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The Stoppable Wasp

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THE WASP III (Nadia Van Dyne)
Created By:
Mark Waid & Alan Davis
First Appearance: Free Comic Book Day 2016- Civil War II (July 2016)
Role: Legacy Heroine, Oddly-Placed Hero, Would-Be Teen Star
Group Affiliations: The Avengers, The Champions
Avengers Grade: D-Level
PL 10 (178)
STRENGTH
1/3/9 STAMINA 2/10 AGILITY 4
FIGHTING 8 DEXTERITY 2
INTELLIGENCE 4 AWARENESS 2 PRESENCE 2

Skills:
Aerobatics 8 (+12)
Close Combat (Unarmed) 2 (+10)
Deception 6 (+8)
Expertise (Espionage) 4 (+8)
Expertise (Science) 4 (+8)
Insight 3 (+5)
Investigation 4 (+6)
Perception 5 (+7)
Persuasion 2 (+4)
Ranged Combat (Wasp Stings) 2 (+10)
Stealth 0 (+4, +20 Shrinking)
Technology 4 (+8)

Advantages:
Accurate Attack, Beginner's Luck, Evasion 2, Improved Aim, Improved Critical (Unarmed), Improved Defense, Improved Initiative, Ranged Attack 6

Powers:
"Pym Particles"

"Small Size" (57) -- [58]
  • AE: "Large Size" (16)
"Small Size"
Shrinking 16 (+8 Dodge/Parry, +16 Stealth, -8 Intimidation) (Extras: Normal Strength) [48]
"Higher Density" Enhanced Strength 2 (Flaws: Limited to Small Size) [2]
"Tiny Sized Fighting" Enhanced Advantages 2: Close Attack 2 (Flaws: Limited to Smaller Sizes) [2]
"Wasp Wings" Flight 5 (60 mph) (Flaws: Winged) [5]

Growth 8 (Str & Sta +8, +8 Mass, +4 Intimidation, -4 Dodge/Parry, +2 Speed) -- (24 feet) (16)

"Wasp Stings" Blast 8 (Feats: Split) [17]

Offense:
Unarmed +10 (+1 Damage, DC 16)
Small Size +12 (+3 Damage, DC 18)
Large Size +10 (+9 Damage, DC 24)
Wasp Stings +12 (+8 Ranged Damage, DC 23)
Initiative +8

Defenses:
Dodge +10 (DC 20), Parry +10 (DC 20), Toughness +2, Fortitude +5, Will +6
"Small Size" Dodge +18 (DC 28), Parry +18 (DC 28), Toughness +2, Fortitude +6, Will +7
"Large Size" Dodge +6 (DC 16), Parry +6 (DC 16), Toughness +10, Fortitude +13, Will +7

Complications:
Relationship (Janet Van Dyne)- Nadia looks up to Jan, who was the first person to believe in her. She took Janet's last name over her birth father's or mother's.
Disabled (Bipolar Disorder)
Vulnerable (Small Size)- Despite his added defenses at small size, Nadia is highly-vulnerable to such comparatively-large targets. The smaller she gets, the more vulnerable she is- she treats all attacks from human-sized targest as Area Attacks if she is Shrinking 12 or smaller.

Total: Abilities: 52 / Skills: 44--22 / Advantages: 14 / Powers: 75 / Defenses: 15 (178)

-Among the more random new characters of the past ten years has been the third Wasp, introduced while Hank Pym was dead, and eventually kind of supposed to being the Hope Van Dyne shown in the movie Ant-Man and Ant-Man and the Wasp. Her backstory is weird, too- she's the long-lost daughter of Hank and his first wife, the deceased Maria Trovaya, who was abducted by foreign agents years ago. Nadia was raised in the "Red Room" (part of Black Widow's backstory now that the movies have featured it), where the Russians train their agents, but she escaped after gaining some Pym Particles. She finds out that Hank has since died, but meets with Janet Van Dyne and the two become friends, with Nadia gaining the Wasp identity even while Jan was using it, because why NOT be confusing and weird? And thus begins the strange push of the character...

-See, Nadia immediately joined the Avengers, during Mark Waid's "The Elder Replacement Avengers and their Teen Trainees" run. You know, when we had swaps for Cap & Thor, but still had the old Iron Man, and Spider-Man was on the squad, alongside Ms. Marvel, the new Nova, and a couple of others. The run that I kept thinking about dropping (THE KANG ARC), but then there'd be a really good issue here or there (like Vision & Hercules going on about the nature and costs of immortality). It was hit-or-miss. But among the more annoying properties of the comic was how Mark handled Nadia, who presumably he was interested in pushing (she got a focus issue where she fought against the odds and saved the day by herself- that kind of thing): he made her inexplicably decide to hate on Spider-Man. And now, bad luck is kind of a Peter Parker trait, and it makes sense that he'd rub people the wrong way, or end up with a bad reputation for things beyond his control- he's Spider-Man; it happens. But in this case, it was so one-sided, with Nadia frequently going on anti-Spidey rants out of nowhere, and with very little provocation... well let's just say that it reminded me of the most abysmal of comic book characters- it reeked of DANNY CHASE.

-Yes, the Teen Titans kid who was beloved by Marv Wolfman, who decided to show what a "scamp" he was by having him constantly rip on Changeling (himself a jokester character who did it to hide his own inner turmoil). It came off as THAT BAD. And Waid never really had that one big moment where she learned what a great hero Spider-Man was either, or someone pulling her aside and pointing out the good Spidey does- it was just her ripping on him again and again.

-This was also around when Marvel's "Let's create more books starring females & minorities" push hit a major stride, and so The Unstoppable Wasp was created. And stopped after eight issues. But don't worry- fan outcry led to it being restarted! And then stopped at ten issues. See, it had some of the worst sales in the entire industry, but had that "Vocal Spider-Girl Fanbase" of loyalists who'd protest and cry to save the book (frequently goaded by the creators), but... worst sales ever. I haven't read so much as an issue, but all the "BOO MARVEL IS SJW-LED TRASH!" types seem to hate it. In the book, Nadia is frustrated over the lack of women in science-based industries (the "S.T.E.M." debate), and figures that it's the job of the superhero to... fight that, I guess? And so she gathers a group of Mandatory New Book Supporting Cast (token ugly character! At least one black! Probably someone Muslim!") that populates every new book these days, and she starts the program "G.I.R.L."- Girl In action Research Labs, because you need to prove you're ready for a science-based career based off of your own brilliance by proving you don't understand acronyms. This... okay, online bios are pretty weak- apparently none of the seven people who bought her book edit Wikipedia or ComicVine, whatever. I have no idea what she's up to now. But she was on the Champions for a bit!

-Nadia is more or less like Janet, with Shrinking, some degree of Growth (that's just assumed for most Size-Shifters at Marvel now), and some Krav Maga skills based around her "Red Room" training. And I guess some science? Even though she herself is not a genius.
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Jabroniville wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2020 10:12 pm
Yeah, it was a peculiar thing to make THAT this comic's big personal issue. And her being part of the "Red Room" never seems to come up in anything I've read, aside from someone casually bringing it up.
as one of those seven or eight, I can weigh in.

The Red Room actually plays substantially into both volumes of UW, with the "science Class" Matron trying to get Nadia back under her control, one way or another, such as in volume 2, by faking that Maria Pym was still alive (a scheme meant to capture Nadia, or at the least kill whichever of her superheroic guardians decided to investigate the obvious trap in her stead)

Nadia herself is a low-end supergenius, for the record. the Science Class was basically the Red Room's mad science division. your typical RR Girls were trained to be the next Black Widow, Nadia and her classmates trained to be the next Ivan Vanko. And due to the nature of mad science, this meant that the girls were less indoctrinated, allowing Nadia to develop her "Unsinkable Kimmy Schmidt" grade optimism (which takes huge hits upon learning about Hank's lowest ebb and her own neurodivergence). Basically, Nadia's so damn happy all the time BECAUSE she was able to escape what the Red Room put her through. but push her buttons enough with things like threatening Jarvis or her best friend, and she quickly starts thinking of all the Romanov-like ways that she can HURT you
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Re: Jab’s Builds! (Scott Lang! Eric O’Grady! Ultron! The Vision!)

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Was Laniya Petrovna (Darkstar) trained in the Red Room?
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So... Virginia Vision. Vin Vision. Viv Vision. This leads me to the conclusion that Vision's first name must the The.
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Goldar wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2020 11:52 pm Was Laniya Petrovna (Darkstar) trained in the Red Room?
That's never been shown, as the Red Room is a very recent thing, and Darkstar is a much older character (who also hasn't been featured in any books in years), but she was a Soviet operative for a long time, having debuted in The Champions to bring the Black Widow back to the USSR.
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Jocasta

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JOCASTA
Created By:
Jim Shooter & George Perez
First Appearance: The Avengers #162 (Aug. 1977)
Role: Learning to Be Human Girl, Sexy Robot, Sacrificial Lamb
Group Affiliations: The Avengers, The Mavericks (Initiative Team)
Avengers Grade: D-Level
PL 9 (148)
STRENGTH
9 STAMINA -- AGILITY 2
FIGHTING 5 DEXTERITY 3
INTELLIGENCE 4 AWARENESS 0 PRESENCE 0

Skills:
Close Combat (Unarmed) 2 (+7)
Expertise (Science) 3 (+7)
Intimidation 2 (+2)
Perception 7 (+7)
Technology 4 (+8)
Vehicles 2 (+5)

Advantages:
Equipment (Holographic Inducer), Interpose, Ranged Attack 5, Set-Up

Powers:
"Robotic Body"
Immunity 30 (Fortitude Effects) [30]
Leaping 2 (30 feet) [2]
"Titanium Construction" Protection 9 (Extras: Impervious) [18]
"Robotic Senses" Senses 4 (Enhanced & Infravision, Acute Scent, Extended Hearing, Detect EM Particles- Ranged & Tracking) [7]
Quickness 6 (Flaws: Limited to Mental Tasks) [3]
"Image Inducer" Morph 1 [5]

"Electro-Magnetic Energy Beams" Blast 9 (18) -- [20]
  • AE: "Datalink" Communication (Computers, Radio) 2 (12)
    AE: Force Field 3 (Extras: Impervious 4) (7)
Offense:
Unarmed +7 (+9 Damage, DC 24)
Eye Beams +8 (+9 Ranged Damage, DC 24)
Initiative +2

Defenses:
Dodge +6 (DC 16), Parry +6 (DC 16), Toughness +9 (+12 Force Field, +8 Impervious with Field), Fortitude --, Will +6

Complications:
Vulnerable (Electrical & Magnetic Attacks)- As a machine, Jocasta is much more vulnerable to these two types of attacks than normal beings.
Relationship (Machine Man, Hank Pym)- She REALLY likes sucky male characters.
Enemy (Ultron)- She was created to be his robotic bride, but finds herself morally compelled to betray him at every opportunity.

Total: Abilities: 36 / Skills: 20--10 / Advantages: 8 / Powers: 83 / Defenses: 11 (148)

-Jocasta's a short-lived, mostly forgotten Avenger, joining briefly after (and during) several new Ultron phases, as he built her to be his bride, a la Frankenstein. The name comes from the mother in Oedipus- a clever moment of self-awareness from daddy-obsessed Ultron. To give her life, he based her mind off of the Wasp, and brainwashed Hank Pym into transferring her lifeforce into the robot. Of course, she pulled a Vision and betrayed her master, refusing to allow the Wasp to die so she might live. Her lifeless husk was soon reanimated by Ultron and controlled into loving him, but she hated his evil nature and soon betrayed him once more. Collected by the Collector, she was eventually freed and finally joined the Avengers. This is likely why she's mostly forgotten- she's got the same origin as a guy ON THE SAME TEAM as her, not to mention she's boring-looking, essentially being a big robotic Princess Leia.

-Jocasta was only on the Avengers for a short time- she had a crush on the Vision (who was happily married to the Scarlet Witch at the time), and was instrumental in defeating the Taskmaster in his debut, as she was the only Avenger present whom he'd never seen fight before, leaving him unable to have copied her stuff. Despite this, and a few adventures with the team, she was always a "prospective member" and never granted official status, leaving her feeling unaccepted by the team- she voluntarily quit following a membership reorganization, not realizing they intended to be a substitute member. She would sacrifice herself on THREE SEPARATE OCCASIONS- first to defeat Ultron again (developing feelings for Machine Man during the course of the adventure), the next against The High Evolutionary (who'd rebuilt her, but she quickly summoned the Avengers and blew up to destroy his command ship), and finally a third time against Madame Masque, who wanted to use her head to power a weapons platform. Naturally, these are pretty easy deaths to undo.

-She aided Iron Man as a Sentient A.I. within his armor for a while, being a person he could talk to about stuff- after being thought-dead again (this time against the Sentient Armor), she returned to aid The Avengers yet another time, inexplicably having her silver metal body again. She appeared in Marvel Zombies (meeting with former love Machine Man again), then joined a 50 States Initiative team (the Mavericks of New Mexico). She went on to the Mighty Avengers line-up (what IS it with modern Avengers and changing their lineups every three seconds?), but it didn't really do much for her, aside from being yet another super-chick to attach herself to the Pymsuck. When Jarvis spotted her kissing Pym, he uncharacteristically inquired as to whether or not that was like kissing her own grandfather, to which she replied that it was like "Kissing God" (yeah, Pym wasn't a Mary Sue in that book AT ALL...). She had a lot of duplicate bodies in their "Ininite Avengers Mansion", but most were taken over by Ultron- he blackmailed her into robo-marrying him, but she tricked him into going to an uninhabited world, then kept broadcasting her consciousness into one of her other duplicates, thus being in two places at once. The character ends her run as part of the Avengers Academy book as a staff member, but runs off with Jeremy Briggs, who attempts to depower all the world's super-beings- when she discovers this, she turns on him along with many other Academy members, and rejoins the school later. A golden, damaged version of Jocasta is later seen, and shorts out- no idea who that is.

-All in all, Jocasta ended up rather boring, with a simplistic look, a gimmick already kinda done by the Vision, and no real "place" in the world. Going between Machine Man and Hank Pym didn't really help, and supporting character runs in Iron Man, The Mighty Avengers and Avengers Academy seemed to do little other than keep her name out there. There's just not enough unique here.

-Jocasta's your average tough, strong robot, with nothing much unique going on. Her Force Field gives her a ton of Toughness when combined with her body's make-up, so she's pretty easy to hit, putting her safely within PL 9 caps. But she's only PL 8.5 offensively, and isn't great shakes in combat either way.
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Nadia is one of those weird characters for me, because personality wise she's kind of a breath of fresh air at Marvel, being a genuinely sweet and nice girl, a little awkward but mostly adorably enthusiastic about being able to enjoy life for a change, wanting to experience it and having a sincere desire to do good. However much Marvel likes to push the idea of "flawed heroes", there's always room for another Captain America, Colossus and similar "good for the sake of good" heroes. Of the recent young girl geniuses that Marvel has introduced, she Nadia lacks the annoying, condescending attitude of Moon Girl or the selfish, arrogance of Riri Williams.

It's just a shame that pretty much everything else about her is some combination of awful or stupid. Making her into another Wasp while Jan is still around is a bad idea, it devalues one of Marvel's original butt kicking female heroines who has proven herself as Avengers leader material. Her call to heroism is essentially that she feels the ratio of male-to-female scientists could only be explained by sexism and she's going to correct that with G.I.R.L., or Genius In Action Research Labs . . . which should either be G.I.A.R.L. or Genius Inaction Research Labs . . . with the latter being a bit more accurate since they rarely did anything. The idea of making her Hank Pym's long lost daughter, raised by the Red Room, her weird hatred of Spider-Man, she either had a lot of built in baggage or was promptly given some new baggage by other writers.

The whole "get more girls into STEM", I feel this comic sums it up nicely:

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I believe what we should be promoting is less Equality of Outcome and more Equality of Opportunity. Everyone that wants to get into a certain field should have every opportunity to do so. But there is no singular correct break down of gender, race or sexuality in any job field, and people should be allowed to pursue what they want.

Overall, Nadia's actual character is refreshing, but everything else about her is just a mess. They might have been better served to combine Riri and Nadia together into a single character, maybe Riri's backstory, race and armor, but Nadia's personality, so you'd avoid some of Riri's dumber moments, like committing actual theft of university property when she had a scholarship, or demanding to be oppressed.
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Re: Jab’s Builds! (Ultron! The Vision! Nadia Van Dyne! Jocasta!)

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Recent issues of Iron Man have had a lot of exploration of AI and robot rights with a lot of focus on Jocasta and Machine man. It's not exactly deep if you've ever read any decent science fiction but Machine Man as a comicly militant robo-activist has been kinda funny
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Re: Jab’s Builds! (Ultron! The Vision! Nadia Van Dyne! Jocasta!)

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Seriously? That comic "sums it up nicely"? Would a similar comic "explaining" the rising disparity in male/female education levels be OK, showing that its really all just young guys choosing to party or play sports while girls are dutifully studying? The real reasons are more complex and nuanced in both cases-bias and social/economic expectations DO play a part. For example, there are nations where physicians are majority-female, and have been for decades, while in the U.S. and UK they have traditionally been a (small) minority of the field. I absolutely agree that "demographically-proportionate" representation in every field is a ridiculous goal. Women and men are going to have different priorities and drives, not in least because individual human beings have different priorities and drives. Now, I think we as a whole are doing far better at honoring the ideal of Equality of Opportunity, but in some ways its still a work in progress, though far, far superior to the days when there were blatant policies which favored majority groups or those who were already entrenched in various professions.

All that being said-yeah, Nadia is another new character with potential who got hijacked into too often being nothing BUT a mouthpiece for the writer's social views. And yeah, a lot of the backlash against female and minority characters came because editorial and creative shilled them HARD, often at other, established heroes' expense, or by writing others WAY our of their normal personalities (Titania knocking out Crusher Creel because she "respected" the Jane Foster Thor...as a woman?! Huh?); this has often happened before, when writers fell in love with their own creations-Jab's example of Danny Chase comes to mind (tragically)-with the most egregious example in recent years being the Sentry (does ANYONE at Marvel get that fans HATE this jerk, whether he's a hero, villain, antihero, angel of death, whatever?). But Marvel went all-in, all at once with Nadia, Ironheart, and all the others, and kept re-booting books that didn't sell, further feeding the cycle.

OK, mini-rant on both sides of the issue over. All my best.
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Re: Jab’s Builds! (Ultron! The Vision! Nadia Van Dyne! Jocasta!)

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greycrusader wrote: Thu Mar 19, 2020 3:24 pm Seriously? That comic "sums it up nicely"? Would a similar comic "explaining" the rising disparity in male/female education levels be OK, showing that its really all just young guys choosing to party or play sports while girls are dutifully studying? The real reasons are more complex and nuanced in both cases-bias and social/economic expectations DO play a part. For example, there are nations where physicians are majority-female, and have been for decades, while in the U.S. and UK they have traditionally been a (small) minority of the field.
Apologies, as no offense was intended with that comic. It was meant mostly as a Jab at how a lot of folks advocate FOR more Women in STEM are rarely women who are IN STEM themselves. Rather than be the change they want by going into said field, they seem to want more women to be in a particular field regardless of skill, qualification or interest based on an arbitrary idea of what a correct percentage is. I do agree that there are factors at play, both social and economical as defined by the location of the individual, that can contribute to what roles people are drawn to. It isn't as simple as that comic or Unstoppable Wasp tries to make it out, which is ultimately the joke.
I absolutely agree that "demographically-proportionate" representation in every field is a ridiculous goal. Women and men are going to have different priorities and drives, not in least because individual human beings have different priorities and drives. Now, I think we as a whole are doing far better at honoring the ideal of Equality of Opportunity, but in some ways its still a work in progress, though far, far superior to the days when there were blatant policies which favored majority groups or those who were already entrenched in various professions.
I agree wholeheartedly. In the West at least, great strides have been made to push for Equality of Opportunity, which is the only real equality that matters. It definitely isn't perfect and we need to do more work, but we're further along than we were even 50 years ago, and much further along than other places in the world. While that's no excuse for some people to not try and be better, it's also no excuse for other people to paint the picture as any disparity in gender as being due to sexism. In America at least, if someone discriminates against you due to gender, sexuality or the like, that's ILLEGAL and asking for a lawsuit.

We should strive for a society where anyone can try to get into a field and let their hard work, natural talent and competence decide whether they're appropriate for that field or not. There should no favoritism shown based on things like gender, race, sexuality or politics, and definitely no minimum quotas for such things.

Anyway, sorry again if that comic was insensitive or offensive, as I rarely try to be intentionally antagonistic.
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JOCASTA
Created By:
Jim Shooter & George Perez
First Appearance: The Avengers #162 (Aug. 1977)
Role: Learning to Be Human Girl, Sexy Robot, Sacrificial Lamb
Group Affiliations: The Avengers, The Mavericks (Initiative Team)
Avengers Grade: D-Level
PL 9 (148)
STRENGTH
9 STAMINA -- AGILITY 2
FIGHTING 5 DEXTERITY 3
INTELLIGENCE 4 AWARENESS 0 PRESENCE 0

Skills:
Close Combat (Unarmed) 2 (+7)
Expertise (Science) 3 (+7)
Intimidation 2 (+2)
Perception 7 (+7)
Technology 4 (+8)
Vehicles 2 (+5)

Advantages:
Equipment (Holographic Inducer), Interpose, Ranged Attack 5, Set-Up

Powers:
"Robotic Body"
Immunity 30 (Fortitude Effects) [30]
Leaping 2 (30 feet) [2]
"Titanium Construction" Protection 9 (Extras: Impervious) [18]
"Robotic Senses" Senses 4 (Enhanced & Infravision, Acute Scent, Extended Hearing, Detect EM Particles- Ranged & Tracking) [7]
Quickness 6 (Flaws: Limited to Mental Tasks) [3]
"Image Inducer" Morph 1 [5]

"Electro-Magnetic Energy Beams" Blast 9 (18) -- [20]
  • AE: "Datalink" Communication (Computers, Radio) 2 (12)
    AE: Force Field 3 (Extras: Impervious 4) (7)
Offense:
Unarmed +7 (+9 Damage, DC 24)
Eye Beams +8 (+9 Ranged Damage, DC 24)
Initiative +2

Defenses:
Dodge +6 (DC 16), Parry +6 (DC 16), Toughness +9 (+12 Force Field, +8 Impervious with Field), Fortitude --, Will +6

Complications:
Vulnerable (Electrical & Magnetic Attacks)- As a machine, Jocasta is much more vulnerable to these two types of attacks than normal beings.
Relationship (Machine Man, Hank Pym)- She REALLY likes sucky male characters.
Enemy (Ultron)- She was created to be his robotic bride, but finds herself morally compelled to betray him at every opportunity.

Total: Abilities: 36 / Skills: 20--10 / Advantages: 8 / Powers: 83 / Defenses: 11 (148)

-Jocasta's a short-lived, mostly forgotten Avenger, joining briefly after (and during) several new Ultron phases, as he built her to be his bride, a la Frankenstein. The name comes from the mother in Oedipus- a clever moment of self-awareness from daddy-obsessed Ultron. To give her life, he based her mind off of the Wasp, and brainwashed Hank Pym into transferring her lifeforce into the robot. Of course, she pulled a Vision and betrayed her master, refusing to allow the Wasp to die so she might live. Her lifeless husk was soon reanimated by Ultron and controlled into loving him, but she hated his evil nature and soon betrayed him once more. Collected by the Collector, she was eventually freed and finally joined the Avengers. This is likely why she's mostly forgotten- she's got the same origin as a guy ON THE SAME TEAM as her, not to mention she's boring-looking, essentially being a big robotic Princess Leia.

-Jocasta was only on the Avengers for a short time- she had a crush on the Vision (who was happily married to the Scarlet Witch at the time), and was instrumental in defeating the Taskmaster in his debut, as she was the only Avenger present whom he'd never seen fight before, leaving him unable to have copied her stuff. Despite this, and a few adventures with the team, she was always a "prospective member" and never granted official status, leaving her feeling unaccepted by the team- she voluntarily quit following a membership reorganization, not realizing they intended to be a substitute member. She would sacrifice herself on THREE SEPARATE OCCASIONS- first to defeat Ultron again (developing feelings for Machine Man during the course of the adventure), the next against The High Evolutionary (who'd rebuilt her, but she quickly summoned the Avengers and blew up to destroy his command ship), and finally a third time against Madame Masque, who wanted to use her head to power a weapons platform. Naturally, these are pretty easy deaths to undo.

-She aided Iron Man as a Sentient A.I. within his armor for a while, being a person he could talk to about stuff- after being thought-dead again (this time against the Sentient Armor), she returned to aid The Avengers yet another time, inexplicably having her silver metal body again. She appeared in Marvel Zombies (meeting with former love Machine Man again), then joined a 50 States Initiative team (the Mavericks of New Mexico). She went on to the Mighty Avengers line-up (what IS it with modern Avengers and changing their lineups every three seconds?), but it didn't really do much for her, aside from being yet another super-chick to attach herself to the Pymsuck. When Jarvis spotted her kissing Pym, he uncharacteristically inquired as to whether or not that was like kissing her own grandfather, to which she replied that it was like "Kissing God" (yeah, Pym wasn't a Mary Sue in that book AT ALL...). She had a lot of duplicate bodies in their "Ininite Avengers Mansion", but most were taken over by Ultron- he blackmailed her into robo-marrying him, but she tricked him into going to an uninhabited world, then kept broadcasting her consciousness into one of her other duplicates, thus being in two places at once. The character ends her run as part of the Avengers Academy book as a staff member, but runs off with Jeremy Briggs, who attempts to depower all the world's super-beings- when she discovers this, she turns on him along with many other Academy members, and rejoins the school later. A golden, damaged version of Jocasta is later seen, and shorts out- no idea who that is.

-All in all, Jocasta ended up rather boring, with a simplistic look, a gimmick already kinda done by the Vision, and no real "place" in the world. Going between Machine Man and Hank Pym didn't really help, and supporting character runs in Iron Man, The Mighty Avengers and Avengers Academy seemed to do little other than keep her name out there. There's just not enough unique here.

-Jocasta's your average tough, strong robot, with nothing much unique going on. Her Force Field gives her a ton of Toughness when combined with her body's make-up, so she's pretty easy to hit, putting her safely within PL 9 caps. But she's only PL 8.5 offensively, and isn't great shakes in combat either way.
I remember Jocasta and I liked her from her 1st appearance!

I wanted her to betray Ultron and become part of the team, as I felt there was room for both her and Vision. That came true but only for a brief period.

Jocasta also had a Forcefield, if I remember correctly, that was fairly strong.
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0_0 Now THEM’S some child-birthin’ hips!

THE SCARLET WITCH (Wanda Maximoff)
Created By:
Stan Lee & Jack Kirby
First Appearance: The X-Men #4 (March 1964)
Role: Magic User, Miss Fanservice, The Mysterious Woman
Group Affiliations: The Brotherhood of Evil Mutants, The Avengers, The Lady Liberators, Force Works
Avengers Grade: B-Level
PL 11 (160)
STRENGTH
1 STAMINA 2 AGILITY 3
FIGHTING 5 DEXTERITY 0
INTELLIGENCE 2 AWARENESS 3 PRESENCE 4

Skills:
Acrobatics 3 (+6)
Close Combat (Unarmed) 2 (+7)
Deception 2 (+6, +8 Attractive)
Expertise (Magic) 8 (+10)
Insight 3 (+6)
Perception 4 (+7)
Persuasion 3 (+7, +9 Attractive)
Ranged Attack (Hexes) 3 (+9)
Vehicles 2 (+2)

Advantages:
Attractive, Defensive Roll 2, Ranged Attack 6, Ritualist, Set-Up, Teamwork

Powers:
"Mutant Powers: Hex Spheres"
Luck 2 [2]

Probability Control 11 (Extras: Jinx, Ranged) (66) -- [72]
  • AE: "Improbable Events" Blast 11 (Feats: Penetrating 6) (Extras: Area- 30ft. Burst) (39)
  • AE: Deflect 12 (12)
  • AE: "Spontaneous Combustion" Blast 9 (Extras: Perception Range, Secondary Effect) (36)
  • AE: Nullify Powers 12 (Extras: Broad +2- All Powers) (36)
  • AE: "Rapid Decay" Weaken Toughness 12 (Extras: Ranged, Affects Objects +0) (24)
  • AE: "Bad Events" Affliction 13 (Will; Impaired Attack & Dazed/Disabled Attack & Prone) (Extras: Ranged, Extra Condition) (Flaws: Limited Degree) (26)
  • AE: "Transmute Elements" Transform 7 (Pure Elements from One to Another) (28)
Offense:
Unarmed +7 (+1 Damage, DC 16)
Probability Control +9 (+11 Dice-Altering, DC 21)
Improbable Events +11 Area (+11 Ranged Damage, DC 26)
Nullify +9 (+12 Nullify, DC 22)
Rapid Decay +9 (+12 Ranged Weaken, DC 22)
Bad Events +9 (+13 Ranged Affliction, DC 23)
Initiative +4

Defenses:
Dodge +9 (DC 19), Parry +10 (DC 20), Toughness +2 (+4 D.Roll), Fortitude +5, Will +8

Complications:
Power Loss (Hexes)- Wanda requires the use of her hands for her powers, and will become helpless if she is restrained.
Relationship (The Vision, Wonder Man)- At various times, Wanda has been in love with either man. She was married to Vizh for years, but left him when he lost his humanity.
Relationship (Quicksilver)- Pietro is an over-protective brother, but Wanda still dotes on him.
Side-Effects (Hexes)- If Wanda rolls a natural 1-2, she will be inflicted with her own bad luck.
Responsibility (Vast Power)- Wanda is naturally quite powerful, but she has the potential as a nexus being to warp reality on a vast level. This is often Uncontrolled, and gives her a horrible reputation as a wild card.
Reputation (Mutant Killer)- Wanda nearly made mutants extinct in one fell swoop (but thankfully left all the POPULAR characters, in a lucky bit of ass-pulling), and some have a hard time forgiving her for it.

Total: Abilities: 40 / Skills: 30--15 / Advantages: 12 / Powers: 74 / Defenses: 19 (160)

The Scarlet Witch- Poisoned Character?:
-The Scarlet Witch been all over the place as a character. First, she was a fairly peaceful, non-evil villain under Magneto's rule in the Silver Age Brotherhood of Evil Mutants. Then, she did a face turn and became an Avenger in a wildly unpredictable turn (in the good way) later on in the '60s. This lead to a relationship with The Vision (which ran for SEVERAL years in the Avengers title, since they were among the few Avengers not to have their own book), a marriage, a pretty boring Limited Series , children, then it all came crashing down as John Byrne made her go crazy in his Avengers West Coast run. She was cured in the end, but that'd lead to worse things later. She & Vision divorced when he turned into Mr. Data, she brought Wonder Man back from the dead and hooked up with HIM, and then she went nuts one big, final time, destroying the Marvel Universe in the process. OK, really, she just started some REALLY BAD crossovers, but that's an even more heinous crime, isn't it? Time will tell what'll happen to her character, as writers are struggling a bit to give some meaning to the woman whose main character trait now is having Unstoppable Power when she goes crazy. It's gotten to the point where I think the comics character might be poisoned, just as the movie version becomes more popular than ever.

-Me, I just blame it on the impossibility of writing mystic characters in modern times. And the overwhelming urge many writers get to have her beat the villain in the end using some kind of "Deus ex machina" Magic power thingie, instead of real tactics. At least the great Ultron Unlimited story arc had her only pull that off to beat ALKHEMA, and they needed a different trick to take out the big dog.

The Scarlet Witch- "The Stormer" of the Marvel Universe:
-Wanda debuted as a classic Stan Lee character- a semi-hysterical female with odd powers that weren't very punch-y or blast-y. She was also your classic "villain who doesn't really wanna be here", which is something comics very rarely does- the idea seems to be that she was much more innocent than her colleagues, and just led astray by Magneto's forceful personality. She was lusted after by both Toad and Mastermind, much to her disgust, and had to deal with her temperamental, aggressive brother Pietro (Quicksilver). Wanda just seemed very submissive and unwilling. Her outfit was peculiar- opera gloves and a swimsuit to make her look like the 1960s equivalent of Faptastic Fanservice (to put it like Stan might have), and... the weirdest headdress of al time. It's called a "wimple", I guess. This seemed to be her role for a short while only, as The Avengers undertook its first drastic roster shift, dumping all the recognizable heroes save Captain America, and throwing on three VILLAINS for the "Cap's Kooky Quartet" edition of the book- Wanda & Pietro were lured away from Magneto and brought onto the proper path, and Hawkeye joined them. They were only on the team for a short while before Stan moved them on, but Roy Thomas would bring Wanda back, then famously pair her up with his android creation, The Vision.

-The two would engage in a nervous, timid flirtation for a long while, as neither had the confidence to speak of their impossible bond, and would wilt if things got too obvious. The Vision felt unworthy of her (being an artificial man), Quicksilver got pissy because he considered the Vision a "toaster", and Wanda was her usual self, but finally... love prevailed. The two formed a partnership to most of the Avengers' support, and even got MARRIED in 1975! By this point, Steve Englehart was in charge of both characters, and made the most of it.

Wanda Gets an Origin Story:
-Writer Bill Mantlo, writing a Vision and the Scarlet Witch Limited Series, fashioned an origin story for them- that they were the children of Miss America and The Whizzer, Golden Age heroes, but when the heroine died in labor, their "father" rejected them and ran away. However, Englehart finally capped off something that'd been "known" to people for years, but had been unspoken- Quicksilver and the Scarlet Witch were actually both the children of MAGNETO, whose wife Magda had fled from him when she discovered his terrifying mutant powers (a later Claremont book would show just how horrific that scene was- their first daughter died and Magneto murdered the men responsible for delaying him from saving her). Pregnant, Magda had been found and cared for by the agents of the High Evolutionary, but died of exposure when she ran off, fearing Magneto finding her. A "false origin story" had been created, The twins are instead raised by Gypsies, and their mother is killed by an angry mob when their adoptive father steals to help feed them- the twins run away, where they wander for years before Magneto finds them anyhow. John Byrne and others hated that Englehart had spilled the beans (it'd been "obvious" to many fans, since Wanda looked just like Magneto's dead wife, and Pietro & Magneto both had silver hair), but really... SOMEONE wass gonna do it and make a convoluted-ass story out of it. Might as well have been Steve (though you know a character's history is going to be a mess when her origin story is convoluted in the f*cking *1970s*!).

-Wanda eventually begins tutored in magic by Fantastic Four supporting character Agatha Harkness, and gives her much greater power. A pair of The Vision and the Scarlet Witch Limited Series came about, with a 1980s one written by Englehart as well. It's... not good. REALLY, REALLY not good. I found the first issue a fine piece of work back in the day, but collecting the whole thing made it clear how awful it was. I mean, it had The Salem Seven, The Grim Reaper & Nekra as Arc Villains, and then TWO OR THREE ISSUES featuring THE TOAD as a major villain! In the very end, the loving couple accomplish an impossibility- they have children! Their twin sons Thomas & William are born, created by Wanda's hex powers making the unlikely/impossible a reality. At this point, the couple joins the West Coast Avengers, which was at that point an Englehart book.

Byrne Takes Over; Wanda Goes Nuts:
-John Byrne would succeed Englehart as WCA writer, and that'd lead to the next major "thing" associated with Wanda- the "Dark Phoenix Redux" thing. See, Byrne always resented Jim Shooter's edict that got Jean Grey killed, and so on both his later books, he'd "rewrite" the tale by having the book's most powerful female character become corrupted by power, turn evil, and then give it up to reform. The Vision himself was taken apart and turned into an emotionless robot, ending their marriage and crushing Wanda, who then fell off the deep end psychologically. Oh, and it turns out that her beloved children were actually THE CREATIONS OF MASTER PANDEMONIUM, who simply absorbed them back into his body, shattering her mind completely! Englehart HATED this, but couldn't do anything, as Byrne was let do whatever he wanted with more "minor" characters such as these. Wanda of course came back from the brink, and was more of a "filler" member of the West Coasters in later books (I have some Roy Thomas-written ones, and she's just kind of "around"). He himself would pair her off with Wonder Man, upon whose brain-patterns the Vision's mind was based!

-The '90s were forgettable for Wanda- she had her own Limited Series, a classic "slutty '90s costume", and more. She actually led the Force Works series, but that failed very quickly- Wonder Man even died in their first mission! Wanda is the only mutant character killed stopping Onslaught (it's said that her hex powers were responsible), and so she's part of Heroes Reborn and the later Return. When Kurt Busiek renovates The Avengers with George Perez, Perez puts his favorite- Wanda- back on the team and in more accurate "Roma" garb, with a lot of accoutrements and extra details, like super-curly hair (SPECIFICALLY to make it harder to draw). Though I actually found his Wanda a bit unappealing, with a highly-pronounced nose and gaunt facial features- odd, considering she's his favorite (he says, worshipping Idina Menzel all the while). Wanda resurrects Wonder Man, finally learning to bring him back full-time, and the two renew their love affair while the Vision is her platonic (but still kinda mopey) teammate, having gotten his personality back. Busiek also reveaed that Wanda's powers came from "Chaos Magic", imbued upon her by Chthon when she was born.

And Then Wanda Goes Nuts Again. THRICE!:
-This should have led to something a little better... but then BENDIS happened. Brian Michael Bendis wrote Disassembled, destroying the Avengers when Wanda discovers that her memories of having children were wiped (again). A spell is cast, and she's merged with a cosmic entity that causes her to break the Avengers apart- The Vision, Hawkeye, Scott Lang & Jack of Hearts die, and when Wanda is beaten by Dr. Strange (who reveals that her "Chaos Magic" is actually just made up), her father Magneto sails down and flies off with her unconscious body, promising to care for her. However, the NEXT story further makes her look crazy- using her powesr to create a world where everyone has their "heart's desire", she causes the House of M reality where mutants rule America, with Magneto as the top dog. When Magneto realizes that Quicksilver has caused this, he kills him- Wanda resurrects him and goes FURTHER nuts, declaring "No More Mutants", thus de-powering 90% of Earth's mutant population, including her family members. This one story is thus used as a means to get rid of all the superfluous characters created in the explosion of X-Men books over the past thirty years... by which I mean "depower 10 characters and the Endless Mutants Groups we created, but leave everyone with an actual name with powers". I think in the end only Rictor kept on being de-powered.

-Wanda is spotted by Hawkeye following this, but is amnesiac and he's like "Nah, it's fine now". A few years on, it turns out that two members of the Young Avengers, Wiccan and Speed, are actually the REINCARNATIONS of her lost twins, and so they go to Latveria, where Wanda's about to marry DOCTOR DOOM. In The Children's Quest, the team helps Wanda regain her memory, then stop her from committing suicide- in the end, she & Wiccan steal Doom's "Standard-Issue Omnipotent Power Upgrade" (when he absorbs Wanda's powers when she attempts to undo her "M-Day" de-powering of Earth's mutants).

A New Normal. But She Goes Nuts Again Once. And Is Mind Controlled. Twice:
-Wanda rejoins the Avengers following all of this, now carrying a METRIC TON of character baggage- the Vision refuses to forgive her for killing him off that one time, and all the mutant characters hate her for M-Day. Nonetheless, she & Hope Summers are central to A (vs) X, de-powering a Dark Phoenix-powered Scott Summers at the story's climax, and UNDOING M-Day, thus giving mutants everywhere their powers back. Wanda joins the Uncanny Avengers squad, meant to unify the Avengers & X-Characters back together again, but she gets up to almost nothing- Rick Remender has her killed by a mind-controlled Rogue, but it's undone. And then THEY MAKE HER CRAZY AGAIN, as the AXIS event causes her to be among the heroes whose alignment shifts to "evil". This leads to the revelation that... oh god I forgot about this... MAGNETO IS NOT HER FATHER AFTER ALL!

-This, of course, is all because of the pissing contest between Marvel/Disney and Fox, who owned the X-Men rights, and thus Magneto couldn't be her father in the movies. So when Wanda goes back to normal, she & Quicksilver go to Counter-Earth and discover that their adoptive Roma parents were related to their REAL parents, and both are just the High Evolutionary's experiments. Which... adds nothing and takes things away. The second Civil War causes her to call Pietro a "sociopath" and the siblings split, then Wanda meets her birth-mother (who gave the kids up to spare them her life as a witch), then it turns out her aunt Marya (whom she thought was her mother) was still alive, because reasons. Her mother ends up dying to save the existence of Magic from the intrusion of Chaos, then gets possessed by Chthon during Secret Empire, and is left "unhinged" by it. It turns out that mutants STILL hate her because of M-Day (so Cap's "Unity Squad" was a failure).

Wanda Overall:
-All in all, Wanda's had one of the more insane runs of any Marvel character- a backstory more convoluted than almost anyone outside of DC's Crisis-based conundrums and so riddled with random stuff and bizarrer twists that she could be an X-Men long-timer, she may have the most baggage of anyone at Marvel. I mean, the "Wanda Goes Crazy" thing has now been done FIVE TIMES, never mind all the Mind Control, and the stink of things like Decimation & Disassembled is still all over her. Meanwhile, the Avengers will be like "Oh hey, welcome back" until the next writer comes along and goes "OH HELL YOU HAVE BAGGAGE!" and suddenly the stink's back on. So much like Hank Pym, you now have writer after writer who started after a point and now only remembers the "Wanda Goes Nuts" stories, so now she's just "The girl who goes insane" to everyone. The changing origin story, of course, is completely ridiculous and looks even dumber now. And this is right when the character has more mainstream recognition than ever, owing to Elizabeth Olsen's role in the Cinematic Universe as a "weird chick" with random powers that are largely explained and thus a total Ass-Pull every time they're used. She scored some huge hits on Thanos in Avengers: Endgame to much recognition, and is now getting a weird solo TV series called WandaVision, so we'll see where she goes, and if Marvel pushes her big-time over this run.

Wanda's Powers:
-The Scarlet Witch seemed complicated at first, but really, the Probability Control power in 2e's Ultimate Power basically explicitly lays out her powers in full, even giving us the two standard Alt-Effects of it that get used fairly frequently, those being Deflect & Damage. Now, that power doesn't exist in 3e technically just yet, but there's no reason why it shouldn't, so I just translated it over. There's also a handy Affliction in there to showcase how she can hamper others' attacks while also knocking them over or something as an Alt-Effect (it's sorta like Prob. Control in that respect, but not quite- the main power is six points per rank!), plus a Rapid Decay, a Power Nullifier, and spontaneous combustion. That's a lot of power for one character to have (especially by spending Hero Points for various other stuff), but Wanda remains a highly potent Glass Cannon, being almost worthless without her powers, and REALLY REALLY EASY to knock out if you manage a decent shot. Typical Avengers tactics are to basically protect her at all costs and have her take out the main villain.

-Her powers have changed in description a bit over time. Stan Lee & Jack Kirby had her use "Hex Powers" to cause random events to happen- this could explain just about any ass-pulled thing. Later, she learned magic naturally with Agatha Harkness. Finally, Kurt Busiek revealed that her powers originated with Chthon, who manipulated her body upon birth to be imbued with "Chaos Magic" to allow her to become a minion of his in the future. Bendis then did his "Bendis Thing" and said "There's no such THING as Chaos Magic" (one of the more infamous bits of Disassembled), and said she was a reality warper, which allowed her to do just about anything. HOWEVER, The Children's Crusade was like "No, your Hex Powers are back". So I dunno.

-Wanda is quite powerful at PL 11, and can be even WORSE if she goes crazy and suddenly turns into a high-end Reality Warper who can Nullify the powers of all non-important mutant characters on Earth at once, but her defenses are pure garbage (PL 7!), meaning she has to hang back or be protected by tougher allies!
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Re: The Scarlet Witch

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Jabroniville wrote: Thu Mar 19, 2020 8:05 pm
-The two would engage in a nervous, timid flirtation for a long while, as neither had the confidence to speak of their impossible bond, and would wilt if things got too obvious. The Vision felt unworthy of her (being an artificial man), Quicksilver got pissy because he considered the Vision a "toaster", and Wanda was her usual self, but finally... love prevailed. The two formed a partnership to most of the Avengers' support, and even got MARRIED in 1975!
Can you imagine a relationship taking this long to develop in today's comics environment? It would never make it through multiple crossovers, mega-events, writer changes and editorial edicts.
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Wanda suffers from a bad case of Donna Troy syndrome where every writer feels the need to put their own spin on her. I remember how pissed I was when Bendis came in and undid all of the work Busiek had done her. And why? Because he needed someone to be the plot device for Disassembled and House of M, so he twisted Wanda into that plot device. Because that's just the kind of writer Bendis is.

If I was going to fix Wanda, I'd likely go back to the notion that Chthon has been screwing with her in the hopes of trying to get free, possibly by employing Nightmare to make everyone doubt themselves. I'd then just cut through all of the clutter and go with the following:

- Wanda and Pietro are Magneto's children. The more recent origin change was Chthon fucking with them.
- Wanda's mutant power has always been the power to tap into Magic. Many mutants gain the ability to tap into some extra-dimensional force, Wanda's mutant power was the ability to tap into magic. It came off as random effects because she didn't know how to control it. She's basically the Marvel version of a D&D Sorcerer, with a power that leans towards Wild Magic unless she exercises control to focus it.
- Wanda and the Vision will reconcile since so much of what's happened to keep them apart was all outside influences, because they're honestly stronger together. Much like Nightwing and Starfire, that pair belongs together.
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Re: Jab’s Builds! (Ultron! The Vision! Nadia Van Dyne! Jocasta!)

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Ares wrote: Thu Mar 19, 2020 9:41 pm Wanda suffers from a bad case of Donna Troy syndrome where every writer feels the need to put their own spin on her. I remember how pissed I was when Bendis came in and undid all of the work Busiek had done her. And why? Because he needed someone to be the plot device for Disassembled and House of M, so he twisted Wanda into that plot device. Because that's just the kind of writer Bendis is.

If I was going to fix Wanda, I'd likely go back to the notion that Chthon has been screwing with her in the hopes of trying to get free, possibly by employing Nightmare to make everyone doubt themselves. I'd then just cut through all of the clutter and go with the following:

- Wanda and Pietro are Magneto's children. The more recent origin change was Chthon fucking with them.
- Wanda's mutant power has always been the power to tap into Magic. Many mutants gain the ability to tap into some extra-dimensional force, Wanda's mutant power was the ability to tap into magic. It came off as random effects because she didn't know how to control it. She's basically the Marvel version of a D&D Sorcerer, with a power that leans towards Wild Magic unless she exercises control to focus it.
- Wanda and the Vision will reconcile since so much of what's happened to keep them apart was all outside influences, because they're honestly stronger together. Much like Nightwing and Starfire, that pair belongs together.
A great way of looking at Wanda's power!
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