like. Basically, she looks like a super-hot brown lady in a jaguar-print bikini and giant Mayan Headdress, and being a Moon Goddess in the myths, is a Water-Controlling character. I guess since the Moon controls the tides, it fits (though Chaac is the actual Rain God of the Mayans, and Ixchel is a Goddess of Midwifery and Medicine primarily- Mayan writings are often misunderstood and hard to figure out, meaning there's a lot of possibilities and half-written things we're misinterpreting). She has a tendency to be the mouthpiece of the team, broadcasting their plans to everyone around and demanding worshippers. She's probably quite strong, but gets KO'd by a single punch from She-Hulk anyways, so she's not THAT tough.
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Yum Kaax

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YUM KAAX, GOD OF FORESTS
Created By:
Jeff Parker & Dale Eaglesham
First Appearance: Hulk #54 (Aug. 2012)
PL 10 (151)
STRENGTH
8 STAMINA 9 AGILITY 2
FIGHTING 8 DEXTERITY 0
INTELLIGENCE 1 AWARENESS 3 PRESENCE 2

Skills:
Expertise (Mayan "God") 7 (+8)
Expertise (History) 3 (+4)
Insight 3 (+6)
Intimidation 4 (+6, +8 Size)
Perception 2 (+5)
Stealth 2 (+6, +2 Size)

Advantages: 
Benefit (Status- God), Daze (Intimidation), Diehard, Fast Grab, Great Endurance, Improved Grab, Improved Hold, Startle

Powers:
"Immortal God"
Regeneration 2 (Feats: Regrowth) [3]
Immunity 9 (Aging, Drowning, Suffocation, Starvation & Thirst, Heat, Cold, Pressure, Poison, Disease) [9]
Speed 2 (8 mph) [2]
Leaping 1 (15 feet) [1]

"Big Plant Dude"
Growth 4 (Str & Sta +4, +4 Mass, +2 Intimidation, -2 Dodge/Parry, -4 Stealth) -- (12 feet) (Feats: Innate) (Extras: Permanent +0) [9]
Snare 10 (Extras: Area- 30ft. Burst, Selective) (Flaws: Touch Range) (40) -- [41]
  • AE: "Plant Growth" Growth 10 (Flaws: Affects Others +0, Limited to Plants) (20)
Movement 1 (Slithering) [2]

Offense:
Unarmed +12 (+8 Damage, DC 23)
Snare +10 Area (+10 Affliction, DC 20)
Initiative +4

Defenses:
Dodge +10 (DC 20), Parry +11 (DC 21), Toughness +9, Fortitude +9, Will +6

Complications:
Motivation (Power)- The Mayan "Gods" desire greater power, and will do this by sacrificing lives and gaining worshippers from the mortals.
Weakness (Life Energy)- These beings require energy to renew themselves in the mortal world.
Disabled (Blind to Technology)- Their age and magical nature makes them unable to see much of technology- both Machine-Man and Annie are largely-invisible to them, being technological beings.
Involuntary Transformation (Human Form, Inside the Temples)- Inside their Pyramid Temple things, the "Mayan Gods" lose a semblance of power and take human form.

Total: Abilities: 50 / Skills: 20--10 / Advantages: 8 / Powers: 67 / Defenses: 16 (151)

-Yum Kaax shows up to ensare guys and generally take up some background scenes as an excuse for Eaglesham to draw tons of detail with all these vines and stuff flying around.
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Camazotz

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CAMOZOTZ, THE DEATH-BAT
Created By:
Jeff Parker & Dale Eaglesham
First Appearance: Hulk #54 (Aug. 2012)
PL 10 (132)
STRENGTH
8 STAMINA 9 AGILITY 4
FIGHTING 8 DEXTERITY 0
INTELLIGENCE 1 AWARENESS 3 PRESENCE 2

Skills:
Close Combat (Unarmed) 4 (+12)
Expertise (Mayan "God") 7 (+8)
Expertise (History) 3 (+4)
Insight 3 (+6)
Intimidation 8 (+10, +12 Size)
Perception 5 (+8)
Stealth 2 (+6, +2 Size)

Advantages: 
Benefit (Status- God), Daze (Intimidation), Diehard, Fast Grab, Great Endurance, Improved Grab, Improved Hold, Startle

Powers:
"Immortal God"
Regeneration 2 (Feats: Regrowth) [3]
Immunity 9 (Aging, Drowning, Suffocation, Starvation & Thirst, Heat, Cold, Pressure, Poison, Disease) [9]
Speed 2 (8 mph) [2]
Leaping 1 (15 feet) [1]

"Giant Bat" Growth 4 (Str & Sta +4, +4 Mass, +2 Intimidation, -2 Dodge/Parry, -4 Stealth) -- (12 feet) (Feats: Innate) (Extras: Permanent +0) [9]
"Blood Drinker" Weaken Stamina 8 (Flaws: Grab-Based, Limited to 2 Ranks Per Round) [2]
"Animal Senses" Senses 1 (Low-Light Vision) [1]
"Echolocation" Senses 4 (Extended, Ultra & Accurate Hearing) [4]

Flight 5 (60 mph) (Feats: Subtle 2) (Flaws: Winged) [7]

Offense:
Unarmed +12 (+8 Damage, DC 23)
Blood Drinking +12 (+8 Weaken, DC 18)
Initiative +4

Defenses:
Dodge +10 (DC 20), Parry +11 (DC 21), Toughness +9, Fortitude +9, Will +6

Complications:
Motivation (Power)- The Mayan "Gods" desire greater power, and will do this by sacrificing lives and gaining worshippers from the mortals.
Weakness (Life Energy)- These beings require energy to renew themselves in the mortal world.
Disabled (Blind to Technology)- Their age and magical nature makes them unable to see much of technology- both Machine-Man and Annie are largely-invisible to them, being technological beings.
Involuntary Transformation (Human Form, Inside the Temples)- Inside their Pyramid Temple things, the "Mayan Gods" lose a semblance of power and take human form.

Total: Abilities: 54 / Skills: 32--16 / Advantages: 8 / Powers: 38 / Defenses: 16 (132)

-Camozotz is a Death God of sorts, but appeared as a race of Death-Bats (OH MY GOD SO COOL) in one mythological story. His role in the story is to kill some local politicians as part of the group's "Shock and Awe" campaign to terrify and control the populace of El Salvador, and to look cool when draw by Dale Eaglesham. He's a PL 10 super-giant Bat-Man who drinks blood and looks rad.
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Ah Puch

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AH PUCH, GOD OF DEATH
Created By:
Jeff Parker & Dale Eaglesham
First Appearance: Hulk #54 (Aug. 2012)
PL 10 (121)
STRENGTH
8 STAMINA 9 AGILITY 2
FIGHTING 10 DEXTERITY 0
INTELLIGENCE 1 AWARENESS 3 PRESENCE 2

Skills:
Expertise (Mayan "God") 7 (+8)
Expertise (History) 4 (+5)
Insight 3 (+6)
Intimidation 8 (+10)
Perception 2 (+5)
Stealth 2 (+6, +2 Size)

Advantages: 
Benefit (Status- God), Daze (Intimidation), Diehard, Fast Grab, Great Endurance, Improved Grab, Improved Hold, Startle

Powers:
"Immortal God"
Regeneration 2 (Feats: Regrowth) [3]
Immunity 9 (Aging, Drowning, Suffocation, Starvation & Thirst, Heat, Cold, Pressure, Poison, Disease) [9]
Speed 2 (8 mph) [2]
Leaping 1 (15 feet) [1]

"Touch of Death" Weaken Stamina 10 [10]
Growth 4 (Str & Sta +4, +4 Mass, +2 Intimidation, -2 Dodge/Parry, -4 Stealth) -- (12 feet) (Feats: Innate) (Extras: Permanent +0) [9]

Offense:
Unarmed +10 (+8 Damage, DC 23)
Weaken +10 (+10 Weaken, DC 20)
Initiative +2

Defenses:
Dodge +10 (DC 20), Parry +11 (DC 21), Toughness +9, Fortitude +9, Will +6

Complications:
Motivation (Power)- The Mayan "Gods" desire greater power, and will do this by sacrificing lives and gaining worshippers from the mortals.
Weakness (Life Energy)- These beings require energy to renew themselves in the mortal world.
Disabled (Blind to Technology)- Their age and magical nature makes them unable to see much of technology- both Machine-Man and Annie are largely-invisible to them, being technological beings.
Involuntary Transformation (Human Form, Inside the Temples)- Inside their Pyramid Temple things, the "Mayan Gods" lose a semblance of power and take human form.

Total: Abilities: 54 / Skills: 26--13 / Advantages: 8 / Powers: 34 / Defenses: 12 (121)

-Ah Puch looks pretty cool and has a Touch of Death, but doesn't get up to much more than that.
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Tohil

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TOHIL, GOD OF FLAME
Created By:
Jeff Parker & Dale Eaglesham
First Appearance: Hulk #54 (Aug. 2012)
PL 11 (160)
STRENGTH
12 STAMINA -- AGILITY -1
FIGHTING 10 DEXTERITY 0
INTELLIGENCE 0 AWARENESS 1 PRESENCE 0

Skills:
Expertise (Mayan "God") 7 (+7)
Expertise (History) 4 (+4)
Intimidation 7 (+7, +14 Size)
Perception 2 (+3)

Advantages: 
Benefit (Status- God), Daze (Intimidation), Diehard, Fast Grab, Great Endurance, Improved Grab, Improved Hold, Startle

Powers:
"Immortal God"
Regeneration 2 (Feats: Regrowth) [3]
Immunity 30 (Fortitude Effects) [30]
Speed 2 (8 mph) [2]

Growth 14 (Str & Toughness +14, +14 Mass, +7 Intimidation, -7 Dodge/Parry, +1 Speed, -14 Stealth) -- (72 feet) (Feats: Innate) (Extras: Permanent +0) (Flaws: Ablative- Shrinks With Each Failed Toughness Test) [15]
"Being of Fire" Flame Aura 10 [40]
Flame Blast 12 (Feats: Accurate 5) (29) -- [30]
  • AE: "Cone of Fire" Damage 10 (Extras: Area- 60ft. Cone) (20)
Offense:
Unarmed +10 (+12 Damage, DC 27)
Flame Aura +10 (+10 Damage, DC 25)
Flame Blast +10 (+12 Ranged Damage, DC 27)
Fire Cone +10 Area (+10 Damage, DC 25)
Initiative -1

Defenses:
Dodge +2 (DC 12), Parry +4 (DC 14), Toughness +14, Fortitude --, Will +6

Complications:
Motivation (Power)- The Mayan "Gods" desire greater power, and will do this by sacrificing lives and gaining worshippers from the mortals.
Weakness (Life Energy)- These beings require energy to renew themselves in the mortal world.
Disabled (Blind to Technology)- Their age and magical nature makes them unable to see much of technology- both Machine-Man and Annie are largely-invisible to them, being technological beings.
Involuntary Transformation (Human Form, Inside the Temples)- Inside their Pyramid Temple things, the "Mayan Gods" lose a semblance of power and take human form.
Weakness (Water)- A being of Fire, Tohil will likely take extra damage from water-based attacks.

Total: Abilities: 6 / Skills: 20--10 / Advantages: 8 / Powers: 120 / Defenses: 16 (160)

-Tohil is kind of the "heavy" of the team at first, soon joined by his brother Jacawitz. Enormous and basically made of molten-y fire, he loses size with each shot from The Red Hulk (who has little problem hitting such a gigantic target, especially with his Leaping).
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Re: Jab's Builds! (Lady Hellbender! American Gods!)

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Interesting - Invincible is in a tiny lead, but a single vote for anything changes the dynamics completely. Of course, I feel bad because I won't do Invincible until the comic actually ends, meaning it's not getting done till February regardless of how well it does here :).

Wolverine has no votes, and the Dinosaurs have a little bit of interest. It's mostly tied, though, with Gargoyles right behind Invincible, and 2-3 things a half a vote behind it.
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Jacawitz

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JACAWITZ, THE VOLCANO GOD
Created By:
Jeff Parker & Dale Eaglesham
First Appearance: Hulk #55 (Sept. 2012)
PL 12 (176)
STRENGTH
13 STAMINA -- AGILITY -1
FIGHTING 10 DEXTERITY 0
INTELLIGENCE 0 AWARENESS 1 PRESENCE 0

Skills:
Expertise (Mayan "God") 7 (+7)
Expertise (History) 4 (+4)
Intimidation 7 (+7, +14 Size)
Perception 2 (+3)

Advantages: 
Benefit (Status- God), Daze (Intimidation), Diehard, Fast Grab, Great Endurance, Improved Grab, Improved Hold, Startle

Powers:
"Immortal God"
Regeneration 2 (Feats: Regrowth) [3]
Immunity 30 (Fortitude Effects) [30]
Speed 2 (16 mph) [2]

Growth 14 (Str & Toughness +14, +14 Mass, +7 Intimidation, -7 Dodge/Parry, +1 Speed, -14 Stealth) -- (72 feet) (Feats: Innate) (Extras: Permanent +0) (Flaws: Ablative- Shrinks With Each Failed Toughness Test) [15]
"Being of Lava" Heat Aura 12 [48]
Insubstantial 1 [5]
Lava Blast 13 (Feats: Accurate 5) [31]

Offense:
Unarmed +10 (+13 Damage, DC 28)
Flame Aura +10 (+12 Damage, DC 27)
Lava Blast +10 (+13 Ranged Damage, DC 28)
Initiative -1

Defenses:
Dodge +2 (DC 12), Parry +4 (DC 14), Toughness +14, Fortitude --, Will +8

Complications:
Motivation (Power)- The Mayan "Gods" desire greater power, and will do this by sacrificing lives and gaining worshippers from the mortals.
Weakness (Life Energy)- These beings require energy to renew themselves in the mortal world.
Disabled (Blind to Technology)- Their age and magical nature makes them unable to see much of technology- both Machine-Man and Annie are largely-invisible to them, being technological beings.
Involuntary Transformation (Human Form, Inside the Temples)- Inside their Pyramid Temple things, the "Mayan Gods" lose a semblance of power and take human form.
Weakness (Water)- A being of molten-hot lava, Jacawitz will likely take extra damage from water-based attacks.

Total: Abilities: 8 / Skills: 20--10 / Advantages: 8 / Powers: 132 / Defenses: 18 (176)

-Jacawitz is introduced with much fanfare, as they called him "The Volcano God of the Maya" and all that, but he just ends up being background scenery alongside Tohil, and Kukulkan is actually in charge. He gains the abilities of a creature made entirely out of lava.
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Kukulkan

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KUKULKAN, THE WINGED SERPENT
Created By:
Jeff Parker & Dale Eaglesham
First Appearance: Hulk #55 (Sept. 2012)
PL 12 (158)
STRENGTH
13 STAMINA 13 AGILITY 3
FIGHTING 11 DEXTERITY 0
INTELLIGENCE 2 AWARENESS 3 PRESENCE 3

Skills:
Expertise (Mayan "God") 8 (+10)
Expertise (History) 4 (+6)
Insight 2 (+5)
Intimidation 6 (+9, +13 Size)
Perception 2 (+3)
Persuasion 2 (+5)

Advantages: 
Benefit (Status- God), Daze (Intimidation), Diehard, Fast Grab, Great Endurance, Improved Critical (Unarmed), Improved Grab, Improved Hold, Startle

Powers:
"Immortal God"
Regeneration 2 (Feats: Regrowth) [3]
Speed 2 (16 mph) [2]
Flight 6 (120 mph) (Flaws: Winged) [6]
Movement 1 (Slithering) [2]

Growth 8 (Str & Sta +8, +8 Mass, +4 Intimidation, -4 Dodge/Parry, +1 Speed, -8 Stealth) -- (24 feet) (Feats: Innate) (Extras: Permanent +0) [17]
"Fire Breath" Blast 12 (Feats: Accurate 6) [30]

Offense:
Unarmed +11 (+13 Damage, DC 28)
Fire Breath +12 (+12 Ranged Damage, DC 27)
Initiative +3

Defenses:
Dodge +11 (DC 21), Parry +11 (DC 21), Toughness +13, Fortitude +13, Will +8

Complications:
Motivation (Power)- The Mayan "Gods" desire greater power, and will do this by sacrificing lives and gaining worshippers from the mortals.
Weakness (Life Energy)- These beings require energy to renew themselves in the mortal world.
Disabled (Blind to Technology)- Their age and magical nature makes them unable to see much of technology- both Machine-Man and Annie are largely-invisible to them, being technological beings.
Involuntary Transformation (Human Form, Inside the Temples)- Inside their Pyramid Temple things, the "Mayan Gods" lose a semblance of power and take human form.
Weakness (Water)- A being of molten-hot lava, Tohil will likely take extra damage from water-based attacks.

Total: Abilities: 64 / Skills: 24--12 / Advantages: 9 / Powers: 60 / Defenses: 13 (158)

-Kukulkan is the master of the Maya, and is a giant bad-ass feathered serpent, like a lot of mythologies from that region feature (mostly the Aztecs, but most people mix them all together anyways). He's powerful enough to grapple and smack around The Red Hulk, but Rulk is probably still more powerful overall.
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Re: Jab's Builds! (Lady Hellbender! American Gods!)

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I confess I have no idea how fast I want to post up these "God Builds". The original group of them was posted in a single day in 2012, with only a few guys getting separate builds. But with these, I did a lot more research into the actual Pantheons, and include more solo builds, so I spread them out a bit more. The Mayans were a bit different, because the builds are literally unchanged from when I first posted them- I built them after I read their Red Hulk appearance, and were posted in early 2014- only fifty pages (and a couple months) before the Atomic Think Tank shut down for good. But there are EIGHT of them, so I didn't want to just spam them the hell out. So I figured spending most of the day just on them was fine- no sense moving TOO quickly on this thread. Hell, I might run out of comic book characters some day!
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Aboriginal Gods

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ABORIGINAL GODS (Australia):
Skyfather: Altjira (Dreamtime)
Others: Baiame (Creation), Daramulum (Sky & Weather), Julunggul (Fertility), Gnowee (Sun), Mamaragan (Lightning), Narahdarn (Death), Marmoo (Evil)
-Aboriginal Gods can traverse the Dreamtime, a mystical realm based off of the collective subconscious of the entire universe's people, where you can see everything, and all time appears simultaenously (it's effectively a land where time has no meaning). Most of these beings are rather mysterious, as the Aboriginal cultures of Australia suffered what generally happens to stone age cultures when Europeans show up and mess with their stuff, but on a more thorough scale, owing to the scattered tribes. Generations of knowledge was lost, the culture and religion was suppressed, and since they weren't big on writing things down, we might never know the truth about most of this stuff. Hell, every God in their mythology has a shorter Wikipedia page than any member of the Power Rangers.

-What we call "Gods" of the Aborigines may in fact be more like "Respected Elders" that could even have existed in the past- they were less "worshipped" and more "revered" and respected. The fact that there were about 900 Aboriginal cultural groups, and most of them lost much of their culture, makes the idea of creating a concrete pantheon out of their mythos rather conceptually difficult. For example, many share a mythical story about "Captain Cook", believed to have destroyed their culture via the onset of Europeans.

GENERIC ABORIGINAL GOD TEMPLATE
PL 10 (135)
STRENGTH
10 STAMINA 10 AGILITY 3
FIGHTING 8 DEXTERITY 2
INTELLIGENCE 3 AWARENESS 3 PRESENCE 4

Skills:
Close Combat (Unarmed) 2 (+10)
Expertise (God) 7 (+10)
Expertise (History) 2 (+5)
Insight 4 (+7)
Intimidation 4 (+8)
Perception 3 (+6)

Advantages:
Benefit (Status- God), Diehard, Great Endurance, Ranged Attack 6

Powers:
"Immortal God"
Regeneration 2 (Feats: Regrowth) [3]
Immunity 9 (Aging, Drowning, Suffocation, Starvation & Thirst, Heat, Cold, Pressure, Poison, Disease) [9]
Speed 2 (8 mph) [2]
Leaping 1 (15 feet) [1]

"Access the Dreamtime" Movement 1 (Dimensional Travel 1- The Dreamtime) [2]

Offense:
Unarmed +10 (+10 Damage, DC 25)
Initiative +3

Defenses:
Dodge +9 (DC 19), Parry +10 (DC 20), Toughness +10, Fortitude +10, Will +7

Complications:
Responsibility (Respective Pantheons)

Total: Abilities: 86 / Skills: 22--11 / Advantages: 9 / Powers: 15 / Defenses: 12 (135)

Notable Members:
ALTJIRA: Marvel's Skyfather of the pantheon is really just a name for "The Dreaming", and not really a guy. He only appears a handful of times, primarily to annoy Longshot inside the Dreaming in a Marvel Comics Presents short story (the identity is left vague, but a Marvel Encyclopedia finally confirms it).
BAIAME: Baiame is the ACTUAL Sky Father (like, that's his real title) and Creator, being said to have created the world. It was forbidden to mention his name publicly, and women were not even allowed to see DRAWINGS of him, nor approach sites devoted to him. All paintings of him are done in front profile. There is some thought that Baiame is literally the creation of Christian missionaries, who were trying to explain their God to the Aborigines.
DURAMULUM: The brother or son of Baiame, and a God of the Sky and Weather. His mother is an Emu Goddess, so he has an emu-like profile. It is his voice that is heard through the bullroarer of the Aborigines.
JULUNGGUL: A "Rainbow Snake" Fertility Goddess, who oversaw maturing boys. Rainbow Serpents are the most common myths spoken of in Australia, and are among the oldest cultural traditions on Earth.
GNOWEE: A Sun Goddess who is said to have lived when the world was eternally dark and everyone required torches to see- she lost her son while searching for food, and climbed the sky with a great torch to get a better view, and searches for him still, lighting up the world.
MAMARAGAN: A Lightning God who speaks with thunder, and lives in a puddle.
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The Hindu Gods

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THE DAEVAS (India):
Skyfather:
Brahma (Creation)
Others: Ganesha (Intellect & Wisdom), Kali (Destruction), Indra (War & Weather), Maya (Illusions), Ratri (Night), Shiva (Destruction & Transformation), Vishu (Heaven & Preservation), Yama (Death)
-Still worshipped by nearly a billion Indians, these guys raise some odd questions in the Marvel Universe as one of the few currently-worshipped Pantheons out there. Use of highly-respected Indian characters as pop-culture fodder is HIGHLY controversial, and the sheer size of the Indian diaspora means you'll definitely get some blowback if you try it. Monster In My Pocket was banned in England for a time after the very large English Hindu population freaked out when beings like Shiva & Ganesha appeared alongside Witch and The Mummy in the collectible plastic toyline. The TV series Clone High got such a berating over the Ghandi character (Ghandi is basically worshipped in a cult of personality) that it helped the show get cancelled, too. So Marvel typically only tries it rarely- their appearances are short. They appear in some background scenes, judging stuff and observing Thor or whatever. Kali is once seen empowering an assassin, and Yama joined other Death Gods in being attacked by The Demogorge after forging an alliance.

-I've tried to learn stuff about these guys, but the religion is really hard to get into, as each God seems to have Male & Female aspects (some of whom are married to them, I think), and there's lots of assorted weirdness here- it's like if someone let Grant Morrison design a pantheon. But they do have Garuda, a giant super-awesome Bird Mount. Kenmadragon explains it as the idea that Gods are the means by which we have to understand the Divine, which is beyond understanding- many Gods have multiple forms, aspects and Avatars, which can include changing appearance or even gender.

HINDU GOD TEMPLATE
PL 10 (135)
STRENGTH
11 STAMINA 11 AGILITY 3
FIGHTING 8 DEXTERITY 2
INTELLIGENCE 3 AWARENESS 3 PRESENCE 4

Skills:
Close Combat (Unarmed) 1 (+9)
Expertise (God) 6 (+9)
Expertise (History) 2 (+5)
Insight 4 (+7)
Intimidation 4 (+8)
Perception 3 (+6)

Advantages:
Benefit (Status- God), Diehard, Great Endurance, Ranged Attack 6

Powers:
"Immortal God"
Regeneration 2 (Feats: Regrowth) [3]
Immunity 9 (Aging, Drowning, Suffocation, Starvation & Thirst, Heat, Cold, Pressure, Poison, Disease) [9]
Speed 2 (8 mph) [2]
Leaping 1 (15 feet) [1]

Offense:
Unarmed +9 (+11 Damage, DC 26)
Initiative +3

Defenses:
Dodge +9 (DC 19), Parry +9 (DC 19), Toughness +11, Fortitude +10, Will +7

Complications:
Responsibility (Respective Pantheons)

Total: Abilities: 90 / Skills: 20--10 / Advantages: 9 / Powers: 15 / Defenses: 11 (135)

Notable Members:
* Note: Thanks to Kenmadragon for providing so much of this info. A lot of this is direct quotes, so credit him instead of me.

BRAHMA, VISHNU & SHIVA: Three brothers who formed the world. Vishnu is a God of Mercy & Light, Shiva is the Destroyer (which often gets him equated with evil in Western stuff) and Brahma is the Creator (with four faces), though Shiva is the mightiest. Shiva was beaten by Thor in an old issue of his comic, but was retconned into being Indra after some Hindus got annoyed at Marvel for having Thor beat one of their major Godly figures. Brahma is often treated as the "Skyfather" equivalent, though the others are as likely to appear- he himself isn't overly worshipped these days, and has fallen out of favor a bit.

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* Brahma is the Creator God. And unlike many other mythologies, Brahma has experience as a Creator God, on account of having done it He's also lord of Wisdom and a whole host of other things. In the Mythology, he's rather passive though, despite being ludicrously powerful. I honestly don't know all that much about him, mostly because he's not very active like the others. His consort is Saraswati, who is Goddess of Knowledge, Wisdom, Education, Learning, Literature, and a host of related domains.

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* Shiva is also of major importance. He's the Destroyer of Everything. Mostly people focus on the "destroying evils" thing, but he's also fully capable of ending reality if he chose to do so. He's got plenty of methods to do so. Shiva is also Nataraja, and thus the Lord of Dance. He's also got a bunch of other names and faces under which Shiva is the god of all wilderness and all animals, as well as the Keeper of the Cosmic Sounds, and the Ascetic of the Gods. He's also somewhat antisocial and moody, which contrastingly makes him easy to appease when it comes to asking for boons.

* Rudra is actually another name for Shiva, these days. They share the same domain, though Rudra is the face of Shiva when Shiva is angry. Note that the name "Rudra" is a simplification of the deity's original name which means "The Howler". Rudra is the lord of the Maruts, who are storm gods and very violent ones at that. Drawing the wrath of Shiva has never been a good thing in the mythology - it always ends badly.

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* Vishnu is the one with a lot of myths to his name, just like Shiva. And given he's got Ten Avatars, each with their own stories and myths... he gets around a lot in the stories. Of course, all of those Avatars are essentially Vishnu taking a face and downgrading it to the level of a demi-god in order to act on the mortal plane. Simply because gods like Vishnu and the others at/near his caliber are simply far too powerful to be anywhere near mortals. There's a scene in the Mahabharata during the Bhagavad Gita scenes where Arjuna basically asks Krishna to show him his true form. Krishna acquiesces and Arjuna, a demi-god himself, is completely overwhelmed by this revelation, and if not for Krishna guiding him through it, probably would have shattered completely for trying to comprehend all that Krishna was.

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Would bang.

KALI: The God of Destruction once empowered the assassin "Deathtoll" after being pleased by her murderous ways. Kenma: Its not wholly accurate to call Kali the consort of Shiva. She is, but the title isn't that of "Shiva's Wife" - that's Parvati's title. But Parvati and Kali are kind of the same person? But not really? It really depends on who you're asking, because the stories differ widely. Nevertheless, she's absolutely terrifying, vastly powerful, and usually can only be tamed by Shiva (who himself is tamed by Parvati, who may or may not also be Kali as well as Gauri... theirs is an interesting relationship).

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YAMA: The God of Death joined Marvel's other Death Gods in a power-grab, but were eaten by The Demogorge for their crimes.

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GANESHA: The famed Elephant-Headed God, formed when his father Shiva decapitated him in a case of mistaken identity, then slapped on the head of the closest thing he could find. Ganesha, who is Lord of Openings and Beginnings, as well as being credited as the scribe of the Mahabharata. Ganesha is SUPER important because no undertaking can begin without his approval, and thus prayers to Ganesha precede every ritual. In Marvel, he is apparently the patron God of Behemoth (formerly the Man-Elephant).

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INDRA: He's Lord of Thunder and Lightning, God of the Sky, Storms and Rainfall, King of Heaven, Ruler of the Devas. That last one is an important distinction - he rules over Heaven and the Devas, and while all devas are gods, not all gods are devas. Indra's fairly powerful and skillful, and owner of Vajra (the Thunderbolt) and the Vasavi Shakti, which was a weapon of exceptional power that was a major plot-point during the Mahabharata and the Kurukshetra War. Indra's essentially the same as Zeus in terms of power and domain, only he's not a complete douche, and actually has superiors he answers to.
AGNI: Agni is the God of Fire. First I'm hearing of lightning though (that's usually Indra's thing), but given how ancient Hindus viewed Lightning as a kind of Fire, I suppose that fits. He's also of exceptional import because a lot of Religious Rites involve fire - like, virtually all of them involve fire in some fashion. And as one of the Five Elements, he's part of the building blocks of reality.
LAKSHMI: Lakshmi is also Vishnu's consort, and not only a goddess of fortune, but also prosperity and good luck. By contrast, know that whatever she can give (wealth, luck, a prosperous household and family), she can also take away just as easily (and has done so in quite a few stories).

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OTHERS: There are literally thousands of Gods, so summing them up is largely impossible. "Surya and Ushas are solar deities (though Surya is THE sun god, and all others are just other faces of his, or consorts of some sort), Tvashtri is goddess of artisans of all sorts (and patron of the Sciences, but that's more Saraswati's domain). Garuda is more of a demi-god, and Yama used to be a demi-god, but is now mostly all god."
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Re: Jab's Builds! (Lady Hellbender! American Gods! Hindu Gods!)

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In many ways, it is a good thing that Hinduism doesn't get turned into a bunch of supehero characters with much proeminence. One of them relates to overpowered characters: If Thor is already a power-geek's dream, can you imagine one such author telling stories about a deity-hero getting their hands on multiple high-end Astras?

Mjolnir can be overpowered, with a dozen different limit-break-style cosmic energies, but at least it can't destroy from a whole continent to the entire universe...

Still, if you scale back how strong the Astras can get, a Hindu deity could fill the roles of Hawkeye and Thor in a super team for the most part.

As an aside, It is also interesting that some takes on Hindu religion put the Tridevi above the Trimurti, despite the 3 goddesses having what appears at first brush like lesser spheres of influence than their male counterparts. Then again they are expressions of Shakti, which is sometimes considered a supreme deity.

Durga is perhaps also too powerful, as another Shakti emanation, but the whole "supreme feminine power and also supreme warrior badass in a whole pantheon of warriors, embodying the noble and defensive/protective side of warfare" could perhaps make an interesting powerhouse for a superhero team, similarly to Athena.

Now that I think on it, a whole team of war goddesses could make for an entertaining series. Imagine how much bickering would Athena "Say no to Eros" and Ishtar "there are sacred prostitutes in my temples" would get into XD

EDIT: Also, with Hindu Yama, Chinese Yanluo-Wang and Japanese Enma Daio being pretty much the same deity by different names (and possibly Korean Yeomra as well, but I'm not informed enough about that one), dude must be the most busy god in the entire cosmos!
Dealing with the dead with at least 3 different cultures ( 2 of which number among the most numerous on the planet, one of which is specifically organized cosmologically as a celestial bureaucracy, and another with all the mess of reincarnations, avatars, emanations, aspects, et cetera), multiple hells and stuff can't be easy. If souls under their care empower death gods, Yama is surely the most powerful of them all, but I bet the others don't envy the amount of work he has to do...
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