Heavy Hitters and Skillmonkeys (Monster Girl, Robot)
Re: Marvel and DC Heavy Hitters (PL 18 Darkseid)
I love what you did with Aquaman and Darkseid!! Both always seemed more powerful and stronger than what the official builds showed.
I would love to see your builds of Donna Troy, Superwoman (Earth-3 evil Diana), Ultraman (evil superman) and Night Girl[ who was totally left out of the last RPG.
I would love to see your builds of Donna Troy, Superwoman (Earth-3 evil Diana), Ultraman (evil superman) and Night Girl[ who was totally left out of the last RPG.
Re: Marvel and DC Heavy Hitters (PL 18 Darkseid)
Thank you so much. I'm glad to see that you share my perspective. I will do these builds after Doomsday. I guess Donna will be a PL 13-14, since she is kind of a younger and less experienced version of Wonder Woman. Evil twins should differ by skills and advantages I believe. I would expect Ultraman to have All-out Attack and a really high Intimidate for example. I must do a little bit of research for these guys.Goldar wrote: ↑Sun Jun 05, 2022 12:16 am I love what you did with Aquaman and Darkseid!! Both always seemed more powerful and stronger than what the official builds showed.
I would love to see your builds of Donna Troy, Superwoman (Earth-3 evil Diana), Ultraman (evil superman) and Night Girl[ who was totally left out of the last RPG.
Re: Marvel and DC Heavy Hitters
Doomsday PL 16 (292)
Strength 21 Stamina 20 Fighting 9
Agility 2 Dexterity 2
Intellect -2 Awareness 1 Presence -2
Powers:
Huge Size: Growth 4, Innate, Permanent (9)
Immortal: Immunity 11 (Life Support, Aging), Immortality 5, Quirk; Doesn't work if every cell is obliterated (1 day) (20)
Invulnerable: Protection 2, Impervious Toughness 15 (Stops 14 or less, 30 pp) (38)
Regeneration 5 (Every 2 rounds), Feature 1: Regrowth
Bone Spurs: Strength-based Damage 1, Improved Critical 1 (2)
Adaptive: Immunity 40 (Whatever killed him before) (40)
Super-strength: Enhanced Strength 4, Limited to Lifting (800.000 tons) (32)
Leaping 12 (16 Miles)
Groundstrike; Burst Area 2 (60 ft) on Strength Damage 16, Limited to the targets on ground.
Primal Rage: Enhanced Will 4, Limited to mental attacks (2)
Kryptonian Slayer : Detect Kryptonians 2, Extended 2, Tracking (5)
Advantages:
All-out Attack, Power Attack, Fast Grab, Improved Hold, Takedown
Fearless, Great Endurance, Diehard, Improved Initiative 2, Withstand Damage 1 (+2 Toughness, -2 Dodge/Parry), Ultimate Effort 2 (Strength Checks, Toughness Checks)
Improved Critical 1 (Bone Spurs)
Skills: 34 ranks
Acrobatics
Athletics 1/22
Close Combat: Unarmed
Deception
Expertise:
Expertise:
Insight
Intimidation 20/20
Investigation
Perception 7/8
Persuasion
Ranged Combat: Throwing 6/8
Sleight of Hand
Stealth
Technology
Treatment
Vehicles
Defenses:
Dodge 7 Parry 9 Toughness 22
Fortitude 20 Will 8 (12 against mental powers)
Offense:
Initiative 10
Unarmed 10, Damage 22
Throwing 8, Damage 21
Abilities 102 + Defenses 12 + Powers 148 + Advantages 13 + Skills 17 = 292 pp
Complications:
Motivation(Destruction): Doomsday exist only to destroy.
Hatred: Doomsday hates all things Kryptonian and can sense Kryptonian life-forms due to the nature of its origins.
Disability: Doomsday is unable to speak.
Doomsday is another villain who can fight JL alone. His physical might is equal to that of Darkseid but he lacks his combat training. However, his regeneration makes up for his reckless fighting style. He is clearly stronger and more durable than Superman. Clark Kent can defeat him only with hero points and some lucky rolls. His defensive powers make him really expensive for a brute fighter. I raised his Immunity to 40 ranks because he, at some point in his career, is supposed to be immune to punches from superhumans. Overall Doomsday is Tarrasque of his setting, a walking engine of destruction nearly impossible to kill.
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Re: Marvel and DC Heavy Hitters (PL 18 Darkseid)
Let me know if, in your research, you actually find a version of Donna Troy that exceeds PL 11. Most versions of Donna wouldn't qualify as a Heavy Hitter.
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Re: Marvel and DC Heavy Hitters
Okay, that is not what I would consider a limitation worth -1 per rank.
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Re: Marvel and DC Heavy Hitters (PL 18 Darkseid)
What PL was Donna in the Official Build? Wasn't it PL 13?
And Hamos does their own take on these characters with a focus on higher levels as they see what matches the characters.
I love these higher stats and cannot to see more!
Re: Marvel and DC Heavy Hitters (PL 18 Darkseid)
Yep. She was a PL 13 in the official build, and I laughed at that, too. Harnos is free to do whatever. I've just read too many Teen Titan comics from too many eras.Goldar wrote: ↑Mon Jun 06, 2022 2:03 amWhat PL was Donna in the Official Build? Wasn't it PL 13?
And Hamos does their own take on these characters with a focus on higher levels as they see what matches the characters.
I love these higher stats and cannot to see more!
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Re: Marvel and DC Heavy Hitters (PL 18 Darkseid)
Donna is supposed to be just a tad under Wonder Woman in strength.Ken wrote: ↑Mon Jun 06, 2022 7:37 amYep. She was a PL 13 in the official build, and I laughed at that, too. Harnos is free to do whatever. I've just read too many Teen Titan comics from too many eras.
The comics have not always been kind to Diana as far as strength either, often not showing her as the strongest DC woman.
This is true for so many characters---there are a number of Marvel ones---which is why I love Hamos' idea for Heavy Hitter Stats.
Re: Marvel and DC Heavy Hitters
Yeah, I think you are right. So I edited it to a 1 pp Quirk.
Re: Marvel and DC Heavy Hitters (PL 18 Darkseid, PL 17 Doomsday)
Let's start with Ultraman
Ultraman PL 15 (367)
Strength 20 Stamina 17 Fighting 10
Agility 4 Dexterity 3
Intellect 5 Awareness 2 Presence 5
Powers:
Ultra Durable: Protection 3, Impervious Toughness 12 (Stops 11 or less damage, 2 pp per rank) (27)
Ultra-strength: Enhanced Strength 4, Limited to Lifting (400.000 Tons) (5)
Feature 1: (Wins the opposed strength-checks when in a tie)
Beyon Human Needs: Immunity 11 (Life Support, Aging) (11)
Ultra-reflexes: Quickness 9, Enhanced Advantages: Improved Initiative 5, Evasion (15)
Faster Than Anything Made in Anti-Earth: Flight 18, Subtle (500.000 MPH) [37 pp array] (40)
Ultra-senses: Extended Vision 3, Infravision, Ultravision, Vision Penetrates Concealment; Limited: Can't see through lead, Microscopic Vision 4
Extended Hearing 3, Ultra-hearing (15)
Advantages:
Accurate Attack, All-out Attack, Benefit 7 (Ruler of his Earth), Diehard, Extraordinary Effort,Evasion, Improved Initiative 4, Great Endurance, Move-by Action, Power Attack, Ranged Attack 3, Startle, Takedown, Withstand Damage 1 (+2 Toughness, -2 Dodge/Parry), Ultimate Effort 2 (Strength checks, Toughness saves)
Skills: 58 ranks
Acrobatics 1/5
Athletics 1/21
Close Combat:
Deception 4/10
Expertise: Astronaut 2/7
Expertise: Science 2/7
Expertise: Crime Boss 6/11
Insight 10/12
Intimidation 13/18
Investigation
Perception 6/9
Persuasion 9/14
Ranged Combat: Throwing 2/8
Sleight of Hand
Stealth
Technology 2/7
Treatment
Vehicles
Defenses:
Dodge 10 Parry 10 Toughness 20 (Impervious to 11 or less)
Fortitude 17 Will 10
Offense:
Initiative 20
Unarmed 10, Damage 20
Heat Vision 10, Damage 16
Throwing 8, Damage 20
Abilities 132 +Defenses 14 + Powers 169 + Advantages 22 + Skills 29 = 366 pp
Complications:
Power Loss: Ultraman loses his powers without regular exposure to anti-kryptonite. He keeps pellets of the substance in the compartments of his costume to prevent his strength from waning.
Vulnerability: Ultraman is vulnerable to magic. All the magical effects targeting him has 2 more effect rank against him. His Toughness
is not Impervious against magical attacks.
Relationships: Ultraman has a love/hate marriage with Superwoman (who loathes him) and a rivalry with Owlman.
Secret: The antimatter Clark Kent has committed personally shameful acts which he fears coming to light; Ultraman tolerates Owlman on the Crime Syndicate Team because of threatened internet exposure.
Ultraman's powers are same, so most of the difference is coming from skills and advantages naturally. He is not as accurate as a brawler, because Superman had to fight the same enemies many more times while Ultraman simply killed them. Despite being one PL lower than Superman, he can level the playing field with All-out Attack and Startle. He is not "holding back" and he should be more used to dirty fighting. His awareness is lower than Superman because his mind isn't as stable but he still must be iron willed to rule his earth and withstand mental attacks. Ultraman's people skills are a little bit higher because of his rulership, Intimidate gets a significant boost, as a dictator he loves vulgar displays of power.
Also I named his powers ultra ..., it is dumb but couldn't resist the urge.
Ultraman PL 15 (367)
Strength 20 Stamina 17 Fighting 10
Agility 4 Dexterity 3
Intellect 5 Awareness 2 Presence 5
Powers:
Ultra Durable: Protection 3, Impervious Toughness 12 (Stops 11 or less damage, 2 pp per rank) (27)
Ultra-strength: Enhanced Strength 4, Limited to Lifting (400.000 Tons) (5)
Feature 1: (Wins the opposed strength-checks when in a tie)
Beyon Human Needs: Immunity 11 (Life Support, Aging) (11)
Ultra-reflexes: Quickness 9, Enhanced Advantages: Improved Initiative 5, Evasion (15)
Faster Than Anything Made in Anti-Earth: Flight 18, Subtle (500.000 MPH) [37 pp array] (40)
- AE: Space Travel 1
- AE: Speed 15 (64.000 MPH), Quickness 6 (Stacks with Quickness 9)
- AE: Flight 15 (64.000 MPH), Quickness 6 (Stacks with Quickness 9)
- Wide Beam: Close Ranged Damage 15, Cone Area 2 (120 ft)
- Freeze Breath: Cone Area 2 (120 ft) Affliction 15 (Resisted by Dodge and Overcome by Fortitude; Impaired Toughness and Dazed, Disabled Toughness and Stunned, Paralyzed)
- Groundstrike: Burst Area 2 (60 ft) Affliction 15 (Resisted by Dodge, Overcome by Fortitude; Dazed and Vulnerable, Stunned and Prone)
Extra Condition, Limited Degree, Instant Recovery, Limited to targets on the ground, linked with Close Damage 15, Burst Area 2 (60 ft), Limited to targets on the ground
- Fly Through: Line Area 3 (500 ft) on Strength Damage 15, Feature 1 (Can spend a move action do double the area)
Ultra-senses: Extended Vision 3, Infravision, Ultravision, Vision Penetrates Concealment; Limited: Can't see through lead, Microscopic Vision 4
Extended Hearing 3, Ultra-hearing (15)
Advantages:
Accurate Attack, All-out Attack, Benefit 7 (Ruler of his Earth), Diehard, Extraordinary Effort,Evasion, Improved Initiative 4, Great Endurance, Move-by Action, Power Attack, Ranged Attack 3, Startle, Takedown, Withstand Damage 1 (+2 Toughness, -2 Dodge/Parry), Ultimate Effort 2 (Strength checks, Toughness saves)
Skills: 58 ranks
Acrobatics 1/5
Athletics 1/21
Close Combat:
Deception 4/10
Expertise: Astronaut 2/7
Expertise: Science 2/7
Expertise: Crime Boss 6/11
Insight 10/12
Intimidation 13/18
Investigation
Perception 6/9
Persuasion 9/14
Ranged Combat: Throwing 2/8
Sleight of Hand
Stealth
Technology 2/7
Treatment
Vehicles
Defenses:
Dodge 10 Parry 10 Toughness 20 (Impervious to 11 or less)
Fortitude 17 Will 10
Offense:
Initiative 20
Unarmed 10, Damage 20
Heat Vision 10, Damage 16
Throwing 8, Damage 20
Abilities 132 +Defenses 14 + Powers 169 + Advantages 22 + Skills 29 = 366 pp
Complications:
Power Loss: Ultraman loses his powers without regular exposure to anti-kryptonite. He keeps pellets of the substance in the compartments of his costume to prevent his strength from waning.
Vulnerability: Ultraman is vulnerable to magic. All the magical effects targeting him has 2 more effect rank against him. His Toughness
is not Impervious against magical attacks.
Relationships: Ultraman has a love/hate marriage with Superwoman (who loathes him) and a rivalry with Owlman.
Secret: The antimatter Clark Kent has committed personally shameful acts which he fears coming to light; Ultraman tolerates Owlman on the Crime Syndicate Team because of threatened internet exposure.
Ultraman's powers are same, so most of the difference is coming from skills and advantages naturally. He is not as accurate as a brawler, because Superman had to fight the same enemies many more times while Ultraman simply killed them. Despite being one PL lower than Superman, he can level the playing field with All-out Attack and Startle. He is not "holding back" and he should be more used to dirty fighting. His awareness is lower than Superman because his mind isn't as stable but he still must be iron willed to rule his earth and withstand mental attacks. Ultraman's people skills are a little bit higher because of his rulership, Intimidate gets a significant boost, as a dictator he loves vulgar displays of power.
Also I named his powers ultra ..., it is dumb but couldn't resist the urge.
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Re: Marvel and DC Heavy Hitters (PL 18 Darkseid, PL 17 Doomsday, Ultraman)
Secret: The antimatter Clark Kent has committed personally shameful acts which he fears coming to light; Ultraman tolerates Owlman on the Crime Syndicate Team because of threatened internet exposure.
See now this is intriguing a being so powerful he should fear nothing and not give a whoopety doo about what others think. and yet hes somehow committed acts so heinous that he fears them getting out because they would destroy him in some fashion
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Re: Marvel and DC Heavy Hitters (PL 18 Darkseid, PL 17 Doomsday, Ultraman)
I guess it must be on par with pedophilia or abusing a corpse.catsi563 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 06, 2022 6:48 pmSecret: The antimatter Clark Kent has committed personally shameful acts which he fears coming to light; Ultraman tolerates Owlman on the Crime Syndicate Team because of threatened internet exposure.
See now this is intriguing a being so powerful he should fear nothing and not give a whoopety doo about what others think. and yet hes somehow committed acts so heinous that he fears them getting out because they would destroy him in some fashion
Re: Marvel and DC Heavy Hitters (PL 18 Darkseid, PL 17 Doomsday, Ultraman)
See, that is the intriguing part for me, lol....just what could it be that he did???!?catsi563 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 06, 2022 6:48 pmSecret: The antimatter Clark Kent has committed personally shameful acts which he fears coming to light; Ultraman tolerates Owlman on the Crime Syndicate Team because of threatened internet exposure.
See now this is intriguing a being so powerful he should fear nothing and not give a whoopety doo about what others think. and yet hes somehow committed acts so heinous that he fears them getting out because they would destroy him in some fashion
Re: Marvel and DC Heavy Hitters (PL 18 Darkseid, PL 17 Doomsday, Ultraman)
Oh no! Say it ain't so!!Harnos wrote: ↑Mon Jun 06, 2022 7:02 pmI guess it must be on par with pedophilia or abusing a corpse.catsi563 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 06, 2022 6:48 pmSecret: The antimatter Clark Kent has committed personally shameful acts which he fears coming to light; Ultraman tolerates Owlman on the Crime Syndicate Team because of threatened internet exposure.
See now this is intriguing a being so powerful he should fear nothing and not give a whoopety doo about what others think. and yet hes somehow committed acts so heinous that he fears them getting out because they would destroy him in some fashion
Re: Marvel and DC Heavy Hitters (PL 18 Darkseid, PL 17 Doomsday, Ultraman)
Very nice Ultraman and pic too!
I also see it that he would have alternating qualities with Superman that slightly shift their skills/advantages.
But since Ultraman does not hold back like Supes (all-out attack) wouldn't that make him more dangerous?
I also like the usage of "Ultra" abilities, 'cause that's what they are and what he calls them too!
I also see it that he would have alternating qualities with Superman that slightly shift their skills/advantages.
But since Ultraman does not hold back like Supes (all-out attack) wouldn't that make him more dangerous?
I also like the usage of "Ultra" abilities, 'cause that's what they are and what he calls them too!