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Considering all the crap and trauma he went through before, this last thing could've just been the straw that broke the camel's back so to speak. From what I've seen, the Star Wars universe really doesn't have therapists and mental-health specialists. Over time that stuff can and does build up. With no real treatment, all it could take is one final act to push a guy over the edge. Basically. Luke lost it.
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JEDI POWERS:
-Jedi are exceptionally skilled, varied fighters in the Star Wars universe- a single one is likely the most top-tier character around (the only thing that can stop an elite Jedi/Sith is a Starfighter).

* They wield Lightsabers, the more-dangerous weapon usually seen on regular people. They do WAY more damage than any hand-held laser. Even a complete weakling can do a ton of damage with them, though they're still Strength-Based (the blade will hurt anything touching it, but it really needs some "oomph" behind it to do major damage).
* They have Force Senses, generally allowing them to Detect Life, as well as sense the levels of Force in others. Also, limited Precognition (though many never come close to developing that).
* Enhanced skills and reflexes- most are natural Pilots (even with devices that humans can't oridinarily use), have Defensive Roll, and even improved aiming capabilities.
* Force-Assisted Movement, making them faster than most.
* Standard Force Powers: Telekinesis (usually low-level- Yoda's lifting of a damaged ship is treated as a HUGE feat, when it's a low-tier Jean Grey-level showing), "Force Push" (basically knocking guys on their asses), the famous "Jedi Mind Trick" (convincing only the Mookiest of Mooks something- never works on an important character), Limited Mental Communication (few master this), and of course, the ability to Deflect Lasers. This is probably their most-USEFUL power in the setting, as they can basically become nigh-immune to the most-common thing in the setting (Lasers), and start whipping all attacks directed at them right back at the shooters. This includes both Reflect & Redirect, as well as Multiattack, since they so frequenly mow down multiple shooters per round (this is most-often seen against the Combat Droids in the Prequels).
* There's also the "Channel the Dark Side" ability- a Power Level upgrade that has dangerous side-effects for some characters. Only a few Jedi are really seen doing that, however. Most don't try to tempt the Dark Side.

Jedi Knights- Y U SO DOMINANT?:
-Force Users tend to be pretty overpowered in this setting. It's kind of inevitable. In the narrative, it's because the main characters- Luke, Anakin/Vader, Obi-Wan, Palpatine- are all masters of the Force. Therefore, because they're main characters, they're the best. But they even dwarf the abilities of OTHER characters, many of whom are great fighters as well (Boba Fett, Han Solo). It's pretty easy to explain, however:

* They're wielding Lightsabers, the most-damaging weapon anybody can carry around. They do +6 damage, and few Jedi are below Strength 2. Most Laser Blasts are between Blast 5-6. And in M&M, damage is slightly better than accuracy.
* Star Wars is a setting where high Strength and Toughness are rare- Wookiees are one of the most-powerful Sentient Races, and they're not stronger than say, a regular bear. And so the high-powered Lightsabers are almost Gamebreakers- Pretty much any Jedi can hit with +8 Damage right out of the gate, and few enemies will ever go above Toughness +4. A successful hit means most enemies need a "19" or higher to even avoid damage, and even a "14" will get them Dazed. In most fights, even against other JEDI, the Lightsaber basically hits and the other guy goes down- maimings and deaths are almost always the result.
* They're melee fighters, in a world where most guys are Blasters & Dodgers. Few people are keyed in properly to avoid melee attacks.
* Since every other character is stuck with Laser Blasts, having a power that specifically lets you blast away at anyone in range USING SOMEONE ELSE'S LASER BLASTS makes you way more powerful.

Though in the Prequels, we see a lot more of the "Jobber Jedi"- in the Battle of Geonosis, more than a HUNDRED of them are slaughtered by attrition fire from the Combat Droids. Jango Fett even manages to off a Jedi Council member with ease! General Grievous exterminates a handful of Jobber Jedi in the Clone Wars cartoon, as well. But a true top-tier like Mace Windu or Yoda? They'd annihilate any of the low-tier Blasters.

The core Star Wars material is also very handy for figuring out "Tiers" of Jedi Knights, though comparing the Original Trilogy with The Prequels is a bit tougher, as the characters don't translate exactly (due to the number of years separating them).

Star Wars:
* Darth Vader & Obi-Wan Kenobi have a slow, more-practised fight. Obi-Wan dies, basically of his own will.

The Empire Strikes Back:
* Darth Vader handily defeats Luke Skywalker (who's been training with Yoda), throwing stuff at him, overpowering him, and cutting off his hand. He controls basically the entire fight.

Return of the Jedi:
* Luke defeats Vader in a rematch, starting as equals before finally overpowering him (clearly tapping the Dark Side and using anger and rage to win, before drawing himself back from the brink).
* The Emperor easily defeats Luke, thanks to basically using a surprise attack with Force Lightning ("Warn him about the Lightning, we should have," Yoda likely said to Obi-Wan in the Spirit World).
* Vader one-shots The Emperor, but is fatally-injured in the process, thanks to Falling Damage being a Gamebreaker. Great use of terrain as an advantage (note to Evil Warlords: if you're more powerful than your opponents, don't stand in areas where they can simply toss you to your doom).

The Phantom Menace:
* Darth Maul easily holds off Obi-Wan Kenobi (as a Padawan) & Qui-Gon Jinn at the same time. Separating them, he handily kills Qui-Gon. Obi-Wan fights an uphill battle (enraged and wanting revenge), managing to score a lucky hit and kills Maul. Translation: Maul is much better than either Jedi (who are obviously inexperienced against fighting an actual Lightsaber-wielder).

Attack of the Clones:
* Hundreds of Jedi Knights job their asses off against robots & Jango Fett. Mace Windu easily kills him.
* Count Dooku handily-defeats Obi-Wan Kenobi (a full Knight) & Anakin Skywalker (Padawan). Would have killed both had Yoda not intervened.
* Yoda & Count Dooku have a stalemate, with Yoda able to counter all of Dooku's offense. Evenly-matched, Dooku uses a threat against the two fallen Jedi to escape.

The Clone Wars (cartoon series):
* General Grievous easily defeats several Jedi Knights (Shaak-Ti, and Ithorian and some other guy, basically all at once), being treated like a horror movie treats Jason or Freddy.
* Mace Windu easily-defeats General Grievous, Force Crushing his chest.

Revenge of the Sith:
* Obi-Wan & Anakin fight Count Dooku again, with Obi-Wan being KO'd. Anakin is able to overpower and kill Dooku. Translation: Anakin has Leveled Up; Obi-Wan isn't that good.
* Obi-Wan easily kills an injured, coughing General Grievous.
* The Emperor easily kills three Jedi Knights in a couple rounds of combat.
* Mace Windu holds off The Emperor, eventually deflecting his lightning back. Anakin TKs him, saving The Emperor from certain death.
* The Emperor & Yoda battle, again being pretty evenly-matched. It ends in a stalemate, and both escape.

Star Wars- Rebels (cartoon series):
* The Inquisitor starts off better than either Kanan or Ezra.
* Eventually, both face The Inquisitor again, with him finally being defeated after one of the Jedi (I forget which) had been KO'd. He commits suicide rather than accept help.
* DARTH VADER faces off against The Rebels, absolutely handing them their asses. Casually tosses off huge chunks of scenery, Force Tosses the Jedi around, and deflects Mandalorian Chick's lasers right back at her. Essentially treated like Godzilla attacking Tokyo.
* Later on, the heroes slowly upgrade, and beat another pair of Inquisitors regularly.

The Sequel Trilogy:
* Kylo Ren cannot defeat a single named Jedi character in battle- only Han Solo (with a surprise attack) and Mooks.
* Rey defeats an injured Kylo Ren, and later does a Limit Break against The Emperor, who himself is powered up by plot armor.

Translation:
* Mace Windu is the absolute BMF of the universe.
* Obi-Wan Kenobi is the Worf of Star Wars.
* Dooku & The Emperor are both evenly-matched with Yoda.
* Jedi magically get shittier the more of them are involved in a fight. They must willingly hold back if an opponent if an ally is close by- those Lightsabers are too dangerous to do otherwise. In all three Prequel films, multiple Jedi job to a single Sith, and in two of them; the Jedi win after the elder Jedi has jobbed.
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Jedi seem to have a "The Conservation of Ninjutsu" issue.

You know, how if you see a hundred Ninjas you're probably going to cut through them like butter. But if you face only one Ninja you're probably about to get wrecked.

Seems to work for the Jedi as well ;~)
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Well, Lucas did draw on the Ninja/Samurai thing quite abit. If you think about it, Jedi are Samurai, Sith are Ninja.
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Re: Star Wars

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RUSCHE wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2020 11:02 pm
I am so looking forward to this.
That's great, thanks man :). Glad to have you, Kirinke, MC48 and all you others aboard for this set!
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Speeder Bikes & Landspeeders

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SPEEDER BIKE
Role: Ludicrously-Impractical Device

Baseline Stats: Medium Size, Strength 0, Defense 10, Toughness 5 (10)
Movement: Flight 7 (Quirks: Can Only Get 30 Feet Above Ground-Level -2) (12)
Features: None (0)

Weapons:
"Front Lasers" Blast 5 (Extras: Multiattack) (15)

Total Cost: Stats: 10 / Movement: 12 / Features: 0 / Weapons: 0 (37 Equipment Points)

-In one of the distinct, memorable portions of Retun of the Jedi was when Luke & Leia get involved in a Chase Scene with some Stormtroopers through some dense forest on these insanely-fast Jetbike things. They filmed the sequence by travelling through a forest with a special camera set-up at normal speeds... then simply ramped up the speed of the footage so it looked like they were going at lightning speed between the trees! Now, this would be INSANE to try in real life, even if you had The Force on your side, much less if you're just a Stormtrooper, but man, those bucketheads were right up there with the heroes for a while.

-A Speeder Bike is more or less a Flying Motorcycle- it's pretty fragile and goes REALLY fast, so if you hit something, you're gonna die.

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LANDSPEEDERS
Role: Standard Ground Vehicles

Baseline Stats: Large Size, Strength 4, Defense 6, Toughness 7 (9)
Movement: Flight 6 (Quirks: Can Only Get 30 Feet Above Ground-Level -2) (10)
Features: None (0)

Weapons:
None (0)

Total Cost: Stats: 9 / Movement: 10 / Features: 0 / Weapons: 0 (19 Equipment Points)

-These are very-common vehicles, and the stats will do for just about anything that tends to have room for a handful of people and just zip around on planetary surfaces. A few have some military weapons on them, but they're definitely no match for a fully-powered jet or anything.
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Re: Jedi Powers

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Jabroniville wrote: Sat Jan 25, 2020 7:54 pm JEDI POWERS:
I think you're missing Danger Sense keyed to the Life Sense ability
Jabroniville wrote: Sat Jan 25, 2020 7:54 pm * Obi-Wan Kenobi is the Worf of Star Wars.
I can't disagree more here. Among Obi-Wan's accomplishments:
-Defeated Darth Maul
-Defeated General Grievous
-Defeated Anakin
-Was one of the few Jedi to survive Order 66
-Fought Vader to a draw

Basically, his only defeat is to Dooku, who is a full on Sith Master. And he beat Anakin, who had earlier whipped Dooku.
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Lol. Star Wars is a geek-squee for me. Along with the Dark Crystal and the rest of the Jim Henson goodies. You cannot have Star Wars without Jim Henson's Muppets. :lol:
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Re: Jedi Powers

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Shock wrote: Sat Jan 25, 2020 10:28 pm
Jabroniville wrote: Sat Jan 25, 2020 7:54 pm * Obi-Wan Kenobi is the Worf of Star Wars.
I can't disagree more here. Among Obi-Wan's accomplishments:
-Defeated Darth Maul
-Defeated General Grievous
-Defeated Anakin
-Was one of the few Jedi to survive Order 66
-Fought Vader to a draw

Basically, his only defeat is to Dooku, who is a full on Sith Master. And he beat Anakin, who had earlier whipped Dooku.
Agreed. Obi-Wan is definitely one of the best Jedi in the Order, and is more or less my ideal of what a "classic" Jedi should be.

The novelization of Revenge of the Sith (one of the best Star Wars novels ever, IMO) goes into detail about Obi-Wan's skills in relation to the other Jedi Masters of the Order.

There were basically 7 classic Lightsaber forms of the old Jedi Order:

Form 1 - Shii-Cho: The basic lightsaber form taught to all lightsaber adepts, with teaches you the fundamentals. Every lightsaber form after this develops a specialization in some way, but mastery of this form would make you a very balanced lightsaber duelist. There were no well known Jedi that used this form in the films.
Form 2 - Makashi: A form developed to fight other swordsmen, specializing in dueling. It was mainly about precision and footwork, having a more elegant "fencing" style. They were often highly mobile, able to disable opponents with expertly landed single hits, and evade attacks with clever parries and fast footwork. It made the user a terror to others in one-on-one fights with other swordsmen. The main user of this form in the films was Count Dooku.
Form 3 - Soresu: A form developed with the advent of blasters and having to deal with multiple opponents at once. This style focuses primarily on defense, being able to deflect attacks from almost any angle with minimal effort, conserving the users energy. You either use your opponents attacks to counter attack (deflecting attacks back at them or into other opponents), or you use your defense to create opportunities to attack. A master of this form was considered a living shield that would either wear out his opponent or somehow turn the opponents offense to his advantage. The main user of this form in the films was Obi-Wan Kenobi.
Form 4 - Ataru: A form developed during the Sith Wars when it became more necessary to deal with opponents quickly. This form focuses on a speedy offense, using the Force to increase mobility and attack speed, becoming a flurry of movement on the battlefield. The goal was to be able to take advantage of the terrain via enhanced leaping, speed and mobility, and being able to overwhelm your opponent with quick attacks, relying largely on dodging for defense. The main users of this form in the films were Qui-Gon Jin and Yoda.
Form 5 - Shien / Djem So: A form developed for those who enjoyed the defensive aspects of Form 3, but wanted to have more offensive options. It kept some of the defensive capabilities of Form 3, but would focus on counter attacks and powerful, deliberate attacks designed to break through your opponents defense. The main users of this form in the films was Anakin Skywalker.
Form 6 - Niman: A form developed to allow Jedi to be effective swordsmen without focusing purely on swordsmanship. It was a balanced style that combined elements of the previous five styles into one that was considered effective but bland, having no outstanding strengths or weaknesses. The main benefit is that it would allow Jedi to focus on other pursuits, such as diplomacy, medicine, or mastery of the Force. It was a form that would benefit a Jedi whose pursuit was not that of a warrior, allowing them to be effective but rarely on par with other Jedi swordsmen. However, mastery of it could make one very effective if they combined it with Force manipulation, as it was one of the few styles that could easily incorporate many Force Powers into it's style. There were no well known Jedi that used this form in the films.
Form 7 - Juyo / Vaapad: A rare form that the Jedi discouraged teaching, as it required the user to master their own inner darkness. While most Jedi were taught to fight without relying on their emotions, Form 7 required the user to actually enjoy the battle, the excitement and thrill that came from one-on-one combat, and the desire for victory. In short, it required the user to walk in the grey area that could lead one to the Dark Side if you gave into those emotions. A master of this form would become a powerful and dangerous opponent, essentially combining the best aspects of Forms 3, 4 and 5 into a single style without any of their weaknesses, as well as giving the user an advantage against those that wielded the Dark Side. A Form 7 user could essentially allow Dark Side techniques to simply flow 'through them' without touching them. The main user of this form in the films was Mace Windu.

Obi-Wan was considered the best Form 3 master in the Order, to the point that Mace Windu considered him THE master of the style, and a swordsman on par with Mace and Yoda. He even considered Obi-Wan the best chance the Jedi had for capturing and defeating Grevious, since in the novel Grevious didn't have that cough, and his fight with Mace had gone differently. Obi-Wan was also considered one of the only Jedi who really had any chance against Anakin, who was known as the most powerful Jedi of the time and one of the greatest swordsmen.

The fight with Qui-Gon, Obi-Wan and Maul is interesting, because Maul is primarily on the defensive against the two Jedi, with Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan constantly forcing him backwards, and Maul was only able to land kicks and such on Obi-Wan. Qui-Gon lands a pretty hard punch to Maul and continues to force him backwards into that tunnel. But once Qui-Gon is in that confined location, Maul is able create an opening and land a fatal blow on the Jedi Master, requiring Obi-Wan to face him alone. And Obi-Wan holds his own against Maul, destroying half of the Sith Lord's staff and only getting knocked back with an unexpected Force Push.

With his fight against Dooku the first time, Obi-Wan was going up against someone who was considered one of the greatest duelists in the Jedi Order's history BEFORE he turned to the Dark Side and went full Sith. Losing to someone who held his own against Yoda isn't anything to be ashamed of. In the rematch, at least in the novel, Dooku notices how Obi-Wan and Anakin had improved massively since their first duel, to the point that the two of them had him on the defensive and he realized he was in danger of losing. So he technically cheated by sending in Super Battledroids to distract Obi-Wan, and then used a Darkside Desperation Move to take him out of the fight. It was clear that by the time of the rematch, Obi-Wan was someone Dooku feared to have a fair, one-on-one fight with.

In the fight with Grievous, they state that Grievous starts the fight making basically 15 attacks per second, each one from a different angle and speed, each made with an intentionally broken rhythm to make them difficult to predict. Obi-Wan was able to parry most of the attacks, making several of the parried attacks interfere with and deflect some of Grievous' own attacks, and then dodge the rest by making simple, minimalist shifts of balance that had the attacks miss him by centimeters. So Grievous ramped up the attacks to 18 attacks per second, then 20, until finally there were too many attacks for even Obi-Wan to parry. So Obi-Wan used his defense to attack, basically by aiming his parries so that instead of Grievous' blades, he was parrying the lightsaber hilts. Obi-Wan basically made Grievous disarm himself when the bio-droid's swings would cause his lightsaber hilts to be chopped in half, until Grievous wound up holding four useless hunks of lightsaber.
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Jabroniville wrote: Sat Jan 25, 2020 10:28 pm Image

SPEEDER BIKE
Role: Ludicrously-Impractical Device

Baseline Stats: Medium Size, Strength 0, Defense 10, Toughness 5 (10)
Movement: Flight 7 (Quirks: Can Only Get 30 Feet Above Ground-Level -2) (12)
Features: None (0)

Weapons:
None (0)

Total Cost: Stats: 10 / Movement: 12 / Features: 0 / Weapons: 0 (22 Equipment Points)

-In one of the distinct, memorable portions of Retun of the Jedi was when Luke & Leia get involved in a Chase Scene with some Stormtroopers through some dense forest on these insanely-fast Jetbike things. They filmed the sequence by travelling through a forest with a special camera set-up at normal speeds... then simply ramped up the speed of the footage so it looked like they were going at lightning speed between the trees! Now, this would be INSANE to try in real life, even if you had The Force on your side, much less if you're just a Stormtrooper, but man, those bucketheads were right up there with the heroes for a while.

-A Speeder Bike is more or less a Flying Motorcycle- it's pretty fragile and goes REALLY fast, so if you hit something, you're gonna die.
Minor correction, but these Speeder Bikes did have built in blasters in the undercarriage. When Luke gets knocked off his bike, the Scout Trooper swerves around and starts blasting at him with the bike's gun, only for Luke to deflect all of the shots and then cut off the bike's guide fins and the poor dope crashes into a tree.
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Jabroniville wrote: Sat Jan 25, 2020 7:54 pm
* Obi-Wan easily kills an injured, coughing General Grievous.
I don't know if I'd say easily. The fight/chase was pretty lengthy and Obi Wan did have to do something uncharacteristic of a Jedi to win it.
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Re: Jedi Powers

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Shock wrote: Sat Jan 25, 2020 10:28 pm
Jabroniville wrote: Sat Jan 25, 2020 7:54 pm JEDI POWERS:
I think you're missing Danger Sense keyed to the Life Sense ability
I honestly see Jedi surprised way too often to ever give most of them that ability. Order 66 practically wiped out them all. Luke never saw Force Lightning coming.
I can't disagree more here. Among Obi-Wan's accomplishments:
-Defeated Darth Maul
-Defeated General Grievous
-Defeated Anakin
-Was one of the few Jedi to survive Order 66
-Fought Vader to a draw

Basically, his only defeat is to Dooku, who is a full on Sith Master. And he beat Anakin, who had earlier whipped Dooku.
But he only beat Anakin using the “high ground” hack :)! Terrain is a cheat! Though my Obi-Wan build more or less amends this, as you’ll see here:
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Obi-Wan Kenobi

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OBI-WAN KENOBI
Role:
The Mentor
Group Affiliations: The Jedi Knights, The Rebellion
PL 11 (205)
STRENGTH
2 STAMINA 4 AGILITY 5
FIGHTING 11 DEXTERITY 5
INTELLIGENCE 3 AWARENESS 4 PRESENCE 2

Skills:
Acrobatics 7 (+12)
Athletics 9 (+11)
Close Combat (Lightsaber) 3 (+14)
Deception 2 (+4)
Expertise (Soldier) 10 (+13)
Insight 4 (+8)
Investigation 4 (+8)
Perception 8 (+12)
Persuasion 4 (+6)
Stealth 2 (+7)
Technology 4 (+7)
Vehicles 5 (+10)

Advantages:
Accurate Attack, Agile Feint, Defensive Attack, Diehard, Equipment 3 (Blaster +5, Assorted Gear), Great Endurance, Improved Critical (Lightsaber) 2, Improved Defense 2, Improved Disarm, Improved Initiative 2, Interpose, Languages (A Few), Luck, Move-By Action, Quick Draw, Ranged Attack 6, Seize Initiative, Uncanny Dodge

Powers:
"Mastery of The Force"
"Force Senses"
Senses 10 (Detect The Force- Ranged 4, Detect Life- Ranged 4) [10]
Senses 4 (Precognition) (Flaws: Uncontrolled) [2]
Enhanced Skill 2: Vehicles 2 (+12) [1]
Enhanced Advantages 5: Defensive Roll 2, Improved Aim, Precise Attack 2 (Ranged/Cover, Close/Concealment) [5]

"Force-Assisted Movement"
Leaping 1 (15 feet) [1]
Speed 2 (8 mph) [2]

"Jedi Laser Deflection" Deflect 12 (Extras: Multiattack, Reflect, Redirection) (Flaws: Limited to Lasers, Lightsaber-Based, Multiattack Requires Multiple Lasers -1/2) (18) -- [21]
  • AE: "Use The Force" Move Object 6 (Feats: Subtle) (Diminished Range -1) (12)
  • AE: "Force Push" Damage 2 (Feats: Subtle) (Extras: Area- 30ft. Cone +1/2) Linked to Affliction 5 (Strength; Hindered & Vulnerable/Prone & Stunned) (Feats: Subtle) (Extras: Extra Condition, Area- 30ft. Cone +1/2) (Flaws: Limited Degree) (12.5)
  • AE: "Jedi Mind Trick" Affliction 6 (Will; Dazed/Compelled) (Feats: Subtle) (Extras: Area- Audio Perception, Selective) (Flaws: Limited Degree) (13)
"Lightsaber" (Flaws: Easily Removable) (Feats: Restricted to Those Trained) [9]
Strength-Damage +6 (Extras: Penetrating 7) (13 points)

Offense:
Unarmed +11 (+2 Damage, DC 17)
Lightsaber +14 (+8 Damage, DC 23)
Laser Blaster +11 (+5 Ranged Damage, DC 20)
Force Push +2-6 Area (+2 Damage & +6 Affliction, DC 12 & 16)
Mind Trick +6 Area (+6 Affliction, DC 16)
Initiative +13

Defenses:
Dodge +14 (DC 24), Parry +15 (DC 25), Toughness +4 (+6 D.Roll), Fortitude +6, Will +12

Complications:
Responsibility (The Jedi Order)- Jedi are under numerous rules (never falling in love, stuff like that), and their mission is to keep peace and order throughout the galaxy.
Relationship (Qui-Gon Jinn)- Obi-Wan's mentor was a wise, brave man, and Obi-Wan tries to uphold his legacy, especially through Anakin.
Relationship (Anakin Skywalker)- Obi-Wan has trained young Anakin since he was a boy, though he finds Anakin's energy and risk-taking to be troublesome and annoying. However, he is devoted to the young man, believing in Qui-Gon's theory that Anakin is "The Chosen One" to bring balance to The Force.
Relationship (Padme Amidala, Jar Jar Binks, Others)- Obi-Wan has made many allies in the war against the Separatist forces.
Relationship (Master Yoda, Mace Windu)- Obi-Wan defers to the wisdom of these most-elite of Jedi.
Secret (Many)- Obi-Wan becomes a secret-keeper following the rise of the Empire- he disappears onto Tatooine to oversee Luke Skywalker (Anakin's son), taking the name "Ben", and watching what happens to Darth Vader and the galaxy he'd once sworn to protect. He hides his identity as one of the sole remaining Jedi Knights, and keeps the truth of Luke's father from the boy. "True from a certain point of view" is really just a fancy word for "totally lying".
Responsibility (The Dark Side)- The Dark Side is dangerously-close for all Jedi. Using the "Channel the Dark Side Powers", using Dark Side-like powers (like strangling someone with The Force, or crushing them internally), killing defeated foes or otherwise killing needlessly, and even using All-Out or Power Attack too often can lead the Jedi down a dark path. The Dark Side is "quicker, EASIER- more seductive," and the temporary boost of power can easily tempt one. Excessive use of the Dark Side will twist one's spirit, and mangle their body.
Weakness (Inverse Law of Ninjitsu)- Jedi Knights become magically shittier the more of them are involved with one conflict. Two Jedi frequently lose against a single opponent, leaving the survivor to defeat the enemy. If there are dozens of Jedi around you, you're pretty f*cked. Maybe they just can't use their Lightsabers to full-effectiveness with allies close by.

Total: Abilities: 72 / Skills: 62--31 / Advantages: 28 / Powers: 51 / Defenses: 23 (205)

Obi-Wan- The Ultimate Mentor:
-Obi-Wan has gone on to become one of the most-legendary "Mentor Figure" characters of all- he's got the role pegged, right down to being old, robed, and dead. He was portrayed by classically-trained actor Alec Guinness, who allegedly begged to be killed in the first one because he hated the material so much, and went on to decry the movie in his later years. But he lent the first film the gravitas it needed- a serious note that kept the thing grounded when it could have come off as ridiculously-silly. And his teachings continued on, as he remained a Disembodied Voice in Empire and ROTJ, sometimes showing up all blue and glow-y. This continued the grand, mysterious nature of The Force. It's only too bad that further chapters of the saga, and the Prequels, have rendered a lot of his dialogue in the first film to be total hogwash- basically he suffers from Lucas introducing Retcon after Retcon, saying "What I said was TRUE from a certain point of view" to get away with uttering misdirections.

-Obi-Wan's backstory became a big part of the saga, as Expanded Universe material combined with Lucas's notes to show the tales of him training a young Anakin Skywalker, watching his charge turn to The Dark Side, and eventually mutilating Darth Vader in a battle inside a volcano. He's a central figure in The Prequels, first being a young Padawan under the tutelage of Qui-Gon Jinn. He sees his own mentor slain by a Sith Lord (ooh, callback... or foreshadowing. Sort of), and takes it upon himself to train Anakin Skywalker, the boy Qui-Gon discovered on Tatooine. By the second Prequel, he's grown the beard his character would be known for, acting as the "boring unfun mentor guy" to the hot-headed, arrogant Anakin. Here, he's a bit more stiff and wooden, something Ewan McGregor & Liam Neeson have apologized for, blaming it partially on all the Green-Screens and CGI crap (one of the big flaws of the Prequels, really- the actors were so often running around in green rooms that things lose a bit of credibility and "in the now" for them). Plus he's given some REALLY bad dialogue, though not as bad as what Anakin & Padme had to spew in the end.

-Obi-Wan is curiously absent from the Sequel Trilogy, is his original actor was dead, and I guess they didn't wanna get McGregor back to do a "Force Ghost" thing- instead, it's Luke & Yoda playing the blue ghosts. He was in my favorite Star Wars fight ever, though, cutting down Darth Maul for good in Star Wars: Rebels, using a more realistic style against the Force Spinjitsu Maul always did.

Obi-Wan's Skills & Powers:
-Obi-Wan is a great swordfighter, but spends a lot of time in the movies being trounced by a single Sith Lord, despite fighting as part of a duo- Darth Maul & Count Dooku both handle the heroes quite effectively- Obi-Wan loses in both fights against Dooku (though he's Sneak Attacked while fighting Droids in the second), and can only defeat Darth Maul as a Padawan after watching his own teacher being cut down, and largely by a lot of luck. However, he's ALSO elite enough to easily-kill General Grievous (who had been badly-injured and was coughing the whole film), and he's able to cripple full-on Dark Lord Anakin Skywalker in the final moments of Revenge of the Sith, so it's not like he sucks or anything. I nearly went with PL 10, but I think he matches up with the Fully-Realized Luke Skywalker in the end of Return of the Jedi- both men are able to defeat Anakin Skywalker, and are classic well-rounded heroes who can stomp any of the sub-tier villains. His style is fairly well-rounded, but he lacks some of Luke's more-dramatic abilities- his defensive style lacks the "oomph" of Takedown, Power Attack and other bits, nor is he that good of a team fighter (EVERY TIME he's in a team battle, either both Jedi lose, or one loses and the other wins solo).

-Obi-Wan is a bit more well-rounded than Luke is Skill-wise though, as he was turned into a major Military Leader during the Separatist & Clone Wars, often sent on solo missions. He never taps into the Dark Side, unlike the Skywalkers- his mental control is far superior to either, though he lacks their might in The Force. His Parry is better, too.

-This build reflects Obi-Wan Kenobi at the peak of his power- in Episode I, he's barely a PL 8 Padawan, capable but not elite. His win against Darth Maul is more luck and Hero Point playing (he JUST WATCHED Qui-Gon die). The Separatist & Clone Wars turned him into an elite hero (often going on solo missions of great importance). But the Original Trilogy, he's an old man (the twenty-ish years since Revenge of the Sith having apparently aged him a LOT), much slower on the draw. He's probably only PL 9 by that point, though since he willingly-jobbed to Darth Vader in the end, it's unclear just how great a fighter he still is (it doesn't help that Star Wars has by far the series' clunkiest, poorest swordfighting). His whole "Disappear Into The Force" thing is really more of a Feature.
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Re: Obi-Wan Kenobi

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OBI-WAN KENOBI
Role:
The Mentor
Group Affiliations: The Jedi Knights, The Rebellion
PL 11 (205)
STRENGTH
2 STAMINA 4 AGILITY 5
FIGHTING 11 DEXTERITY 5
INTELLIGENCE 3 AWARENESS 4 PRESENCE 2

Skills:
Acrobatics 7 (+12)
Athletics 9 (+11)
Close Combat (Lightsaber) 3 (+14)
Deception 2 (+4)
Expertise (Soldier) 10 (+13)
Insight 4 (+8)
Investigation 4 (+8)
Perception 8 (+12)
Persuasion 4 (+6)
Stealth 2 (+7)
Technology 4 (+7)
Vehicles 5 (+10)

Advantages:
Accurate Attack, Agile Feint, Defensive Attack, Diehard, Equipment 3 (Blaster +5, Assorted Gear), Great Endurance, Improved Critical (Lightsaber) 2, Improved Defense 2, Improved Disarm, Improved Initiative 2, Interpose, Languages (A Few), Luck, Move-By Action, Quick Draw, Ranged Attack 6, Seize Initiative, Uncanny Dodge

Powers:
"Mastery of The Force"
"Force Senses"
Senses 10 (Detect The Force- Ranged 4, Detect Life- Ranged 4) [10]
Senses 4 (Precognition) (Flaws: Uncontrolled) [2]
Enhanced Skill 2: Vehicles 2 (+12) [1]
Enhanced Advantages 5: Defensive Roll 2, Improved Aim, Precise Attack 2 (Ranged/Cover, Close/Concealment) [5]

"Force-Assisted Movement"
Leaping 1 (15 feet) [1]
Speed 2 (8 mph) [2]

"Jedi Laser Deflection" Deflect 12 (Extras: Multiattack, Reflect, Redirection) (Flaws: Limited to Lasers, Lightsaber-Based, Multiattack Requires Multiple Lasers -1/2) (18) -- [21]
  • AE: "Use The Force" Move Object 6 (Feats: Subtle) (Diminished Range -1) (12)
  • AE: "Force Push" Damage 2 (Feats: Subtle) (Extras: Area- 30ft. Cone +1/2) Linked to Affliction 5 (Strength; Hindered & Vulnerable/Prone & Stunned) (Feats: Subtle) (Extras: Extra Condition, Area- 30ft. Cone +1/2) (Flaws: Limited Degree) (12.5)
  • AE: "Jedi Mind Trick" Affliction 6 (Will; Dazed/Compelled) (Feats: Subtle) (Extras: Area- Audio Perception, Selective) (Flaws: Limited Degree) (13)
"Lightsaber" (Flaws: Easily Removable) (Feats: Restricted to Those Trained) [9]
Strength-Damage +6 (Extras: Penetrating 7) (13 points)

Offense:
Unarmed +11 (+2 Damage, DC 17)
Lightsaber +14 (+8 Damage, DC 23)
Laser Blaster +11 (+5 Ranged Damage, DC 20)
Force Push +2-6 Area (+2 Damage & +6 Affliction, DC 12 & 16)
Mind Trick +6 Area (+6 Affliction, DC 16)
Initiative +13

Defenses:
Dodge +14 (DC 24), Parry +15 (DC 25), Toughness +4 (+6 D.Roll), Fortitude +6, Will +12

Complications:
Responsibility (The Jedi Order)- Jedi are under numerous rules (never falling in love, stuff like that), and their mission is to keep peace and order throughout the galaxy.
Relationship (Qui-Gon Jinn)- Obi-Wan's mentor was a wise, brave man, and Obi-Wan tries to uphold his legacy, especially through Anakin.
Relationship (Anakin Skywalker)- Obi-Wan has trained young Anakin since he was a boy, though he finds Anakin's energy and risk-taking to be troublesome and annoying. However, he is devoted to the young man, believing in Qui-Gon's theory that Anakin is "The Chosen One" to bring balance to The Force.
Relationship (Padme Amidala, Jar Jar Binks, Others)- Obi-Wan has made many allies in the war against the Separatist forces.
Relationship (Master Yoda, Mace Windu)- Obi-Wan defers to the wisdom of these most-elite of Jedi.
Secret (Many)- Obi-Wan becomes a secret-keeper following the rise of the Empire- he disappears onto Tatooine to oversee Luke Skywalker (Anakin's son), taking the name "Ben", and watching what happens to Darth Vader and the galaxy he'd once sworn to protect. He hides his identity as one of the sole remaining Jedi Knights, and keeps the truth of Luke's father from the boy. "True from a certain point of view" is really just a fancy word for "totally lying".
Responsibility (The Dark Side)- The Dark Side is dangerously-close for all Jedi. Using the "Channel the Dark Side Powers", using Dark Side-like powers (like strangling someone with The Force, or crushing them internally), killing defeated foes or otherwise killing needlessly, and even using All-Out or Power Attack too often can lead the Jedi down a dark path. The Dark Side is "quicker, EASIER- more seductive," and the temporary boost of power can easily tempt one. Excessive use of the Dark Side will twist one's spirit, and mangle their body.
Weakness (Inverse Law of Ninjitsu)- Jedi Knights become magically shittier the more of them are involved with one conflict. Two Jedi frequently lose against a single opponent, leaving the survivor to defeat the enemy. If there are dozens of Jedi around you, you're pretty f*cked. Maybe they just can't use their Lightsabers to full-effectiveness with allies close by.

Total: Abilities: 72 / Skills: 62--31 / Advantages: 28 / Powers: 51 / Defenses: 23 (205)

Obi-Wan- The Ultimate Mentor:
-Obi-Wan has gone on to become one of the most-legendary "Mentor Figure" characters of all- he's got the role pegged, right down to being old, robed, and dead. He was portrayed by classically-trained actor Alec Guinness, who allegedly begged to be killed in the first one because he hated the material so much, and went on to decry the movie in his later years. But he lent the first film the gravitas it needed- a serious note that kept the thing grounded when it could have come off as ridiculously-silly. And his teachings continued on, as he remained a Disembodied Voice in Empire and ROTJ, sometimes showing up all blue and glow-y. This continued the grand, mysterious nature of The Force. It's only too bad that further chapters of the saga, and the Prequels, have rendered a lot of his dialogue in the first film to be total hogwash- basically he suffers from Lucas introducing Retcon after Retcon, saying "What I said was TRUE from a certain point of view" to get away with uttering misdirections.

-Obi-Wan's backstory became a big part of the saga, as Expanded Universe material combined with Lucas's notes to show the tales of him training a young Anakin Skywalker, watching his charge turn to The Dark Side, and eventually mutilating Darth Vader in a battle inside a volcano. He's a central figure in The Prequels, first being a young Padawan under the tutelage of Qui-Gon Jinn. He sees his own mentor slain by a Sith Lord (ooh, callback... or foreshadowing. Sort of), and takes it upon himself to train Anakin Skywalker, the boy Qui-Gon discovered on Tatooine. By the second Prequel, he's grown the beard his character would be known for, acting as the "boring unfun mentor guy" to the hot-headed, arrogant Anakin. Here, he's a bit more stiff and wooden, something Ewan McGregor & Liam Neeson have apologized for, blaming it partially on all the Green-Screens and CGI crap (one of the big flaws of the Prequels, really- the actors were so often running around in green rooms that things lose a bit of credibility and "in the now" for them). Plus he's given some REALLY bad dialogue, though not as bad as what Anakin & Padme had to spew in the end.

-Obi-Wan is curiously absent from the Sequel Trilogy, is his original actor was dead, and I guess they didn't wanna get McGregor back to do a "Force Ghost" thing- instead, it's Luke & Yoda playing the blue ghosts. He was in my favorite Star Wars fight ever, though, cutting down Darth Maul for good in Star Wars: Rebels, using a more realistic style against the Force Spinjitsu Maul always did.

Obi-Wan's Skills & Powers:
-Obi-Wan is a great swordfighter, but spends a lot of time in the movies being trounced by a single Sith Lord, despite fighting as part of a duo- Darth Maul & Count Dooku both handle the heroes quite effectively- Obi-Wan loses in both fights against Dooku (though he's Sneak Attacked while fighting Droids in the second), and can only defeat Darth Maul as a Padawan after watching his own teacher being cut down, and largely by a lot of luck. However, he's ALSO elite enough to easily-kill General Grievous (who had been badly-injured and was coughing the whole film), and he's able to cripple full-on Dark Lord Anakin Skywalker in the final moments of Revenge of the Sith, so it's not like he sucks or anything. I nearly went with PL 10, but I think he matches up with the Fully-Realized Luke Skywalker in the end of Return of the Jedi- both men are able to defeat Anakin Skywalker, and are classic well-rounded heroes who can stomp any of the sub-tier villains. His style is fairly well-rounded, but he lacks some of Luke's more-dramatic abilities- his defensive style lacks the "oomph" of Takedown, Power Attack and other bits, nor is he that good of a team fighter (EVERY TIME he's in a team battle, either both Jedi lose, or one loses and the other wins solo).

-Obi-Wan is a bit more well-rounded than Luke is Skill-wise though, as he was turned into a major Military Leader during the Separatist & Clone Wars, often sent on solo missions. He never taps into the Dark Side, unlike the Skywalkers- his mental control is far superior to either, though he lacks their might in The Force. His Parry is better, too.

-This build reflects Obi-Wan Kenobi at the peak of his power- in Episode I, he's barely a PL 8 Padawan, capable but not elite. His win against Darth Maul is more luck and Hero Point playing (he JUST WATCHED Qui-Gon die). The Separatist & Clone Wars turned him into an elite hero (often going on solo missions of great importance). But the Original Trilogy, he's an old man (the twenty-ish years since Revenge of the Sith having apparently aged him a LOT), much slower on the draw. He's probably only PL 9 by that point, though since he willingly-jobbed to Darth Vader in the end, it's unclear just how great a fighter he still is (it doesn't help that Star Wars has by far the series' clunkiest, poorest swordfighting). His whole "Disappear Into The Force" thing is really more of a Feature.
O always thought his success was due to him being able to stay focused, even when his Mentor was killed and his friend fell to the dark side.
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